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joke aside.. please let seju have some sex, she is already on her limit.. abstaining for too long... and wet dreaming like that... XD it's a pity that such luscious body like that doesn't get what it deserves. (and why when it's with seju, it's always 2 fingers... while sungji....)
Vanbun, best comment ever. This gorgeous woman deserves better haha
I'm also waiting for Nora's analysis. I don't know how all this is relevant right now.
Personally, i can't tell if this is good or bad for seju. the flashbacks were great, and it's so good to see them together. I don't know know if suminxsungji will beat that chemistry, love and MEMORY, but if they do, it will take a bloody hell of time.
While the flashbacks were very promising, for me, the present situation is still somewhat heartbreaking when seju talks about not letting go and holding on to memories. I will take sumin's words about one day they will not be able to see each other again. She's still holding her ground and i'm gonna wait until she does otherwise. Until then.
Overall, this chapter is great. 50/50 for seju :)
so now.. the image is clearer more than ever about many many scenes that we saw before.
- Sumin did leave the room at first.. but came back and was there when Seju woke up.. why?
that's because Sumin herself suffered from PTSD.. 10 years ago.. look closely at this panel: http://imgur.com/a/thqz7 .. drunk Seju, did that remind Sumin of how it was for her back then.. alcohol and women as a coping mechanism to overcome her PTSD and the associated nightmares.. she needed someone to be next to her when she wakes up. that's why Sumin said this: http://imgur.com/a/28AjX ..
btw, the flashback in ch72 is Sumin's.
- Sumin: "I just feel that everything that happened to you is my fault"
does Sumin mean: breaking the promise of them going to the states together and getting married, the promise of trusting each other, or staying by each other's side? http://imgur.com/a/v69IY
everything happened in the past 10 years is a domino effect of breaking their promises.TRUST
- NOW, we know what the ring means.. it's a promise between the giver and receiver to trust each other and be by each other's side.. you know who keeps both rings now? it's Seju keeps them!
Foxy lady once attracted my attention to a very important panel: ch25
http://imgur.com/a/R1M8i
Seju keeps both rings, her's and Sumin's.. Seju still keeps the promises.. and as Foxy lady said, she HAS to give Sumin's ring back again. No wonder Seju made this remark in ch33: http://imgur.com/a/DAolI
she was telling Sumin: I still keep the promise you gave me during our college days. (by the way, the ring was given even before they had their first sex)
- Since most of the readers rely on the unofficial translation, I am happy by Anonymous keeping the translation consistent with regard to (jagi= darlin)
NOW, you know for sure that ch80, ch81.. Sumin was really having flashbacks.
- once more in the flashback: SUMIN'S insecurities!! and Seju said it loud and clear that all she wanted was to have Sumin by her side. http://imgur.com/a/M3vAw
I hope by now you understand why was it so devastating for Seju when she saw Sumin losing her ring and ridiculing it in ch10.. it's because Seju knew what it meant to Sumin.. and knew that it resembles promises.. and once she saw Sumin losing it.. she felt already as if they are over.
http://imgur.com/a/EpDiC
phew.. my mind is boiling..
Bravo, Nora89. Giving credit where credit is due, a lot of what you pointed out in the past has come to fruition. Foxy lady too.
Great analysis.
mpgpeg Thank you a lot.. the moment Foxy lady saw the new chapter she said:" I'm not overthinking and you are not delusional" hehehe.. for me now, the shocking plot twist will be if Sungji ended up with Sumin.. that would shock the hell out of me XD
Nora89
Haha, yes, you guys have been on point so far.
for me now, the shocking plot twist will be if Sungji ended up with Sumin.. that would shock the hell out of me XD
Same here. What was that "shocking plot twist" supposed to be anyways? Probably how Sumin got her tattoo in chapter 27? That would count as "shocking" I guess. I did not expect that when I read it at first.
correction:
Since most of the readers rely on the unofficial translation, I am happy by Anonymous keeping the translation consistent with regard to (jagi= darlin)
Seju didn't use "Jagi" but another word used between married couple "Yeobo".. however, I still stand by my opinion.. ch81 and 80, Sumin's was having flashbacks :D
Vanbun
Your heart unconsciously felt safe when seju is around. Will you acknowledge it?
2. sumin once again keeps another secret to sungji...
Good points! The secrets keep piling up. Sungji does not know much about Sumin's past.
roamsl
I don't know know if suminxsungji will beat that chemistry, love and MEMORY, but if they do, it will take a bloody hell of time.
they won't.. because they were never designed to have it.
While the flashbacks were very promising, for me, the present situation is still somewhat heartbreaking when seju talks about not letting go and holding on to memories. I will take sumin's words about one day they will not be able to see each other again. She's still holding her ground and i'm gonna wait until she does otherwise. Until then.
because Seju still have the rings.. she still keeps the promises (oaths) between them.. she still keeps her word at the hospital.. she will wait till the day she dies.. and she trusts Sumin to be by her side. Sumin knew what she meant.
roamsl
I don't know know if suminxsungji will beat that chemistry, love and MEMORY, but if they do, it will take a bloody hell of time.
they won't.. because they were never designed to have it.
While the flashbacks were very promising, for me, the present situation is still somewhat heartbreaking when seju talks about not letting go and holding on to memories. I will take sumin's words about one day they will not be able to see each other again. She's still holding her ground and i'm gonna wait until she does otherwise. Until then.
because Seju still have the rings.. she still keeps the promises (oaths) between them.. she still keeps her word at the hospital.. she will wait till the day she dies.. and she trusts Sumin to be by her side. Sumin knew what she meant.
IN SEJU I TRUST! Even if Sumin doesn't. How many more chapters before she'll realize all these.
LustGreed
IN SEJU I TRUST! Even if Sumin doesn't. How many more chapters before she'll realize all these.
yes.. keep trusting in her.. and believe me, the current pacing is well planned.. and is still justifying and connecting past to present and also current to previous panels. I was shocked when I saw the marriage thing.. because I knew it was mentioned subtly in ch33.
remember!
we still have a couple of issues.. but at least we know that Sumin and Seju are going out next chapter.. probably Sumin would notice something in her backseat XD.. there is also ch53, ch11.. the ring (Sungji's and Seju's) + Sungji's move + the father's will
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From Seju's nightmare and reaction to Sumin's advances.. Seju WILL NOT ask for sex.. or "trick" Sumin into it.. she won't allow it unless Sumin and Sungji break up. AND Seju will demand a monogamous relationship with Sumin
LustGreed
IN SEJU I TRUST! Even if Sumin doesn't. How many more chapters before she'll realize all these.
yes.. keep trusting in her.. and believe me, the current pacing is well planned.. and is still justifying and connecting past to present and also current to previous panels. I was shocked when I saw the marriage thing.. because I knew it was mentioned subtly in ch33.
remember!
we still have a couple of issues.. but at least we know that Sumin and Seju are going out next chapter.. probably Sumin would notice something in her backseat XD.. there is also ch53, ch11.. the ring (Sungji's and Seju's) + Sungji's move + the father's will
And also, I BELIEVE IN YOU NORA89 if ever you're going to make a church/cult/whatever..please count me in..looool I know I'm always on the right path whatever the outcome is..XD
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From Seju's nightmare and reaction to Sumin's advances.. Seju WILL NOT ask for sex.. or "trick" Sumin into it.. she won't allow it unless Sumin and Sungji break up. AND Seju will demand a monogamous relationship with Sumin
Both sungji and sumin demand that monogamous thing... what a pity that threesome won't be happening... what a shock! ;D
Somehow I feel sungji demand sumin to break her bonds/ties with seju too (ch 77), which I doubt sumin can do that. What sumin did right now is keeping both, while dating sungji. If the times has come for sumin to really choose between the two, which girl will she let it go?
Oh wow, so glad I slept though Nora's tease and went straight to the translation. Thanks anonymous translator and Nora for proofreading.
Artist needs to color the flower! Sumin please don't forget to put the pillow and blanket back before Sungi comes again :|. Can Seju become indifferent? No way. Recent chapters are so agonizing. Next chapter will be hospital chapter, hopefully we can see chairman die (nothing against you, chairman, it is just for the plot's sake). Lately, I keep thinking of this song when I see Seju or Sungi, one of them seriously needs to do this
Let it go, let it go
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door
Oh wow, so glad I slept though Nora's tease and went straight to the translation. Thanks anonymous translator and Nora for proofreading.
Artist needs to color the flower! Sumin please don't forget to put the pillow and blanket back before Sungi comes again :|. Can Seju become indifferent? No way. Recent chapters are so agonizing. Next chapter will be hospital chapter, hopefully we can see chairman die (nothing against you, chairman, it is just for the plot's sake). Lately, I keep thinking of this song when I see Seju or Sungi, one of them seriously needs to do this
Let it go, let it go
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door
^^I doubt Seju will..her conviction is absolute.. too deep and rooted to let go..
From Seju's nightmare and reaction to Sumin's advances.. Seju WILL NOT ask for sex.. or "trick" Sumin into it.. she won't allow it unless Sumin and Sungji break up. AND Seju will demand a monogamous relationship with Sumin
I agree. That dream tells much about seju's subconscious. She doesn't want to have sex with sumin but to make love. Lol. She wants sumin only and to be the only one for sumin
MY GOD!!.. another hint on why Sumin got reminded by Seju when she was with Ms. Choi.. ahh how didn't I see this earlier!!!
ch17 + Ch 86
http://imgur.com/a/V9zw3
remember that Sumin wanted to give Ms. Choi something for the 100th Day.. (similarity to the ring) and her reaction to it.. no wonder later on Sumin was reminded by Seju and the bartender incident.
now we are back at ch50.. dream sequence. For Sumin, Ms. Choi is somewhat a version of Seju (a CEO, similar physical appearance, wants Sumin to be by her side and that's all).. but
Sumin said: "it's different"
Ms. Choi:"what's it?"
Seju:"Sumin, sometimes it feels like you are still in love with me" (in an embrace)
Sumin:"yes, you are right"
please try to understand the significance of Ms. Choi in Sumin's life.. why is she one of the most significance ex'es.
^
Because she is a lot like Seju? Only, she loved seju more.
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LustGreed
And also, I BELIEVE IN YOU NORA89 if ever you're going to make a church/cult/whatever..please count me in..looool I know I'm always on the right path whatever the outcome is..XD
heheheh your comment cracked me up XD
Vanbun
Both sungji and sumin demand that monogamous thing... what a pity that threesome won't be happening... what a shock! ;D
hehehe.. my God, that will be wrecking to Sungji.. we have seen ch55 XD otherwise, Sumin will have to bottom WAY more than she could tolerate.
Somehow I feel sungji demand sumin to break her bonds/ties with seju too (ch 77), which I doubt sumin can do that. What sumin did right now is keeping both, while dating sungji. If the times has come for sumin to really choose between the two, which girl will she let it go?
Sungji admitted her inability to do/demand such a thing. But then that will also justify Sungji's following move.
hlama
Artist needs to color the flower!
well, they might be the same color as the wallpaper (the twigs are colored) .. did you notice that Sumin's and Seju's boobs are significantly bigger this chapter XD
Sumin please don't forget to put the pillow and blanket back before Sungi comes again :|.
hahahahah XDDDD
Can Seju become indifferent? No way. Recent chapters are so agonizing.
ah, I think Anonymous and I forgot to correct the pronoun.. Sumin meant: I still have bad dreams about "it" -> the PTSD (the abduction)
so being indifferent/numb is meant to be about the (abduction, assault) not towards each other.
Next chapter will be hospital chapter, hopefully we can see chairman die (nothing against you, chairman, it is just for the plot's sake). Lately, I keep thinking of this song when I see Seju or Sungi, one of them seriously needs to do this
even if he doesn't die.. at least they will visit the chairman together.. something they never have done before.
roamsl
I agree. That dream tells much about seju's subconscious. She doesn't want to have sex with sumin but to make love. Lol. She wants sumin only and to be the only one for sumin
EXACTLY.. she knew it and felt it in ch55.. (it means everything in every way..) the way Sumin responded, her confession and what they meant to each other.. they can't go back to being friends with benefit ever again.
I talked about the significance of the sex made in ch55.. and WHY it was not only just to break Sumin and Sungji up. (there is a feeling that Sumin gave up 10 years ago.. there is a feeling that Seju didn't feel for 10 years.. making love.. while you feel loved and safe)
Because she is a lot like Seju? Only, she loved seju more.
and she knew.. Seju is the only one who will hold her even if she is nothing but an empty shell (ironic, Seju never viewed Sumin as an empty shell.. but as drained from a love that she can't give or receive ch27)
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Just remember: Seju's reaction to arranged marriages and now in this chapter's flashback.. "I don't plan on getting married unless it's you"
while Ms. Choi told Sumin: "sorry, I can't stay single forever" ch33
Ms. Choi, wanted nothing from Sumin but to be by her side (in addition to another person, a husband)
while Seju: wanted nothing but Sumin.. to be by her side.. and NO ONE else.
dammit, I talk too much.. I thought I am an introvert, guess I'm not
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Nora89
Very good points all around. I figure quoting all of them would be redundant. XD
Something else I noticed, but you probably did too: Seju says "You don't know. That's why it's called a mistake."
Bartender reference again I assume?
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Something else I noticed, but you probably did too: Seju says "You don't know. That's why it's called a mistake."
Bartender reference again I assume?
I held my horses in this one.. because I could think of three mistakes at least.. and also I don't know who is she referring to, Sumin's mistakes or her's XD.. overthinking argghhh
dammit, I talk too much.. I thought I am an introvert, guess I'm not
You are not talking... just typing.... and some people becomes more open and talkative when they type/write, especially the introvert one.
dammit, I talk too much.. I thought I am an introvert, guess I'm not
You are not talking... just typing.... and some people becomes more open and talkative when they type/write, especially the introvert one.
today it was my graduation ceremony.. I left at the middle of it XD.. and they were drinking and stuff at 12:00, BBQ later at 3:00 p.m.. but meeeh, naah.. at 11:30 I was already at the library XD.. they should type the ceremony next time.. so I could enjoy the party too XD