Oh, and btw, alot of wdtfs readers on twitter are that group's fans and lots of them are actually taeny shippers :), teampink got alot more love from the reference to taeny, since that group is kpop most famous girlgroup.

Guys, are you perhaps not used to having any skinship with your friends either?

Guys, are you perhaps not used to having any skinship with your friends either?

Hell No, unless I want to out myself.
but yeah, this level of touchiness, weird eye contact.. strongly suggest intimacy.

Guys, are you perhaps not used to having any skinship with your friends either?

Hell No, unless I want to out myself.
but yeah, this level of touchiness, weird eye contact.. strongly suggest intimacy.

Haha. K-pop idols' skinship is pretty okay though as it shows no intention of triggering each other's sexual desire.

I thought I'd post this one too, it is up to reader's interpretation XD
http://imgur.com/a/4ySee

FYI (season 1: ep 1-27, Season 2: ep 28-55, Season 3: ep 56- 8[ ] )

....us because we're a bunch of perverts ; )

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Guys, are you perhaps not used to having any skinship with your friends either?

I rarely hold my bestfriend's hand, I only do that when I need to drag her to somewhere =))))) and I've never hugged her xD. However that's just me, it's not uncommon in Asian countries for girls to hold hands or hugging each other xD, that's why kpop girlgroup so open about skinship without any troubles with lesbian rumors =)))))))).

Kpop stars will never admit they are gay or anything xD, their society would literally kill their career

But this is question for Asian girls only: arent you girls also feel uncomfortable to keep holding your friend's hand while shopping in the mall or walk in the park? @.@

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I thought I'd post this one too, it is up to reader's interpretation XD
http://imgur.com/a/4ySee

FYI (season 1: ep 1-27, Season 2: ep 28-55, Season 3: ep 56- 8[ ] )

And Nora throws some logs into the fire..

Time to debate what everyone thinks of that last banner and the way Sumin and Seju are looking at...

LurKings

wink wink ;)

what do you think about it ?
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Es0teric

I thought I was a pervert till I saw Sungji's moves last chapter XD

I thought I'd post this one too, it is up to reader's interpretation XD
http://imgur.com/a/4ySee

FYI (season 1: ep 1-27, Season 2: ep 28-55, Season 3: ep 56- 8[ ] )

And Nora throws some logs into the fire..

Time to debate what everyone thinks of that last banner and the way Sumin and Seju are looking at...

I feel nothing when I look at the last arc's banner, for real xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

However, I noticed one thing though, the angle of Seju's face in 3 arcs' banners doesnt change, side profile and side glance =)))))), the other two, their face's angle change in each arc, especially Sumin =)))))))))))). That's all, I dont see anything else, it's just banner XDDDDDDDD

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yoonie0104

But this is question for Asian girls only: arent you girls also feel uncomfortable to keep holding your friend's hand while shopping in the mall or walk in the park? @.@

well, I'm technically Asian (looking at the map), in my culture, men would greet men by hugging and even kissing on the cheeks and so girls with girls.. but no hands holding, no too touchy or a wrong stare.. even though straight girls do some weird shit like touching each others boobs, but it is between really close friends and in a joking way. I wouldn't dare to hug a friend more than necessary. It's even weirder in Germany if you try such things.

However, I noticed one thing though, the angle of Seju's face in 3 arcs' banners doesnt change, side profile and side glance =)))))), the other two, their face's angle change in each arc, especially Sumin =))))))))))))

of course, I meant Sumin's face angle XDDDD

last edited at May 25, 2017 10:04PM

yoonie0104

But this is question for Asian girls only: arent you girls also feel uncomfortable to keep holding your friend's hand while shopping in the mall or walk in the park? @.@

well, I'm technically Asian (looking at the map), in my culture, men would greet men by hugging and even kissing on the cheeks and so girls with girls.. but no hands holding, no too touchy or a wrong stare.. even though straight girls do some weird shit like touching each others boobs, but it is between really close friends and in a joking way. I wouldn't dare to hug a friend more than necessary. It's even weirder in Germany if you try such things.

It's definitely not a western culture thing from my experiences.

Oh, since Nora posted, I noticed, arc 1 has 27 chaps, arc 2 has 28 chaps, so I guess arc 3 also has 27 to 30 chaps, right? So it will end in about 4 to 6 chaps, if the author doesn't extend it.

However, I noticed one thing though, the angle of Seju's face in 3 arcs' banners doesnt change, side profile and side glance =)))))), the other two, their face's angle change in each arc, especially Sumin =)))))))))))). That's all, I dont see anything else, it's just banner XDDDDDDDD

There is a slight change in Sejus face angle from chapter 1 to 2. She goes from a 3/4 profile to a side profile which technically means nothing and is just an artistic choice ; )

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anyway, this post just for fun xDDDDD, I found out about taeny through this clip XDDDDD, this has made news in Korea, best friend forever kinda thing =)))))))))))))))))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va5MI3Xy0nE

Such a shame, they're not real couple =)))))))), cause honestly, this is the level of a couple if they're from western countries. And I can understand why their shippers are so crazy about them, to the point of delusional xDDDDDDDD

However, I noticed one thing though, the angle of Seju's face in 3 arcs' banners doesnt change, side profile and side glance =)))))), the other two, their face's angle change in each arc, especially Sumin =)))))))))))). That's all, I dont see anything else, it's just banner XDDDDDDDD

There is a slight change in Sejus face angle from chapter 1 to 2.

Nah, not that much, still a side glance, especially compare to other two, they changed alot in each arc, and the latest arc, their faces look straight ahead of them XDDDD, but well, I am not into these banners much.

Back then, there are alot of discussion about arc 1 is about Sumin, arc 2 is about Seju xDDDD, based on the revealing of their eyes. Up till now, honestly, I dont consider it true, none of the arc is about any of characters, it's about the story's development. So well, talking about banners is just for the fun of it for me XDDDDDDDD

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However, I noticed one thing though, the angle of Seju's face in 3 arcs' banners doesnt change, side profile and side glance =)))))), the other two, their face's angle change in each arc, especially Sumin =)))))))))))). That's all, I dont see anything else, it's just banner XDDDDDDDD

There is a slight change in Sejus face angle from chapter 1 to 2. She goes from a 3/4 profile to a side profile which technically means nothing and is just an artistic choice ; )

Nah, not that much, still a side glance, especially compare to other two, they changed alot in each arc, and the latest arc, their faces look straight ahead of them XDDDD, but well, I am not into these banners much.

Back then, there are alot of discussion about arc 1 is about Sumin, arc 2 is about Seju xDDDD, based on the revealing of their eyes. Up till now, honestly, I dont consider it true, none of the arc is about any of characters, it's about the story's development. So well, talking about banners is just for the fun of it for me XDDDDDDDD

I'm just being pedantic.

My honest thought about the banner is that it's a typical dvd cover format for a drama tv show.

I think those people may have read into it too much early on lol.

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But this is question for Asian girls only: arent you girls also feel uncomfortable to keep holding your friend's hand while shopping in the mall or walk in the park? @.@

i'm a lesbian and also half-asian! yea, girls are generally touchy-feely here. my girl friends will usually kiss me or hug me when greeting all the time. it's quite normal! but it only gets uncomfortable when we start groping each other and also when we slap each other's pussy as a joke. sometimes, we'd even share the bathroom and shower with each other lmfao
it feels uncomfortable for me since well- yea... i'm gay. >< but you just learn to live with it and just enjoy it while it lasts xD

But this is question for Asian girls only: arent you girls also feel uncomfortable to keep holding your friend's hand while shopping in the mall or walk in the park? @.@

It's okay for me. But normally, I will not keep holding hands with someone for so long. Usually, we hold each other's arm instead. Like this:

yoonie0104

As far as I know, nope, they're not accepted in Korea but in wdtfs's world, I believe they've loosen a lot about this matter, just look at how Sungji bought Sumin a tie or there is gossip about SejuxSumin among employees, or entertainment news about lesbians xD. in real life in korea, even news about gay celebs is not gonna be published, cause it would cause a big chaos, they will do anything to bury it, use money or power, either way to shut those reporters up. cause they dont want troubles xD

I don't know, I was checking some K-pop female groups, my GOD !! I thought Mel-C was too gay till I stumbled to K-pop.. there is one in particular called Moonsun eating another girl member with her eyes and her gay touches all over XDDD

Oh, K-pop is the world where shipping group members is one of the tools to give fan-service. I wont be surprised if you found more fun stuff for you xD. Believe me, western groups have nothing compare to kpop groups about this xD. Group members also give this kind of actions in front of fans for fan-service :). This is one of their fandom culture, shipping thing :!

About Moonsun, yeah, this couple is mentioned alot lately, they're very touchy feely :). I dont follow them but their shippers are quite crazy about them since they are very expressive about skin ship or physical contacts :))). That's much I know of

The most famous female ship in kpop world is not moonsun though, it's taeny as in taeyeon and tiffany :). Every kpop girlgroup stans know them. Their ship is very famous. Go search them, but I doubt you would find them interesting :), since they're not like this moonsun, everything about them is more subtle and well...awkwards but they're bestfriends :))), but well, they're very famous and I tell you this, in that group's fandom, taeyeon is sumin and tiffany is seju :), they grew up together, friends for 14 years and all that jazz, just like teampink and the famous rumour about Taeyeon as sumin's muse and tiffany like pink, literally crazy about pink, aka seju's famous pink hair

However, this is sth only appearing in fandom, Nora. To go on news or actually go lesbian is another thing. It would kill their career, literally. So no, there is no way lesbian news about celebs could be published.

Isn't lezhin has admitted that taeyeon is indeed the muse of sumin somehow?

I don't know about seju though..... I don't see any resemble of seju and Tiffany.

But taeyeon and tiffany is like a sad story of one gay falling in love with a straight Christian bff Lmao...

While moonsun is the happy ending version of any ship, like they're both give romantic feeling to each other. Not only for fan service but off camera too. (But get busted several time by crazy shipper of them lmao, like fans captured all their secret date, even their agency has made petition for this couple ssasaeng (stalker) and forbid them to enter their official event, denied their membership. It's a risky move since several of them is popular fansite master.... )

Yet they've trespassed the artist privacy before by following and record both moonsun activity in their free time in the night.

the photos and videos thought has been deleted right away and become a super rare item since their fans kept it hidden. It's just like solar dressing room incident... When fans can see her wearing only black bra from mirror reflection... the video has been edited now but whatever published... will still be there...lmao

Noted: it's just the delusional image that they've created for me.. lmao

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LurKings

(this is going to be long.. even though I tried to hold back a bit .. sorry XD) sia ue is gifted for being able to give short comments, but not me.
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Unlike many, I believe they already knew their story by heart and knew the ending they wanted from early stages. I've seen it in the way they place events a bit by a bit.. and even the way they design the locations.

A very clear example of that, when you see a scene or character line being used again in a later chapters.. something like 30 chapters later. (this is very true and not an exaggeration).

take a look at the design of Seju's office that has a bedroom inside it.. the location of Sumin's house as well. (Played a part in ch13, you know that Seju did not go home and she was working late then went to Sumin's to take a shower -because Seju has a bedroom in her office so she slept there and Sumin lives near by ).. and from the very early chapters Sungji asks Sumin about the room upstairs, but only in ch77 that room was used to accommodate Seju (so they already told you in ch12 about it and used it in ch77).

-> Seju's office bedroom isn't a mere surprise in
ch55.. but was planned and designed waaaay back

This is one of the trivial examples. I have even more detailed examples if you were interested.
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The thing is, I agree they tend to do less panels by chapter by now, which is very annoying at times. But later on when you reread each 10 chapters at once, you get that their story telling is smooth. And It is a yuri after all, the fan service part of it is the normal thing and the deep messy story is ,in fact, unique to this one.
Im all for the story and if you were following this forum for a while, you know that im crazy about the details in it.. but at the same time I actually like their "fan service" too, they are very artistically done with attention to details.. you can understand how these women feel and see their passion or lack of it.. my God, look at how she illustrates sex between Sumin ×Sungji and Suminx Seju (both couples, before and after the cheating).. even the way Sumin and Seju kiss is different from Sumin and Sungji.. (she puts emphasis on her characters' individualism even in that aspect)
A lot of readers were annoyed by the fact that this chapter will contain a sex scene before it came out, and I was like: yeah bring it on, lets see how both girls feel about it.. specially Sumin who brings her emotions to bed. (I honestly had a smirk as Sumin decided to pick Seju up from work)
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about the banners, I'm aware of my over analysis tendencies -that's why I'm a researcher XDD- but I do believe that they have some truth in them about how the arc goes.
and honestly, I believe TG showed us the ending implicitly multiple times.. and when the time comes, everything will fall in place.

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LurKings

(this is going to be long.. even though I tried to hold back a bit .. sorry XD) sia ue is gifted for being able to give short comments, but not me.
...............................
Unlike many, I believe they already knew their story by heart and knew the ending they wanted from early stages. I've seen it in the way they place events a bit by a bit.. and even the way they design the locations.

A very clear example of that, when you see a scene or character line being used again in a later chapters.. something like 30 chapters later. (this is very true and not an exaggeration).

take a look at the design of Seju's office that has a bedroom inside it.. the location of Sumin's house as well. (Played a part in ch13, you know that Seju did not go home and she was working late then went to Sumin's to take a shower -because Seju has a bedroom in her office so she slept there and Sumin lives near by ).. and from the very early chapters Sungji asks Sumin about the room upstairs, but only in ch77 that room was used to accommodate Seju (so they already told you in ch12 about it and used it in ch77).

-> Seju's office bedroom isn't a mere surprise in
ch55.. but was planned and designed waaaay back

This is one of the trivial examples. I have even more detailed examples if you were interested.
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The thing is, I agree they tend to do less panels by chapter by now, which is very annoying at times. But later on when you reread each 10 chapters at once, you get that their story telling is smooth. And It is a yuri after all, the fan service part of it is the normal thing and the deep messy story is ,in fact, unique to this one.
Im all for the story and if you were following this forum for a while, you know that im crazy about the details in it.. but at the same time I actually like their "fan service" too, they are very artistically done with attention to details.. you can understand how these women feel and see their passion or lack of it.. my God, look at how she illustrates sex between Sumin ×Sungji and Suminx Seju (both couples, before and after the cheating).. even the way Sumin and Seju kiss is different from Sumin and Sungji.. (she puts emphasis on her characters' individualism even in that aspect)
A lot of readers were annoyed by the fact that this chapter will contain a sex scene before it came out, and I was like: yeah bring it on, lets see how both girls feel about it.. specially Sumin who brings her emotions to bed. (I honestly had a smirk as Sumin decided to pick Seju up from work)
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about the banners, I'm aware of my over analysis tendencies -that's why I'm a researcher XDD- but I do believe that they have some truth in them about how the arc goes.
and honestly, I believe TG showed us the ending implicitly multiple times.. and when the time comes, everything will fall in place.

Agree

I've said before that we will get new perspectives when reread wdtfs after its end...

And told me delulu or wishful thinking but... I really feel that if sumin end up with seju... It will definitely make senses to me... but who know?

We could be too overanalyze or have a good perception of this manhwa .... Only time can tell when wdtfs finally end

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But taeyeon and tiffany is like a sad story of one gay falling in love with a straight Christian bff Lmao...

Agree. Such a shame they're not a real couple, they're so close though :). I like them more than moonsun, probably because they're more subtle, not expressive like moonsun but I can see they're very close by actions and gestures so I like it more =)))))). I've kept an eye on them lately :)

Isn't lezhin has admitted that taeyeon is indeed the muse of sumin somehow?

Oh, when? I thought it's just rumor?

I don't know about seju though..... I don't see any resemble of seju and Tiffany.

Uhm, tbh, it's hard to find a person who resembles Seju. Seju has this kind of look which is a little bit evil, sharp, sexy and flirty. Sumin is easier, just find someone who look cute and cool at the same time, Sungji is even way easier, just dye your hair blonde and being uptight =))))).

But if tiffany dye her hair light pink, maybe it will be easier to imagine =))))))), pardon my perverted side, but tiffany has physical assets that Seju has =))))). believe me, I check when they said tiffany looks like seju =))))))

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about the banners, I'm aware of my over analysis tendencies -that's why I'm a researcher XDD- but I do believe that they have some truth in them about how the arc goes.
and honestly, I believe TG showed us the ending implicitly multiple times.. and when the time comes, everything will fall in place.

Nora, I dont rule out the possibility of maybe there is relation between the arc and its banner but honestly, all the previous discussions about banner were quite far-fetched =)))))))). I dont agree arc 1 is about Sumin, arc 2 is about Seju xDDDDDD.

I dont give it much thoughts but the most acceptable analysis about banners would be this:
- 1st arc: about SuminxSungji started to know and got close to each other while Seju was still a sex partner, that's why we had SuminxSungji turn to each other but didnt look at each other while Seju clinged to Sumin
-2nd arc: SuminxSungji was dating and Seju is just an outsider so we had SuminxSungji face each other while Sumin looked at Sungji and Sungji looked at Sumin, Seju still clinged to Sumin but Sumin had turned a little further away from Seju than 1st arc's banner, just like their relationship in arc 2
However if this kind of explaination is put to the final arc, then honestly, it's not quite true between the banner and arc 3's deveplopment =)))))).

Let's just look at the banners and enjoy their beautiful arts =)))))

I stand by the fact Seju has most constant gesture in each banner =))))), Sumin and Sungji changed a lot, especially in last banner compare to 2nd arc =))))))

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I like the fact that Team Gaji have pretty much said that the story will be different depending on whom you empathize with, our discussions on here pretty much show that.