Haizza, lzz, I honestly sincerely desperately begged you to not skip the better part of Seju and not always always see her action as a devil pretty face

^About Nami - I don't mind her wanting to have sex with Seju because they're all adults and they know when to say "no". The question is - will the other part listen? Because Seju seems to be deaf.

You think Nammi's motive in this scene is a good intention? She was using SuminxSeju's situation and Seju's weakness to be able to sleep with Seju once, for crying out loud!!!!!!
Yes, I wont say she didn't want their complicated relationship to end. I wont say she didnt care for Sumin but that scene, Nammi's intention was to push Seju to sleep with her because she wanted it, she wanted to sleep with her once. Yes, she wanted the situation to end but she used a way that is benefit for her, that she gained sth from it. She's using the situation and Seju to get what she wanted and if you don't see it then well, I can't say anything anymore

Do you know why Seju agreed with Nammi to sleep with her? If you know, then I cant see why you said this? Cause Seju wants Nammi to shut up and let her be (aka still stick with Sumin and wait for her). There wont be anything changed after that sleep, only Nammi let Seju be with her complicated relationship, that's their condition from that sex. Nammi has good intention? I highly doubt that

Also, Nami pushing Sumin and Sungji together was for a good thing while Seju pushing them together was part of her game in which Sumin was supposed to end up hurt at her doorstep again because Sumin is responsive and shows emotion only when she's:
a) happy
b) in pain
c) angry
Since Seju can't make her happy, she's using b) and c) to get what she want.

I wont go over and over and over and over again about back then Seju thought that's the only way Sumin could come back to her, even in angry, in hatred, even to use her as a rebound girl for that.

Later in the story, when Nami told Sumin Seju is getting married, she did that to make Sumin question herself and see if she's finally able to let go. She wasn't. Not yet. And Seju used it. Sumin needed Sungji to dump her to finally let go and if Seju wasn't attacked and her bro didn't beg for Sumin to get Seju with her, she'd be living a happy life with Sungji already, away from Seju.

Which part of Seju using the fact that Nammi told Sumin about Seju getting married? And how the effing hell can Seju know that Nammi told Sumin about that? And how did Seju know Sumin is questioning herself and see if she's finally let go but she wasn't, not yet? To be able to effing use it? You know it because you're a reader, how the hell would Seju know all of the effing thing in Sumin's head or what happening in the entire story? How the heck did she know Sumin had a phone call with Nammi to question herself again and decide to stop seeing Seju once and for all? SEJU DIDN"T KNOW ALL OF THIS!!!!!!!! How can she use all of this situation when she didnt even aware of it? God damn it, even the bro begging is not even Seju's doing, she didnt even tell about Sumin about herself being in danger to beg for her to stay, dont you see?

My point is, and I quote Seju in whatever chap when she talked with Sumin when Sumin decided to end things once and for all "Just date, do whatever you want", "What if I came back to you again?" "Then just come back to me!!!"
Do you know what can be said about this scene. Seju will let Sumin do whatever she wants, she only needs Sumin to come back to her at the end of the day. She only needs that and Sumin's action of ending things with Seju was a super big reason that push Seju to trick her to cheat. Remember, Seju didnt know Sumin is gonna end things with her, she didnt know she is gonna have to ask for one last favor. Yes she's gonna do sth evil to Sungji, to intimidate Sungji but she is not using any kind of situation, she didn't effing know what's going on around her to be able to use it to make Sumin come back

If Seju read Sumin so well then why did she cheat on her? Where was she when Sumin needed comfort?

Put yourself in Seju's shoes and grew up without love and there is only one person that loves you, would you feel insecure about losing that person? Now that person even blamed her for her parents' death. Screw it, I wont go over and over about it again. Your pov about Seju is too bad to revive, anyway

The only thing she gets with Sumin is sex. Even "healing her from flu" was all about sex.

Yeah, because that's the only thing Sumin offers Seju? right? And Seju thinks she didn't have the right to ask for more? Out of fear Sumin wont come back? Right?

Sungji on the other hand, knows when Sumin needs simple comfort and when she can screw up with her.

I thought Sungji ran up to Dawoon to seek for her own comfort when Sumin screwed up their relationship? And only come back because Sumin begged her to? Which part did Sungji comfort her about that?

I thought Sumin completely shut Sungji out when she's in distress? When she had problems with Seju? Only open up with Sungji after the cheating? When did Sungji comfort Sumin because she knows Sumin needs it?

The only time Sungji knows Sumin needs comfort was when Sumin screw up their own relationship but Sungji refused to take Sumin back, let alone comforting her.

If my memories dont fail me, other times, it's all Sungji who wants Sumin to do this or that for their relationship? Like when she wanted to make their relationship public? Or when Sumin refused to make things go further than kissing in the movie room, hence Sungji got mad and refused to kiss goodbye, making Sumin to run to her hometown the next day?

So when did Sungji comfort Sumin, knowing that she needs comfort? When did she screw up with her when she knows she can? Or because it's your own instinct, your own feeling to acknowlegde it?

This is really one last time I debate with you about Seju being this or that.

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since we were talking about the hot stuff, did you notice that Seju is into face/body licking much !! ch10 +ch21 (face licking), ch74 (shoulder licking).. adorable !!
-> no wonder she taught Sumin how to savour the taste of black coffee

You have a weird connection between two things, Nora =))))))))))))). And who is this in your ava?

yoonie0104

I disagree with you on why Seju played along with Nammi, Nammi saw their relationship as nothing than lousy sex and meaningless.. but Seju let her try it.. see if sex is all what Seju seeks from being in that what Nammi called obsession, greed and meaningless.

Izz

Which part of Seju using the fact that Nammi told Sumin about Seju getting married? And how the effing hell can Seju know that Nammi told Sumin about that?

Seju told Sumin before Nammi told Sumin (ch33 and ch35) !.. and Seju in fact assured Sumin about it the moment she got jealous and angry.
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I wonder tho, which one comes first, the opinion or the scene (context) ?
I mean how can you build the opinion that Seju used her family marriage set up in the giant plan to manipulate Sumin through Nammi when you already know that Seju told Sumin first !!?

The only thing she gets with Sumin is sex. Even "healing her from flu" was all about sex.

Yeah, because that's the only thing Sumin offers Seju? right? And Seju thinks she didn't have the right to ask for more? Out of fear Sumin wont come back? Right?

we don't even know who initiated that sex at all XD !
but wait! isn't Sumin the type that goes: oh my parents died, spread your legs so I can wipe my tears Ms. Choi!!.. I just broke up, keep me busy !.. (every ttttttiiiimmmmmeeee).. with Seju or with whatever girl she has !.. no wait! Sumin dated a high schooler when she was over 24 years old.
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since we were talking about the hot stuff, did you notice that Seju is into face/body licking much !! ch10 +ch21 (face licking), ch74 (shoulder licking).. adorable !!
-> no wonder she taught Sumin how to savour the taste of black coffee

You have a weird connection between two things, Nora =))))))))))))). And who is this in your ava?

ah the avatar is a cool fan cartoon of taeyeon (I only thought its cool but I dont know the artist much)
you can find both here: http://imgur.com/a/vpIzT

yoonie0104

I disagree with you on why Seju played along with Nammi, Nammi saw their relationship as nothing than lousy sex and meaningless.. but Seju let her try it.. see if sex is all what Seju seeks from being in that what Nammi called obsession, greed and meaningless.

For whatever reason Seju accepted to sleep with Nammi, it wouldn't and never stop her from keeping doing what she did with Sumin after that. That I can be sure for 10000%. Nammi knew that, that's why she said "For a little while, just forget about the midget....." (not forget once and for all, just for a little while). So, to me, Nammi didn't do it to break whatever it is between SuminxSeju, she did it for her own gain xD

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yoonie0104

YUP, the ending result, Seju had a model on top of her, in a hotel room wanting her.. while Sumin in the office fingering another girl .. but NO.. Seju remained true to her feelings.
if there is anyone who knows that sex is more than just physical act, it is in fact Seju. Not a virgin who kept pushing her Boss to sleep with her right after they started dating!

Funny, I know some people who sound to be disappointed that Seju didn't sleep with Nammi.. like they actually want her to do worse things so they could hate her more even if she doesn't want to do them XD

last edited at May 22, 2017 10:52PM

since we were talking about the hot stuff, did you notice that Seju is into face/body licking much !! ch10 +ch21 (face licking), ch74 (shoulder licking).. adorable !!
-> no wonder she taught Sumin how to savour the taste of black coffee

You have a weird connection between two things, Nora =))))))))))))). And who is this in your ava?

ah the avatar is a cool fan cartoon of taeyeon (I only thought its cool but I dont know the artist much)
you can find both here: http://imgur.com/a/vpIzT

Oh, so I guess you know about the rumor going around about the connection between Sumin and taeyeon then? xDDDD

If we had a live action movie about wdtfs, Taeyeon is definitely not a bad candidate =))))))

Oh, so I guess you know about the rumor going around about the connection between Sumin and taeyeon then? xDDDD
If we had a live action movie about wdtfs, Taeyeon is definitely not a bad candidate =))))))

heard about it, but I have no clue about the K-pop or the artist .. but yeah, I don't think Korean actresses would accept such roles. (even tho I watched the Handmaiden movie, I think WDTFS is just too much for actresses )

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yoonie0104

YUP, the ending result, Seju had a model on top of her, in a hotel room wanting her.. while Sumin in the office fingering another girl .. but NO.. Seju remained true to her feelings.

Seju's loyalty is proven alot of times already. BUT that means she wont get laiddddddddddddd xD. So sad for her

Nah, Sumin didnt know xD, she's just having sex with her girlfriend. That's not wrong and totally normal. Can't blame her xD, they're in the middle of passionate love after all xD.

However what she did after she found out about Seju and Nammi was unacceptable. That I agree with

if there is anyone who knows that sex is more than just physical act, it is in fact Seju. Not a virgin who kept pushing her Boss to sleep with her right after they started dating!

Sungji isn't innocent as she seems to be right? xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Oh, so I guess you know about the rumor going around about the connection between Sumin and taeyeon then? xDDDD
If we had a live action movie about wdtfs, Taeyeon is definitely not a bad candidate =))))))

heard about it, but I have no clue about the K-pop or the artist .. but yeah, I don't think Korean actresses would accept such roles. (even tho I watched the Handmaiden movie, I think WDTFS is just too much for actresses )

Nah, it's just a fun talk, no way this story can make it to live action film xD, an amine is more possible

Does your girlfriend get jeslous of the way you talk about Seju Nora89 ; P

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Does your girlfriend get jeslous of the way you talk about Seju Nora89 ; P

No, because of the way I treat her :D

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yoonie0104

Seju's loyalty is proven alot of times already. BUT that means she wont get laiddddddddddddd xD. So sad for her

She will be.. very soon! I bet it will be the hottest scene that Gaji will ever illustrate XD

Funny, I know some people who sound to be disappointed that Seju didn't sleep with Nammi.. like they actually want her to do worse things so they could hate her more even if she doesn't want to do them XD

You should've seen when people actually were happy when Seju used a low trick that is sex and cheating when she asked for one last favor from Sumin xD. They literally jumped with joy =))))))))))). Cause they now had more things to hate on her and blame her xDDDDD, and the most important is, with that, they have the right to say Sungji deserves Sumin more than Seju xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

yoonie0104

Seju's loyalty is proven alot of times already. BUT that means she wont get laiddddddddddddd xD. So sad for her

She will be.. very soon! I bet it will be the hottest scene that Gaji will ever illustrate XD

I hope there would be one before the story ends =)))))). I'm not sure I'm gonna read it but I want to see it happen XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. My perverted mind wants it to happen XDDDDDDDDDDDDD. Author, you give SuminxSungji fans fan-service, you should do that for Seju's fans too xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD, give us some fan-services xDDDDDDDDDD

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Once people are broken up for good who has the right to say who they can or can't sleep with. We're adults.

I'm amused you're so shocked about this lol.

It's not Nami's fault for wholeheartedly attempting to sleep with her friend's ex since this ex is way too hot to resist. Women are everywhere but this ex is just so sex appealing. How could I demand such a player like Nami to not want to do that with that ex? I don't even know how many years has it been since she started longing for sleeping with her friend's ex. Waiting for her friend and her friend's ex to have their toxic relationship broken must be too hard for her.

I'm so shock for disliking Nami. lol

What if the ulterior move of nami be friend with sumin at the beginning is to be close with seju?

For me, I always think that nami like seju not sumin. CMIIW

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What if the ulterior move of nami be friend with sumin at the beginning is to be close with seju?

For me, I always think that nami like seju not sumin. CMIIW

Nami loves Sumin. However, I'm pretty sure she never really is truly madly deeply in love with Sumin. I believe she can date any woman in the end. Let's ship her with Seju since wdtfs lacks of Seju's new lover.

What if the ulterior move of nami be friend with sumin at the beginning is to be close with seju?

For me, I always think that nami like seju not sumin. CMIIW

Nami loves Sumin. However, I'm pretty sure she never really is truly madly deeply in love with Sumin. I believe she can date any woman in the end. Let's ship her with Seju since wdtfs lacks of Seju's new lover.

I agree with the first part but I refuse to ship her with Seju, nuuuu, how can I put a loyal lover beside a sole player, nuuuu, I dont wannaaaa, she's my favorite, nuuuuu, xDDDDDDD, I'd rather have Seju alone xDDDDDDD

But why, author? For the love of God, just why is there no one else loving Seju? I still cant believe a hot woman like that only has one person loving her. So unreal xDDDDDD

I refuse to ship her with Seju, nuuuu, how can I put a loyal lover beside a sole player, nuuuu, I dont wannaaaa, she's my favorite, nuuuuu, xDDDDDDD, I'd rather have Seju alone xDDDDDDD

Lately, Seju has been shipped with Dawoon who loves Sungji, the faceless new team leader, etc. It's not so worse to ship her with Nami I'd say. Nami does play her great role in doing nothing at all but hitting on her friend's ex gf throughout the whole series. lol

But why, author? For the love of God, just why is there no one else loving Seju? I still cant believe a hot woman like that only has one person loving her. So unreal xDDDDDD

Doesn't Seju bring that upon herself? Wasn't that what Nami was bringing up that time in the conversation people here referred to earlier?

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I refuse to ship her with Seju, nuuuu, how can I put a loyal lover beside a sole player, nuuuu, I dont wannaaaa, she's my favorite, nuuuuu, xDDDDDDD, I'd rather have Seju alone xDDDDDDD

Lately, Seju has been shipped with Dawoon who loves Sungji, the faceless new team leader, etc. It's not so worse to ship her with Nami I'd say. Nami does play her great role in doing nothing at all but hitting on her friend's ex gf throughout the whole series. lol

Seju sounds like a thing, ship from here to there. I wish I could ship her to my house XDDDDDDDDDDDD

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But why, author? For the love of God, just why is there no one else loving Seju? I still cant believe a hot woman like that only has one person loving her. So unreal xDDDDDD

Doesn't Seju bring that upon herself? Wasn't that what Nami was bringing up that time in the conversation people here referred to earlier?

I know why she's alone until now xD, what I mean is someone who is at least interested in her, who flirted with her xDDDDD, who actually finds her hot and pretty. Someone who when she goes get her coffee, that person will come up to her and go "Did you know that I've just met a Victoria Secret angel today and I'm talking to her?" =))))))))))))))))))))

If we talk seriously, honestly, I would like to have a character who actually genuinely likes her, for her to realize that there are someone else who cares for her, who is there for her and just her, who helps her to open herself up, like Sungji with Sumin xDDDDD, not some half smartass half player like Nammi, who honestly didn't really genuinely like Seju, just a player who wants a one night stand.
However, it that happened, we no longer had trio for wdtfs xDDDDDDD, so that's that, just Seju's fate for being alone =)))))))))))))))))))

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Doesn't Seju bring that upon herself? Wasn't that what Nami was bringing up that time in the conversation people here referred to earlier?

I know why she's alone until now xD, what I mean is someone who is at least interested in her, who flirted with her xDDDDD, who actually finds her hot and pretty. Someone who when she goes get her coffee, that person will come up to her and go "Did you know that I've just met a Victoria Secret angel today and I'm talking to her?" =))))))))))))))))))))

If we talk seriously, honestly, I would like to have a character who actually genuinely likes her, for her to realize that there are someone else who cares for her, who is there for her and just her, who helps her to open herself up, like Sungji with Sumin xDDDDD, not some half smartass half player like Nammi, who honestly didn't really genuinely like Seju, just a player who wants a one night stand.
However, it that happened, we no longer had trio for wdtfs xDDDDDDD, so that's that, just Seju's fate for being alone =)))))))))))))))))))

You want them to conclude Seju's story is what you are saying right? Rather than just leaving it at Sungji and Sumin living happily ever after (can't say that with a straight face sorry) with no happy ending for Seju?

Just because Seju may not end up with Sumin it doesn't neccesarily mean she'll be forever alone. She's only 34.

Maybe once she finally let's go of Sumin she might meet someone else and we'll see her opening up her heart to them? I have a feeling that after the main story has concluded TG will focus on tying up loose ends with that being a possibility. Or Sungji moving on depending on the ending.

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Maybe once she finally let's go of Sumin she might meet someone else and we'll see her opening up her heart to them? I have a feeling that after the main story has concluded TG will focus on tying up loose ends with that being a possibility.

I do not want to go over this again about how the author had built Seju too desperate that now, when and only when there is someone else appears in her life and changes her life (or sth for that matter), change her way of living, she'll let go of Sumin. If not, she won't, she'll stick with Sumin till she dies. There is no maybe after SuminxSungji happily ever after, let's think about Seju's happily ever after ending, but first let Seju magically let go of her Sumin first. No, I dont think it works that way

An extraordinary example, well, easy, Sumin herself. If Sungji wont appear in her life, will she change her lifestyle? No, she wont. Will she think of changing? No, she wont. There should be a turning point in a person's life to make them change, or so they said. In Seju's case, she got it wayyy worse than Sumin, so that's that.

So, in order to make Seju herself to let go of Sumin, it's not from Sumin now has changed, she has Sungji now, she is now a better person so should Seju, she should accept that and let go, it has to sth happening to Seju's life itself, not from other people's life (Sumin's life) then tell(force) Seju to "hey, you should let go", and in Seju's case, she has to find a new happiness first for her to let go Sumin after.
Simply put, in this order:
- Find her a new happiness first
- Then let's talk about her letting go
- Full happy ending

But judging from how the author has led this story, I doubt she would bring someone to Seju, so I guess she will be alone

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