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Carm2
joined Jun 23, 2016

As for Sumin, she can have a little less screen time hahahaha.

I'm torn about it, tbh. Channeling my inner Tyrion, I have a tender spot in my heart for cripples and bastards and broken things.

Especially if they're dark-haired and have cool tats.

Fair enough...And I can't argue with that last part hahaha...But brace yourself, winter is coming.

Winter has come. (Ef GoT for sucking me back for the finale.)

Also, Kerria japonica (Sumin's tattoo) is a winter flower. My darling, flung out of snowy place.

The real war is about to begin!

Like the meaning of the flower, Sumin is waiting for spring to finally come.

Yes indeed. It usually blooms in April in Japan, and in snow-bound areas like Hokkaido it's the first color emerging amidst the encompassing whiteness. The root withstands winter, and the flower breaks into a new world. If this flower discussion doesn't come into light in the manhwa, I'm sending Team Gaji a bazillion fan mails.

Natsuki
joined Feb 5, 2015

As for Sumin, she can have a little less screen time hahahaha.

I'm torn about it, tbh. Channeling my inner Tyrion, I have a tender spot in my heart for cripples and bastards and broken things.

Especially if they're dark-haired and have cool tats.

Fair enough...And I can't argue with that last part hahaha...But brace yourself, winter is coming.

Winter has come. (Ef GoT for sucking me back for the finale.)

Also, Kerria japonica (Sumin's tattoo) is a winter flower. My darling, flung out of snowy place.

The real war is about to begin!

Like the meaning of the flower, Sumin is waiting for spring to finally come.

Yes indeed. It usually blooms in April in Japan, and in snow-bound areas like Hokkaido it's the first color emerging amidst the encompassing whiteness. The root withstands winter, and the flower breaks into a new world. If this flower discussion doesn't come into light in the manhwa, I'm sending Team Gaji a bazillion fan mails.

I like the way you described the flower. They really should since they've been giving this flower quite a lot of attention . If they don't then I'll help you with flooding team Gaji with fan mails.

joined Jun 9, 2016

for those of you who didn't know ,, there is a voice version of wdtfs that you can easily find .. each chapter is presented in a great way esp their voices .. i was very surprised first but sumin voice is very sepacial and i liked it very much ...it was lighter than i expected but it suited her very well ...as for seju and sungji both kind weird but after i read the chapters again and imagined their voice it suited them well too ...so check it out guys its really fun ,,if you cant find it their is 1 or 2 chapters already on youtube .

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Carm2
joined Jun 23, 2016

for those of you who didn't know ,, there is a voice version of wdtfs that you can easily find .. each chapter is presented in a great way esp their voices .. i was very surprised first but sumin voice is very sepacial and i liked it very much ...it was lighter than i expected but it suited her very well ...as for seju and sungji both kind weird but after i read the chapters again and imagined their voice it suited them well too ...so check it out guys its really fun ,,if you cant find it their is 1 or 2 chapters already on youtube .

I did listen to the first chapter on YT. Sleepy!Sumin had me at "Hello." But boy, do they cut at the best part of the chapter, haha. Do you know if other chapters are also available?

joined Jun 9, 2016

for those of you who didn't know ,, there is a voice version of wdtfs that you can easily find .. each chapter is presented in a great way esp their voices .. i was very surprised first but sumin voice is very sepacial and i liked it very much ...it was lighter than i expected but it suited her very well ...as for seju and sungji both kind weird but after i read the chapters again and imagined their voice it suited them well too ...so check it out guys its really fun ,,if you cant find it their is 1 or 2 chapters already on youtube .

I did listen to the first chapter on YT. Sleepy!Sumin had me at "Hello." But boy, do they cut at the best part of the chapter, haha. Do you know if other chapters are also available?

hmmm ... try and enter on the uploader's channel on YT i guess their is also ch 9 ...

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joined Mar 19, 2016

I just read this in Facebook WDTFS.

It is a messagre from Gaji, maybe could clarify us more about the story.
All credit belong to Wendy Ngik

"Hi everyone! I am Gaji, the eggplant of the Eggplant team. (Gaji means eggplant in Korean)
I am the head of the team, Gyeomji.

(You should take a rest.)
(Ok)

Somehow Season 2 ended with a conclusion that everyone was expecting.

Love triangles, a never-changing stereotype...!

Although this ending was decided before serialising, even after many script modifications, the "caught in the act" setting was never changed,
Because (we) have to take into account on how to elaborate 3 seasons' plots to "how to be caught in the act", this section was the hardest.

Now that the situation of the Sumin<->Sungji love line is very clear,
Sumin<->Sungji (Seju)
The issue of what Sumin should do to not let Sungji become Seju's, this also feels like the most important thing.

So we chose this method.

Smash brawl!
In order not to lead to an argument between Sumin and Sungji, so (we) need Seju's intervention with Sungji , this is the background scene of Season 1
But to put aside a character like Seju from the start till Season 2's ending, I wasn't thinking of this,
Using irritable lines to sprout seeds in Sungji's insecurity, no matter how you see it, one will think that the innocent Sungji will give up after a considerable amount of hesitation.

The seeds planted by Seju... is based on her sixth sense, in order not to let the two's relationship become deeper, that was the trap she set.

Because of this, in season 2, Sungji was constantly feeling insecure.
In order to try hard in believing Sumin, even though there was no obvious scenes, if (you) read season 2 closely again, you may just see a new explanation of the scene!

In season 3, the 3's position will be very different from the current story. Like previously the vague character setting, and the events about the people around them, the conflict between the 3 main characters will become Season 3's main story. Because there is still lots to say about the story, it may feel that the script is rushed. But we will be making preparations for an ending with no regrets, before coming back.

Bows

Even though there is still lots of insufficiency, regarding the readers' unwavering attention towards our manga, we are always thankful.

After (something about making WDFTS into a book) and Season 3's preparation, we will be back on 21st July with Season 3's contents."

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joined Dec 9, 2014

Well to me it sounds like they mean that Seju was there in order to create a conflict between Sumin and Sungji, without them arguing directly.
Also
"Now that the situation of the Sumin<->Sungji love line is very clear,
Sumin<->Sungji (Seju)
The issue of what Sumin should do to not let Sungji become Seju's, this also feels like the most important thing."

Probably meant Sungji do no let Sumin become Seju's. Preety much confirms TeamBlonde ending, plus we will see a new side of Sungji.
Meh

thranduilion
Carm2
joined Jun 23, 2016

Well to me it sounds like they mean that Seju was there in order to create a conflict between Sumin and Sungji, without them arguing directly.
Also
"Now that the situation of the Sumin<->Sungji love line is very clear,
Sumin<->Sungji (Seju)
The issue of what Sumin should do to not let Sungji become Seju's, this also feels like the most important thing."

Probably meant Sungji do no let Sumin become Seju's. Preety much confirms TeamBlonde ending, plus we will see a new side of Sungji.
Meh

Thank you for sharing, ShizukaAoki! Since I don't have an FB this is really informative.

MacySan Seconded. It's not a triangle if one of the characters are established merely to disturb the order. A good writer can do triangulation with only two characters if their baggage is explored (not necessarily a love interest), as Tobias Wolff said, "Two people are a triangle waiting to happen." At this point, I'm hoping for a miracle that none of Sungji-Sumin-Seju ends up with one another.

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joined Dec 9, 2014

A good writer can do triangulation with only two characters if their baggage is explored (not necessarily a love interest), as Tobias Wolff said, "Two people are a triangle waiting to happen." At this point, I'm hoping for a miracle that none of Sungji-Sumin-Seju ends up with one another.

What surprises me is that they actually admit it xD They literally say that they know couples have to have some conflict at some point (especially with Sumin's baggage) and they don't want to make Sungji x Sumin look bad, so they use Seju to be the bad guy and bring some external conflict, while at the same time keeping intact the likability of Sumin x Sungji.

It feels like Gaji is trying too hard for everyone to like their ending. It also makes all of the characters look dumb to be honest. And yes they could totally develop these two without the help of Seju. Adding her into it only takes the attention away from Sumin x Sungji.
But maybe I'm totally wrong on how I interpreted this.

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thranduilion
Carm2
joined Jun 23, 2016

MacySan

Exactly. Complication is not complexity. Sumin/Sungji can be complex without being complicated by Seju.

That, or I'm just a picky, whiny reader. :D

Natsuki
joined Feb 5, 2015

Thanks ShizukaAoki!

There are other ways to sprout some conflict between Sumin x Sungji, but they chose the love triangle route. And they, for some reason, really wanted to have that "caught in the act" scene....okay. But thank goodness that they do realise that there's still a lot of things to say in the story. Hope they'll be able to pull it off....

The issue of what Sumin should do to not let Sungji become Seju's

I wonder if they just confused the names, or it's really what's written...

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

ShizukaAoki, thanks.

Using irritable lines to sprout seeds in Sungji's insecurity, no matter how you see it, one will think that the innocent Sungji will give up after a considerable amount of hesitation.

No matter how you see it, one will get that it's all just to make the unlikable Seju get dumped after a considerable amount of Sumin's hesitation.

The seeds planted by Seju... is based on her sixth sense, in order not to let the two's relationship become deeper, that was the trap she set.

What a false sixth sense.

joined Mar 27, 2016

So they decided to constantly crap on the most interesting character and use her solely to generate drama, making the destined couple of the story 1 dimensional and boring. I'm not even some 'it has to be Seju/Sumin' person, hearing that out of them is just incredibly... deflating? After the set up was so interesting.

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joined Jun 14, 2013

SPOILERS (Maybe)

  From the get go this manga has been pretty bullshit. Making me pay and shit. like god damn, $40 is  probably what I spent to read this shit. Fuck, I don't mind spending that much if it was actually worth it, but after reading all the latest chaps, to me it's clearly not. I may and likely will continue paying to read the rest anyway cause now i'm invested, I can't go back now, those motherfuckers.
 So now here goes me me hoping and wishing for better writing in yuri, once again. The only 10/10 that can be given to this manga is the art. Like holy shit, yuri needs more of that style, hell yeah. The writing lately, though, like what the hell? Like shit, I'm not a writer but god damn they fucked up. I really wish I could change it and now i'm grieving here cause I can't and they neither can they. Even if the author tries to fix what happened in the latest chaps, the manga, in my opinion will no longer be realistic (was it ever really?) it's now become like the citrus manga (which started strong?  nah mei's kiss with male teacher was enough to tell me how that manga gonna turn out) a manga where it's really got one or two really good elements (the art) about it but other than that, that's it. Cliche, cliche, cliche. May as well be reading a lame het manga.
 So, the art for both mangas are soo  amazing but art only goes so far to truly make a manga a good worth read, shit I've read yuri manga where I can see the art doesn't compare like these but the story, yessss, the writing, ahhh, just makes it all close to perfect honestly and really hits the spot. Now it's just like oh well I guess this is better than nothing huh, at least the arts beautiful. It's bullshit cause I really liked this manga for awhile (I think?) but now how can I when I don't like how the author developed it? I read the aftermath of the author too, he/she knew they fucked up. Like fuck dude you had one amazing job that you truly fucked up imo. Just sucks. This manga had potential. Now it may as well be soft core porn, only good for looks but not if you want plot. 

Here's some examples of the best completed yuri manga: Girl Friends (my first), Cirque Arachne, Comprehensive Tovarisch (not all out but hell yeah so far), Hoshikawa Ginza District 4, Husky and Medley, Kimi Koi Limit (warning love triangle, I'm not a fan of the tag but the manga, yasss), Kimochi no Katachi, Majyo to Houki to Kurobuchi Megane, Notes From The Garden Of Lilies, Poor Poor Lips, Prism (cancelled but shit was so good, it's a shame the author turned out to be a yuri hating sadist, cough Stretch cough), Roommates, Shinigami Alice, The Flower And The Star, Unchanging Days, Yuri Yuri (ELEGY SYNDROME), and Yuri Yuri are all the my favorite completed yuri mangas on dynasty. I can probably add a whole bunch of ongoing ones that I'm really loving at the moment (if they don't fuck it up in a chap or in the end, they're always a risk) and oneshots (got so many that I love).

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joined Mar 19, 2016

Hello!!

I read on Facebook that Team Gaji sent a message where they said "You save the plaintiff resuming schedules 2 weeks back into trouble securing WDTFS series.
On August 4th, under the guise of more reliably prepared here. Thank you!"

So we have the next chapter until Auguts.

I just want to report you!!!

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Carm2
joined Jun 23, 2016

What's with all the rage towards this manga? I understand where it's coming from, but I'm sure narrative isn't why readers started reading it. Or at least that's my case.

12832548_732179150258573_3468752615206849752_n
joined Mar 19, 2016

What's with all the rage towards this manga? I understand where it's coming from, but I'm sure narrative isn't why readers started reading it. Or at least that's my case.

For me all the rage is because fans love so much one specific personage, that they cannot see a bad role of her (Seju, Sumin or Sungji).

The most of the community in spanish, people loves the story and they feel well with the last events in this story, this is possible because they love Sungji and Sumin´s couple. On the other hand, who prefer Seju and Sumin´s couple think Team Gaji is ruining the story and Seju as a main character.

In other words, this story starts to have a team´s war. I have only read comments about Teamblode or Teampink, about who is better Seju or Sungji... (For this, whom does not like one of these personages says that the story is "bullshit")

I love this story and I enjoy each chapter not matter what.
If someone does not like it , simply, do not lost your time and read another manga. (words as "bullshit" are unnecessary)

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

It would be strange too if there's no one complaining about the quality of the storyline. Seju character in the last like 8 chapters seemed unreal to me; she's kind of no longer able to read the situation, nor aware of what kind of consequences her actions would bring. She has always owned greatest amounts of both Sumin's sympathy and love. Which she might win Sumin back without fighting Sungji, yet she chose to fight in order to lose. Really support Sumin x Sungji endgame, but just want Sungji's victory to seem little cooler like she gets it because she really deserves it, not because she is the only one option left as the other party's reasoning/behavior has gone wrong like a broken robot's.

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joined Dec 9, 2014

So they decided to constantly crap on the most interesting character and use her solely to generate drama, making the destined couple of the story 1 dimensional and boring.

This is exactly how I feel. I'm just prepeared for third arc to screw Seju more and I will finally be able to be released from this manhwa xD
But who am I kidding, I'll probably stick to the end and suffer along the way. Always hoping until the end .-.

I don't think they have gone OOT tbh. There was some seeds for Seju's character to be developed like that since the first chapters. But they could also chose a different way too. It was ambivalent. But now, it's just clear (also considering Gaji's latest interview) that they want to make her the antagonist so Sumin x Sungji shines.

Now it may as well be soft core porn, only good for looks but not if you want plot.

I've been feeling like this for a while too. But, well, compared to the rest of the yuri we currently have, wdtfs is still not bad. (Citrus feels meaningless. Their story feels meaningless + SJ's way of flirting is not my taste :P)

Btw nice ava Martian. I miss Shiznat

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Natsuki
joined Feb 5, 2015

So, the next update is pushed back to 4th of August...okay.

Now it may as well be soft core porn, only good for looks but not if you want plot.

The first impression I had about this manhwa, but it turns out to be not as bad as I thought it would be. Not a fan of how the story turned out in the last couple of chapters though. They didn't have to go down that path but they did it anyway.

Btw nice ava Martian. I miss Shiznat

Thanks. Shiznat is still one of my favorite pairing haha.

Last-game-4122039
joined Mar 14, 2016

Soon we'll know what Team Gaji calls "healing story".

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Developing Seju character that much won't benefit Sumin x Sungji. As it's the final arc, Team Gaji has to focus more on the endgame couple, I guess.

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joined Dec 9, 2014

Developing Seju character that much won't benefit Sumin x Sungji. As it's the final arc, Team Gaji has to focus more on the endgame couple, I guess.

I think so too. Probably we'll see Sungji taking action vs Seju trying to screw things over type of situation. I just hope they don't screw Seju's character so much and she remains relatively fine in the end. Both mentally and physically
and no Nami x Seju ending :x

Also pretty sure introverts don't only make up 10% of the population. But Seju being an introvert has nothing to do why she is interesting. Also I believe both Sumin and Sungji are introverts as well, so this is not what makes her unique

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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Probably we'll see Sungji taking action vs Seju trying to screw things over type of situation.

If wdfts goes the same way as many dramas I've watched, then after Seju screws things up, and becomes so unlikable, she will have an amnesia. Maybe the healing is about Sumin starting a new, and Seju completely forgeting her sadistic past. If it's not that, I really can't think of another way to heal Seju. Nami? Oy, no.

Last-game-4122039
joined Mar 14, 2016

I believe that the flashback which gave people an idea that Nami might have had an unrequited love for Seju since long time ago will be used to start a twist that will make things possible for an open ended Nami x Seju.

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