I am the only one that thinks the growing dick back is the most unrealistic part of it?

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Looking East posted:

Who knows when we will get to find out what happened between Uta and Kaoru?

Has it even been confirmed that anything has happened between them off screen?

Well.

Nevri posted:

CertainPudding posted:

I don't see anything similar to a love confession, not to mention a confession directed towards Kaoru. I simply view it as if Uta was just letting it go and not keeping it to herself.

But this. Head to page 30 and 31.
U: (making sad face)
U: Kaoru-san.
U: (thought) I'm sorry.

This does NOT mean Uta has confessed. Maybe she apologized because she couldn't follow Kaoru's advice? Just saying.

Well I know this scene is up to interpretation, but honestly. The whole problem is that if Uta confessed to her sister-in-law it will turn their family life upside down. If she is rejected, they still have to live together, if she is accepted, she basically made Kaoru cheat/divorce with Reiichi and again make their family as it is right now fall apart. She doesn't want it to happen because in either situation the status quo will change and she will be feeling guilty about it. Confessing won't lead to anything good and it will be very selfish of her. And in light of all of that the person she fallen in love tells her to confess anyway. So after being comforted by her, she finds courage to do something she was avoiding all this time, confess. She pushes her warm, hugging hand, she looks determinate into her eyes. She is about to confess. Her thinking "I'm sorry" most likely refers to the fact, that by doing so she will ruin everything. She will ruin her life, Kaoru's life, Reiichi's life. Nothing will be the same again. The fact confessing is a terrible idea didn't change. But she is going to do it anyway, and so she is apologizing for deciding to being selfish despite her better judgment. "I'm sorry for doing this to you". You are right, there was no confession, because the scene of confession was cut out. There is also possibility instead of confessing with words, Uta actually kissed Kaoru which is why she is later touching her lips after finally giving up pretence. Which can also be next or additional meaning of Uta saying "I'm sorry".

Now turn to Chapter 15, Page 08. Kaoru saw some suspicious things. Who knows if it's Uta's diary (or diaries)? Just saying :v

It isn't. It is clearly shown on the next page. Uta had a bunch of books about universities with dorms, making it clear Uta plans to leave the house. That is exactly why Kaoru brings it up to her later. Hell Uta actually realizes she knows about it because of looking at her desk:
U: "... Wait a minute. Did you look at my desk?"
K: "Ah.. I'm sorry. I just happened to see a study guide lying on your desk..."

So much for re-reading those chapters looking for details, when you missed something that is blatantly mentioned in the dialogue.

At page 18 we see a slightly disturbed Uta after she knows Kaoru has checked her table. Big Sis is Watching ya. This fortifies my theory above.

No it doesn't. And she is more sad than disturbed. She wanted to leave house without anyone knowing so she wanted to keep it secret. The fact Kaoru noticed it puts Uta in very bad spot, especially after how she confessed last time, making her reason obvious and making it awkward. And that is exactly what happens. Kaoru says Uta still can stay with them, as she was until now, which surprised her, but immediately after it she puts a worried face and thanks her. She feels guilty, because Kaoru tries to act as if nothing changed, but Uta knows it won't last. Remember that until this point Uta did not try to leave house. She tried to suppress her feelings and make it work. But now that she confessed, she knows she can't stay here so she is in hurry to leave.

Also next thing you missed on the same page. Kaoru asks about charm and Uta answers she bought 1 for academic achievement. Kaoru is about to say she thought she will buy different one, most likely love charm, but she holds back and very quickly changes topic. You could say Kaoru thought that would be something that teenager her age would rather buy, but then remembered she is in love with married person so she felt it would be awkward to say and hold back, but I personally feel it was because Uta confessed. Kaoru wanted to make that innocent comment, but then remembered mid sentence she is Uta's love interest and realized how her saying it would be ultra awkward, so she stopped midway and quickly changed topic to something else, to cover her slip up. Which made her unwittingly mention the first thing that came to mind without realizing consequences of saying it. She brought looking for university because it was probably on her mind since she saw it, but forgot it will give away she was looking around Uta's room which can make Uta feel angry. And the reason I'm pretty sure Uta confessed is, because when Uta says how she doesn't want to be burden and leave the house, Kaoru only repeats that she shouldn't worry about it and she can stay. Kaoru was never against Uta living here, in fact she was perfectly fine with it and Uta knew it. There was no real reason for Uta to leave, especially in hurry. But now Uta suddenly wants to leave very fast saying she is a burden. Something had to change. Kaoru doesn't ask why she wants to leave or tell her she is not a burden. She only reminds her that she can stay. To me it clearly tells me, that Kaoru is both aware that burden Uta mentioned is her feelings for her and that the reason she is in such hurry is that she realizes that her feelings can only make Kaoru uncomfortable. Kaoru doesn't try to convince Uta to stay because Kaoru understands how complicated the situation is, but because she doesn't want to turn her back to Uta, she still at least reassured her she can still stay here despite the confession.

"Well, if THE PERSON is as ORDINARY as what I imagined..."

So "She should have fallen in love with someone MORE INTERESTING, instead of a boring person like me" is not so right. She hopes for someone as ORDINARY as her imagination, right? "Ordinary" in this context should be understood as "morally correct" instead of "normal and boring".

I already explained it to Onyx, and you get it more or less correct. It isn't as much about being boring or interesting. It is about common and uncommon scenarios. Falling for teacher in your school or for a co-worker in your work place are common (normal) scenarios. Falling for your brother's wife is not something that happens all the time, so it is very uncommon (not normal) scenario. There is no real implication about it being moral or immoral.

There's one thing that contradicts OniXX's theory and mine. If she knows about the unrequited love, why making subjunctive mood? (read: "Perhaps", "Unless" and "If"). She knows about it, why speculate?
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TL;DR #2: Kaoru used "Perhaps" in her sentences. Why speculate who's Uta's love interest when you know it's you? Translation errors?

Again, I and other people already explained it and it is really easy to understand from context, even if written a bit clumsy, but fine, here I go again. After Uta confessed at the end of last chapter in w/e way (words/kiss/something else) Kaoru is pretty much in denial. She might even rejected/told Uta to act as if nothing happened after confession. So entire chapter is played out as if nothing happened, but you see subtle clues that both of them feel awkward about some subjects and are aware things are not 100% back to normal, especially with Uta's rush to leave the house, as I explained above. So Kaoru was trying to not think about it, once Uta left for work she is indulging into her fantasies. "The person she fallen for, who could it be? Maybe teacher from school? Yes that make sense! Or maybe someone from work? Yes that wouldn't be that surprising!" and after doing it for a while, she stops and basically thinks to herself "Who I'm trying to kid. She totally is in love with me." At this point she stopped trying to run away from reality and entire gravity of their situation finally sunk in.

The tense isn't really a mistranslation, it can be a bit misleading at places, but once she finally admits it all was just fantasies, it should be clear she was just in denial about Uta's feelings. I agree the sentence that mattered the most could be translated a bit different as Kaoru is very direct there. Copying myself from post you clearly didn't read:

Nevri posted:

I looked at raws again and that sentence is a bit mistranslated. It technically has the same meaning, but as we see plenty people either don't understand it or have different interpretations what she meant by it. The original line is much more direct in referring to those 2 scenarios she came up with and would go something like that "If it went according to such typical scenarios (she literally used word "wild fantasies"), we could keep being a family." with "being a family" I assume she refers to Uta leaving house and breaking the current family apart, as in, even if she leaves they are still family, but she would destroy the family as they are right now.

I'm honestly tired of having to repeat myself every 2 pages. In case you don't agree with me, group's translator actually agrees with my interpretation of this chapter. So it is pretty much confirmed something happened between them during trip and Kaoru is now aware of Uta's feelings.

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Right, also:

Pyoro posted:

But it's still - like the Tree of Origin. Human-elf racism. The princess. Pseudo-medieval-fantasy setting. Bla.

I'd say they are more of fantasy cliches than LN ones. I didn't read a lot fantasies, so I guess I'm not tired of those yet. And idea that humans hate elves is actually new to me, since I'm more used to elves being very arrogant and considering themselves superior race, so it was more of them looking down on humans rather than straight hating them. I don't think I saw humans hating elves back before.

Rye posted:

I'm so mad rn...uh...kinda? I only wanted Kiyo...
Uuuhhh...ticket hype(?)
6 4* Atlanta CE, 3 5* Drake CE. Also, D'eon and Sumanai- I mean 2 rare prisms.

I deserve this...sorry for making fun of your luck, Nev...
I also got one on my alt account...with a ticket as well. It's still for sale btw, that's right! $0 for 3 5*!

Hahahah xD Nice x3

Symphogeah posted:

Seriously, Amemiya is such a scum.. I with MC would fall for a better person...

Why do people hate on sexually promiscuous women, just because they love freely. This 2018, damnit women have just as much, of a right to sexual expression as men.

She hurt the girl that rainy day, she made up some lie about having a girlfriend to get rid of her, she was playing around WITH HER.

We can safely assume Satsuki flirts and have sex, but never go beyond it and it all stays physical. Rain girl most likely go so into her, after sex she wanted to date her, so Satsuki obviously refused, but rain girl was charmed so much she didn't listen and was sure if she will be insistent enough, Satsuki will give in. Most likely she fallen for her hard and become completely obsessive not being able to accept it was just a 1 time thing. So she kept nagging Satsuki and eventually stalked her to her home. Satsuki clearly said she rejected her, even went as far as to lie she has girlfriend so she can't date her, but it seemed to not be enough. So she figured, if she really show her she has one, it should sink in and girl will give up so she asked Yuka to pretend.

I mean, the way she just used and got rid or people when she didn't need them anymore (like the girl who accompanied her and she used her as a bait) shows us how she doesn't give a fuck about anyone but herself.

Again, she clearly said she was out with friend and just took this route in hopes Yuka will see them and get jealous. In this case we actually have no reason to assume this girl was next girl Satsuki played with. So when Yuka came, she could easily say she had arrangement with Yuka and split with her friend, since it wasn't like she promised her sex or anything. They were probably just out shopping or something. In fact her friend would probably know Satsuki is a player and immediately realized what was up with Yuka, so she wouldn't mind Satsuki leaving her.

Pyoro posted:

IMO that's too often an excuse for bad fiction. "It's all subjective!" Well, it is, but so's everything else. "Killing is bad!" is subjective.

There's plenty of reasonable criteria you can use to judge a book. And separate a good one from a bad one (not saying that I'm an expert on it, because I'm not. But still ...).

I understand there are certain things people noticed to work the best and created different formulas for how to "write a good story". 3 act structure, heroes journey etc. What I meant is they are still just 1 way of writing stuff, they are just the most well know and explored. I'm not saying to write randomly, so you will be "original and unique" for the sake of it or "it's my style!". You should actually know what you're doing, so as long as you're doing things with purpose, you don't need to strictly follow all those established rules, as they are just 1 way to write a good story. Obviously I'm aware doing it is harder as you can't rely on well established formulas as well as you still need to be good writer first.

In the end whatever something is good or bad depends on the reader, because you can't say something is objectively bad, because there is no such thing. It is all just a opinion.

bitfarb posted:

it would've been better if the playgirl was the one who fell head over heels instead

Do we have any good stories like that here? Something where the confident player gets all flustered and loses her mojo would be fun!

This one should fit it then https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/pure_hearted_playgirl#2

Liked it a lot. Art is nice. And lol, Yuka given into gay so easily xD

Also found a mistake:
Yuka was popular with guys for 24 years... https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/happy_nest#14
...but she is 22 years old https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/happy_nest#48

Pyoro posted:

Both true. But that doesn't cover more people than those that are praising it, so I'm still not buying the "everyone these days is just too lazy to read!" statement; at least among those that bothered to comment it seems people are pretty fine with reading and enjoying it ;)

I was specifically replying to sheska since their outright stated that reading books is pointless. Since you replied saying how this is trash and they were right to not read it, you can forgive me for thinking you were agreeing with them. And I was talking more in general, because similar attitude is pretty common nowadays. Sure there are people here who read it, but there is also some totally turned off by idea of it being mostly text or that it is uploaded on dynasty at all (which puzzles me since they can simply ignore it, but whatever).

It makes for a good read if you take it for what lightnovels are: light reading

Yeah, and that's why I wasn't sure how critical I wanted to be - the translation at least is clearly not at fault (compared to some others). But I have read a lot of light/web novels. And there's still a large difference between something that at least makes up for simple prose and run-away pace by being original, by being tense, by taking surprising twists and turns ...

Do we even are sure it is light novel? I know it has manga styled images, but I'm pretty sure nowadays even writers of normal novels ask for "manga art" for their covers. I'm wondering because light novels are usually meant to be long running series and this one seems to be closed with just 1 volume. Either way, light novel are not meant to be trash. They are meant to be easy and fast to read, but that doesn't mean they can't be well written. Sure, plot in this one isn't really anything super original, but I liked it for what it was. It introduced and developed its main character nice and it flowed well for the most part. It had few flaws I mentioned already, but overall it did a good job at doing what it set out to do. And if we consider it being part smut, it did good job on 1 out of 2 sex scenes. You're making it sounds like every single work has to be either very unique and original or incredibly tense and full of things going on. The most important part is execution. It was simple prose and run-away, but I think it was executed relativity well. I didn't mind initial slow pace as it let things build up and sink in. I can understand if you are not impressed because you already saw it enough times, but that doesn't mean the work itself is bad because of it. That is more what I meant before, there is no 1 set way to judge whatever something is good or bad. It's all subjective and will work differently depending on person.

This is just a bit of porn with a bunch of classic LN tropes. And even for porn there's better. Well. Minus the cute illustrations, maybe.

I'm curious which LN tropes you meant exactly, as I failed to notice self insert otaku without personality send to different world and gaining all possible powers imaginable, because he is a chosen one mentioned in old prophecy and because of that all ladies are suddenly attracted to him and want to fuck him, but he can't choose one and anyway he made a oath he will have sex only after marriage so he has to reject and avoid getting raped by all of them before he marries one of them. I didn't see big breasted onee-san, flat chested tsundere, deadpan loli, sexy older lady and so on. But I might missed something.

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Pyoro posted:

So as I thought. Just too lazy to read a book. People nowadays really are spoiled rotten.

When people read something that basically starts with "Look at them trees, being all green and shit." and praise it for it's quality I wouldn't exactly call them spoiled. More like ... generous. Undemanding. Charitable.

Except when you didn't even bother to check quality, because you assumed all books are the same and not worth your time.

And if you are going to argue, book is not just its first line, but entire thing, so if you judge it based on 1 sentence it is the same as basing it on its cover. And before you tell me first sentence has to catch audience attention and pool them in, the only reason is has to, is because people nowadays has no patience and attention span. It is good to have good hook immediately, but you can as well make a very good first paragraph. In fact before having just good first chapter, that would be interesting, was enough. But nowadays people are so easily distracted and lose interest so fast, you have to grab their attention the second they lay their eyes on your thing and force them to care. That is why nowadays most stuff has to open with explosion or action, because otherwise people don't care. So yes, I call them spoiled.

sheska posted:

Yea, because waiting a year for new release of 1 chapter of manga is so much better.

I'll go ahead n read the raw then, problem solved

With that logic you can as well just read the raws of LN.

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sheska posted:

whether or not the story is good, I just can't bring myself to read LN cause I get bored easily after all.

LN already has Lots of Words as it is

So as I thought. Just too lazy to read a book. People nowadays really are spoiled rotten.

, n moreover LN tends to have many volumes as well. which obviously mean it'd be really Tiring to wait the release date of it

Yea, because waiting a year for new release of 1 chapter of manga is so much better.

Arckuno posted:

But you can't say it's not stealing.

Well, I can, but at this point we'll have to just agree to disagree.

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Arckuno posted:

Even if you're not their audience, it's still their intellectual property and they can choose what gets done with it.

And I can say it is dumb.

schuyguy posted:

I highly advise against translating this into English. Irua herself asked specifically not to do so, so translating it would mean directly giving the finger to one of the yuri artists our community relies on and generally appreciates and respects. What we do is already ethically questionable, but that would be, and is, a clearly ethical dick move. Ominously, the third one has not shown up at comiket as originally planned.

That being said, we have the scans and are planning on reaching out to Irua after time has passed for actual permission on our end.

What we do is stealing.

What do we steal though? I can't buy 99% of those mangas. They are not available in my country. My reading it on internet doesn't cost author a yen. They never bothered to sell it to me. Most people don't understand 1 thing about piracy. Majority of people who enjoy work will buy it whenever it become available to them (some will even buy raws when they have no other option and they really want to support author). People who wouldn't buy those mangas in the first place, wouldn't buy them w/e they can read them online or not or w/e they enjoyed them or not. They want to read stuff for free. Not finding it online, won't make them buy it. They will just look for something else. Assuming every person who read something online stolen from author and made them loose money is simply incorrect. It isn't a 1:1 ratio. Sure some people would buy something if it wasn't available on the net, but those people are actually in minority.

So to me getting mad over someone reading your doujin they couldn't buy anyway is stupid. She already made all the money she could from it. She sold it on comiket. Only argument you could make is her wanting to keep it as limited release and only people who bought it can see it. Which again to me is stupid. She already got money from it. I would be more than happy for my work to be spread around for as many people to read as possible. And even in case she would think it would be published officially at some point. Again. Will it be licensed in every country ever? And in countries it will be published it is people's responsibility to buy works they liked and support author/industry. I would gladly buy as much yuri as I could, but I can't. And last thing, fan scanlation and subs were the main reason in the first place manga and anime got popular in other countries at all. For the longest time and still even now, Japan do not give fuck about other countries. Majority of anime and manga is made with domestic market in mind. Only recently they realized they actually can make more money licensing this shit to different countries and only because it was already popular there to begin with. So suddenly going against fan translations is just counterproductive. In fact, at least in my country, almost all publishers basically base their releases on people already knowing those series. They make pools which work people want to see licensed and you can only really vote if you read it in the first place. And where do you read it? Online from fan scanlations. Making sure series you are publishing are already popular is like the main way to choose works here.

rederoin posted:

Got a link to it? Is it magic/science babies?

Well magic babies are canon in this story so. Rem is one.

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sheska posted:

Why is it such a big deal that this is a LN? It has a great plot, few but wonderful illustrations, and interesting character development. Yuri is Yuri regardless if it's written text or a bunch of pictures. Personally I enjoyed it and I can't wait for future chapters

LN is just too mundane, I'd rather read VN than LN.

Yea, because books are boring by default. There is no way to tell a good story through them without sound and movement to keep your attention, I am right?

Rainillo posted:

Well, this story started interesting until it went kinda too hentai for me in the end. The second sex scene just felt too forced and honestly kind of out of nowhere. Maybe the princess being startled on Rem leaving the room and her reaction on Rem finding out the grimoires would be more interesting for me than a cliche drug induced love making. Idk just me.

The first part was a good read though, I like how it described the world of the elf village, how Rem's general relationship with the town is and how she journeyed out of those walls. It was great! I'm looking forward to how this story progresses maybe with a less tone on the obvious sex for sex sake. It would be nice to see how their relationship would grow from this.

I completely agree. I really liked how well Rem character and life was fleshed out. Her running away was very well done. I'm not going to lie I had few assumptions about plot based on title alone (that Rem x Princess will be OTP), so once I got the feeling of the story I started to have certain expectations of where it will go. So I was really disappointed how the whole mansion part was handled. As I feel sorry for our poor elf I really wished princess would turn out to be the one who will be nice to her, but we all know how it went. Possibility of them bonding and becoming closer is still there, I just thought we will already get it in this chapter. When we got to sex I realized I'm reading smut, so I didn't really mind those elements, especially since first one was executed really well and was just hot. Second one on the other hand was totally forced. I understand it was used to explain aphrodisiac thing and make princess turn into cat in front of Rem, but I'm sure it could be done differently or sex itself could be written better. At this point I really wanted to see them talk and interact. On that topic. While from my understanding it does make sense why princess would use it, I was at the same time disappointed by its inclusion. I hoped it was instead a part of princess curse (you know, while keeping with cat theme, going into heat?) and she was spreading some kind of pheromones which affected Rem. Alternatively she simply got turned on because of her inner gayness/princess smell without understanding what is going on (she is called Lesbian Elf after all). Last option, for whatever reason she could react to princess stronger than others because she is elf (or they have some special spiritual connection or something like that). And last thing, while author do remember Rem didn't eat for days, the fact it wasn't addressed yet and it doesn't seem to really affect Rem in any negative way is really starting to chip on my suspension of disbelief. And it is a really stupid reason to lose it over, so eat something already yuri damn it!

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yedad posted:

well i don't know if i'm the only one worried by the fact that the Rem hasn't eat anything yet

Considering the fact it was established that she didn't eat for at least 4 days before entering mansion, then in mansion she spend at least 1 next day without eating, (not to mention she had 2 hot lesbian sexes that had to take a lot of energy from her) I'm honestly surprised she can still move at all and has energy to do anything. She honestly should have lose conscious after falling into that trap, not crawl out of it, have sex and then go on without eating and complaining about it for next whole day.

But first sex was really hot, so I forgive author for that.

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Doctor_Hoot posted:

But dicking around with the main conflict of the series without any meaningful payoff, and then "oops see you next volume"?

I agree not showing the confession moment in manga called "My Unrequited Love" was a dick move. Sadly according to manga and author this is not the main conflict. What happened in the past, Reiichi's and Uta's current family issues and w/e Reiichi is cheating or not, are treated by author as equally important and given the same amount of attention (aka barely giving any hints without actually explaining anything and relying on drama and mystery).

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Salamandrake posted:

I find it a bit odd that Rem can accept that she has two mothers, but resists the princess' advances because they're both girls.

I'm fairly sure it was princess who brought up the 2 girls thing. Rem was only mad because she was taken advantage off.

Monki13 posted:

Urhghghf. How. The Hell, can the half elf be so stupid????????????
She did everything she wasn't supposed to. Trusting a stranger. Revealing her identity more than once to the human race who hates elves to the core. And wth is a thief if not for people taking stuff without paying or permission? A elf doesn't change crap. U steal stuff, ur a thief. End of story.

Well she is young, sheltered and have no idea about world outside of forest. Her making some careless mistakes isn't that unrealistic. Especially since she was tired and starving. And at the beginning she was caution. The whole reason she stolen food at first was because, she was too afraid to reveal herself and when she heard there was place where you can get food legally she immediately went there, but had no idea she would have to pay. If she had money or someone hired her she would gladly pay for food, because she was feeling guilty about stealing it. She only lowered her guard when merchant showed her kindness and she assumed it meant those stories of humans hating elves couldn't be possibly true, when they are that nice to strangers. And when she sneak into mansion it was her 4th day without eating, she was barely awake and desperate. She didn't want to be labeled theft and didn't feel like one exactly because she knew it was wrong thing to do. Sure, she still did it and stealing from necessity isn't any better, but I think we can all agree her position was a bit more justified as she was a teen elf in middle of human world that is racist against elves.

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Rye posted:

Nevri with the reverse EX-luck XD

That moment when you question w/e you have E Luck or EX Luck...

YuzuYuri posted:

Seven Seas

No, I thought this one was the new installment of NanaHitomi series? She continued that right?

Kisses, Sighs, and Cherry Blossom Pink contains few short stories as well as story of Nana and Hitomi. It has 2 volumes and second one has mostly stories about those 2.

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Naizuri posted:

Personally I'm not into it, but I do like girls that have a smaller body, cute faces and small chests because I find them to be the cutest (I'm talking about adults here, I should clarify just in case), so I kinda understand the whole appeal of it as long as is not intended to be a pedo fantasy.

And then there are people who actually insert themselves as lolis.

drpepperfan posted:

He's been banned for a month. The worry is, if he comes back, will he just post a months worth of comments in a row...

I can't believe they actually did that. Welp the message clearly didn't get through, so I think it is safe to perma ban them.

Rye posted:

@Do you have banana-oni too?

Wanted to drop her. Got spooked by Drake and Raikou. Gacha is fun! I like them so it's k, but still I wanted Ibaraki more.

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