meh, forgive me this is mostly because i am a romantic but i really don't like long-standing orgies like this, you wanna have one night stands? fine, not for me but that's ok, but i dont like orgies on the basis of OTP or OT3 (in very rare cases) is probably much more love filled and satisfying in the long run.

sex is fine and all but it only lasts a short time and when you get to the point where you are doing it with a shitton of people you dont care about it loses all meaning, so yeah basically because my views on sex tend to be that they should have more love in them i dont really like this much.

Well, Mira already uses a lot of sex in her works, so that's nothing new, and the reason for having the orgy in the story (which is what most people didn't like), is probably due to the S&M theme (that most people overlooked, because it only appears for a few pages).

The orgy is supposed to be all about S&M, about the ambiance. I admit it fell a little flat on that promise... But in this manga, or any S&M manga, sex is not the highest and mightiest of all things, it's just a means of communicating feelings.

meh, forgive me this is mostly because i am a romantic but i really don't like long-standing orgies like this, you wanna have one night stands? fine, not for me but that's ok, but i dont like orgies on the basis of OTP or OT3 (in very rare cases) is probably much more love filled and satisfying in the long run.

sex is fine and all but it only lasts a short time and when you get to the point where you are doing it with a shitton of people you dont care about it loses all meaning, so yeah basically because my views on sex tend to be that they should have more love in them i dont really like this much.

yeha i TOTALLY Agree with you on this part, i have nothing against sex as long as it's love then it's good with me :3 , but if it's lustful sex with 0 emotion behind (excluding Lust) then i hate it :/ , but if it's between and for a different reason....it depends on the situation :3

I never linked SM and orgy (even for the ambiance) , but well I don't really know a lot about it. Am I just being ignorant ?

Edit : The few time I saw SM it was a two person thing but again, I didn't saw lots of it

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Also, if anybody can link the raws that'd be great,

I've only seen a few disjointed pages of ch2 but here's what it was:

Moe seemed to be getting 'tutored' on becoming a domme herself, a fair few scenes with her topping various different girls. These included her spiky haired friend (I think it was her, anyway), Ayane (the girl that tells her not to go to the orgy) and more. Also one sex scene with her and Ran alone together but Ran is crying (more than the usual hentai-scene crying) and Moe looks kind of sad herself. And another orgy except Moe is the domme and Ran is one of the many subs.

Again, pages were disjointed so some of this could be missing context :p

.....gfdi...the more I hear about this series the more I don't want to risk reading it...I can't fucking believe Ayane get's dragged into it tho. That pisses me off.

i feel like this might end up being really shitty.

Yeah, this mangaka is really doing something that's way out of his element and, let's be honest, that rarely ever ends well lol. I'm not loving it based off the first chapter alone (although that might just be because I like couples, so orgy's, especially those involving pseudorapes really, REALLY piss me off) and if it keeps on with this, i'll probably just drop it. And I'll be honest, it takes A LOT for me to drop a yuri series.

Have guys actually read his/her works? He did pseudo-rape before, he did start off with sex right at the very start, it's not out of his element at all. The only new elements are the orgy and the S&M, and that's fine too. Not every author wants to write the same story a billion times, some likes to write NEW things.

And it WASN'T rape, she wasn't jumped on the minute she came in, she had plenty of chances to back off. Just because the Mira didn't detailed her every thoughts this time, everyone assumes it was rape.

It's something new. Not his usual pre-determined, carefree happy ending, without any real problem, but a bit grimmer, bit darker and bit more dramatic story. And it'll be just as good, if not better.

If you can't take darker manga, don't read it, your loss, but be a man and don't try to blame it on the author.

Few things in response
-I never said Mira had never done pseudorape before. When did I EVER say that? All I said was that it pisses me off.
-And nobody even was about to complain about starting off with sex. Everybody knows that this author is primarily a hentai artist. My issue was with the orgy itself.
-And I never even said the series was bad. All I said was that I didn't really like the first chapter and that an author's first attempt at trying new things USUALLY ends in flames. I'm not guaranteeing this one will, I'm saying i won't be surprised if it does. Hell, even the guy I was replying to said, "I have a feeling..." Nobody has made any final judgements. These are just first impressions.
-And I know it wasn't exactly rape, hence why I put "pseudorape" because, the fact of the matter is, she did not enter the orgy willingly. She STAYED in it willingly and that's where the difference lies.
-And when did I blame the author for anything? I literally even said that if I don't like it, then I won't read it. Why are you phrasing it as if I swore to go on some vendetta on this author for changing his style and making something I MIGHT not like?

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I prefer ayane senpai D:

Ah read this already at yuri-ism.net

I prefer ayane senpai D:
She did look yummy

Well all that glitter wasn't gold after all with Ran-Senpai afer Moe-chan found out when Ayane told her. Best to do control damage now that go psycho later on.
At least Moe had a little chance to be closer (not by choice) than wondering with Ran-Senpai. The unripe fruit has been eaten

oh gawd, what have I stumbled on.... :v but yeah! forget about Ran! She already has a woman! >_> It ain't good to steal! :|

-I never said Mira had never done pseudorape before. When did I EVER say that? All I said was that it pisses me off.

Then, I'm sorry, it seemed to me that that's what you're saying. My main point is it's not that new for Mira, its just a few new spices.

-And I know it wasn't exactly rape, hence why I put "pseudorape" because, the fact of the matter is, she did not enter the orgy willingly. She STAYED in it willingly and that's where the difference lies.

I wouldn't even call it pseudorape. The one in "The sea, you and the sun" was pseudorape (and I didn't see anyone complaining). Here, Moe did enter the orgy willingly. Of course she wasn't the one to initiate, but you can't really say that she didn't know what kind of place it was, and she didn't even tried to resist, or run away, instead she sit down and watched with anticipation... that's willing enough for me.

-And when did I blame the author for anything? ...

That was my own opinion added, I don't like to double post, so only the first paragraph was specific to you, the others were more general.

About the orgy - it's supposed to contribute to the S&M theme of the manga, and it's clearly failed. It's clear that Mira is not used to this theme yet, it looked much more like an orgy from a harem-comedy hentai, rather than an S&M club.

S&M in manga (I don't really have IRL experience with it, and I'm not japan) is partly about confronting (sexual) taboos in society, and finding excitement in them. Orgies, and in general, sex with people other than your lover, is a taboo, it's wrong in society, but S&M removes that aspect. Sex in S&M isn't some glorious sacred thing, it's dirty, it's cheap, and only for pleasure, and there is nothing wrong with doing it whoever you want. It's a different world.

All I can say is give it time. You can read "Nana to Kaoru" for some insight, if you want, and hope Mira gets better at the ambiance thing.

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Sex in S&M isn't some glorious sacred thing, it's dirty, it's cheap, and only for pleasure,

OK imma stop you right there, as a masochist i take some offence to this, i don't just get off on ANYBODY insulting me or punishing my body, if an average asshole does that to me then they are a dick, something about a person i care about doing that to me however? that shit is hot.
S and M isn't some "cheap and dirty" thing, its just another form of sexual intercourse

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Sex in S&M isn't some glorious sacred thing, it's dirty, it's cheap, and only for pleasure,

OK imma stop you right there, as a masochist i take some offence to this, i don't just get off on ANYBODY insulting me or punishing my body, if an average asshole does that to me then they are a dick, something about a person i care about doing that to me however? that shit is hot.
S and M isn't some "cheap and dirty" thing, its just another form of sexual intercourse

First, I explicitly said I'm talking about S&M manga. I don't have any IRL S&M experience, and I never felt the need for it.
Second, Japan is a crazy country, if you've seen japanese porn, you know it. And S&M in manga is Japanese S&M, not the soft-core European kind.
Third, I never said S&M is cheap and dirty. I said, the sex in S&M is. But only as opposed to the concept of some "holy union between men and woman", the way society usually looks at sex.

Well this is new. I'm not against the story so I'll continue reading the rest when it comes out. Don't know why so many people are against orgy tags.

Heheh reminds me of Cream Lemon. Anyway, interesting read.

This will be one of those series that I don't want to read but still probably going to just for the sake that it's porn.

This will be one of those stories where I wont enjoy the forum thread :p what im being honest...
Im intrigued by the setting a helluva way to start a manga...I see triangle and manipulation cuz sempai was turned on by Moe, but maybe Moe wasnt invited cuz the dorm mother knew sempai liked Moe...and that "helpful" girl is prob as luv struck too...maybe? shrug
will have to see, hope the story is good but its a good thing its not some "discover/deny lead up to" bullshit...its all happened and now the character is having to deal all in ch. 1 I appreciate a story that just throws you in it...
Thanks for scantalating, hope next ch comes soon ^_^

I ish someone would translate Mira's Candy Moon

This, I like this

It's completely consensual. Why are people have a problem with it?

I admit that I quite like it. :D But I would skip the unrequited love part, just the art and sex scenes are good enough for me in this case. It was quite delicious. :D :D

Damn, this doujins was really heavy, something scary maybe because it feel very irresponsable

I don't know rather I like it or not but I'm curious to see what happen next.

Well this is new. I'm not against the story so I'll continue reading the rest when it comes out. Don't know why so many people are against orgy tags.

I've always found orgys (of the yuri kind) to be interesting for the plain fact I like seeing girls be thrown in a pile and seeing what happens. Reading them is more fun. Reading any smut that has more than 2 females having sex pretty much forces authors to figure out how to describe the sex between the females without you being confused as to who grabbed who's tit XD