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Cannibal

September 12, 2017 8:31AM

joined Dec 12, 2016

First, I want to say, love how you ignore the fact that you claimed that Naru blew up and yelled when she clearly didn't.

The hell are you talking about? I barely even mentioned seniority. You're thinking of someone else entirely. I wrote an entire thing on the difference between their attitudes, but you clearly can't read.

What a complete and utter lie. They literally don't have a different attitude. They both literally hate additional work load. Naru has an attitude but Umiko uses physical violence. You have yet to address this.

Then why does how many projects she finishes or how quickly she finishes them even matter, when she can clearly show exactly what was requested of her, when it was requested, and how quickly she coded it?

Because she can't show how quickly she coded it because the project is literally not done yet. Why the hell do you think she asks Hajime to take responsibility for the project being late? Oh right, you haven't what they actually said, you are too focused on how she said it.

So she is asking Hajime to take responsibility for something... that she can already prove isn't he own fault? Why?

Why not? So she doesn't have to use it an excuse later. Better for Hajime to voluntarily take responsibility than having to make a case to the bosses later.

Yeah, because there is still more work to do after that stage. Among other things, they need to get final approval from above, then actually insert it into the game. It is never specifically mentioned when the deadline is, or that she's already past it when she turns it in. She couldn't be past it yet, anyway, considering the terminology she used meaning the final shipping date for the whole product, and that there is still work being done on it.

She literally says that if she has to redo it then she will be late. Then has to ask Hajime directly to take responsibility for it being late. And yet here you are trying to claim that it isn't late. How daft can you get?

I feel like it was mentioned this was a smaller project, but I can't remember specifically where. Maybe it was in the anime, which I can't check at this time.

Hazuki makes no mention of it being a smaller project when requesting ideas.

Youre not even arguing with me at this point, esoecially considering that the volume ends with the game's release. But by all means, keep inseting your own assumptions instead of going by the series' own logic.

And we have seen chapters skip months between pages. Still doesn't show a time line, what chapter did summer start? What chapter did fall start? What chapter did Winter start?

Still doesn't matter since we know for a fact that they are literally months out from release, we know that Naru has a month dead line for the mini-game. Well, anyone with the subtle amount of deductive reasoning knows, you clearly can't grasp it. Also got to love how you claim that the game is being released so very soon and yet Naru is still working on the same game months after given the project. I wonder what they would have had her do if the mini-game was designed well sooner.

Again, arguing either side of this point any further is pointless when we could just wait to see how it gets animated today.

You literally see her bow. Are you blind?

Or a problem with the change that will cause further delays, but I guess that wouldn't help your case.

"I want to add something to this part."
"I told you it would end up that way."

Yeah, I can clearly see how she is talking about future delays, and not past suggestions being ignored.

What? She is clearly stating that there are problems with the changes Hazuki made. Nothing to do with Umiko suggesting changes herself.

Why the hell would she need to go to the effortof dragging Hazuki all the way to the programmer booth just for a flick? She could do that anywhere. Especially considering that it is far from the only time she does it, the first times being long before they even made the flick agreement.

What are you even arguing about at this point. How does any of this prove that Umiko is making suggestion to change the spec? There is absolutely nothing suggesting such, only Umiko getting mad at Hazuki for making changes.

Yeah, and finishes by saying that she could have pretty forcefully dealt with Hajime if she had been the one working with her. Since, you know, the entire point I was making in this section was about Umiko getting more directly involved with the designers, that's thr single statement I was referencing. For you to bring completely outside points into it, your reading comprehension is pretty bad, itself.

HAHAHA that wasn't your point at all. Umiko is getting mad at the changes, therefore she is getting involved in the changes? I guess Haru was just getting involved in the design with her complaints according to your garbage logic.

You have literally called her a complete failure and awful at her job multiple times, in which case so is every single other employee at the company.

So I guess english must be your second language since you don't know the definition of the common word "literal" because I literally never used the term "complete failure", let alone multiple times. I guess it's that wacky head canon of yours kicking in again.

I said she failed at designing the mini-game, which she clearly did since other people had to jump in to fix it for her.

You're arguing against the series' own logic and values with your own judgments and assumptions. If you're going to do that, you need to use the series' logic against itself to show it to be internally inconsistent, not... whatever you think youre doing here.

How the hell am I arguing the series' logic? I'm not. Not once did I say how the company should treat her unless I was referencing the person who said that the company should have fired Naru right there and then. But, again, can't expect much with your reading comprehension.

She literally says its not the changes themselves, but the attitude that she's punishing. How can you be that bad at reading?

The attitude that she is mad at is Hazuki adding changes and not being apologetic about it. If it's not the changes then why should Hazuki apologize? Again, reading comprehension, you lack it.

Maybe if you read more than just the first panel on that page, you'd see the conclusion, the most important point, the entire takeaway from that discussion, is that while annoying, such changes are unavoidable, and that despite the annoyance, she still wants to put out the best product possible, which that annoyance is necessary for.

And this is Umiko saying that, so it is pretty clearly meant to represent the mentality and philosophy of the company's programming team as a whole.

So what are you mad are Naru about? She gets annoyed but does the work anyways because she won't get in trouble for it. How is that any different from Umiko? It's not.

And yet you keep completely ignoring the manga's own internal logic and themes and values to apply your own, completely different ones.

What the fuck are you on? What internal logic did I ignore? The fact that Umiko agreed with Naru's actions to get annoyed at Hajime? That Hajime apologized after realizing that Naru was under more pressure than her? Looks like I'm not the one ignoring the manga's logic.

And yet you, yourself, have agreed in the past that her choice in wording was extremely poor.

Who do you think you are talking to? First you make the claim that I called Hajime a "complete failure" and now you are making the claim that I said that Naru worded her extremely poorly? Again, literally not once.

The term "high quality" has not appeared a single time yet with respect to her code. Every change is a completely new feature, so it's not like she's being asked to redo existing code. So I don't know where you're getting these ideas of slow-down and less focus on the code. As I've stated numerous times and you have ignored every single time, she already has official documentation already showing everything.

What does have redoing existing code have anything to do with the quality of her brand new code? You are not making sense at all. She literally has to slow down by redoing code to add more features, have you ever written a single line of code in your life?

I also love how you think it's more appropriate and respectable for Naru to build a case behind Hajime's back in order to rat her out when the boss comes around asking why the game is late instead of just asking her directly.

She has clearly never even met Hazuki before. Umiko is doing the entirety of her assessment. That's why Hajime's apology message was sent to UMIKO, not Hazuki. In which case the only difference between Hajime and Hazuki is one of seniority, a difference you have criticized an endless number of times.

What the fuck?... Hazuki is literally the boss of her boss and she knows that. What are you smoking?

Given that you have a penchant for completely ignoring not only the majority of the argument you're replying to, but now clearly also have one for ignoring the majority of the information presented in the series itself, this can't even be called a discussion anymore. So there's no point in me continuing it any further.

HAHAHA I literally (there's that confusing word again, youll learn it eventually) reply to every single line you type. You just love to make shit up, don't you? Been writing too many fan fictions that you can't stop yourself from warping reality?

I do look forward to more criticisms about how terrible my reading comprehension is for words that I was the one to write, though.

Well seeing as how you don't know what the word "literally" means I'm going to go out and limb here and say that just because you can translate doesn't mean that you completely understand the meaning of what is being said. this conversation has been evident of that, you can't even understand plain English. I wonder how much has been lost in this manga with your translations.

One last note, quite ironic that you make claims that I don't read what you write and yet we have full documentation here showing that I clearly reply to everything you type. I guess documentation doesn't mean as much to you as you think it does to Eagle Jump.

last edited at Sep 12, 2017 9:04AM

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