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cm

I also can't see Sumin breaking things off with Sungji neither.

true, Sumin will never take this step, it will be Sungji's initial move.
she already informed Seju, but still want to tell Sumin later, maybe after a conversation so we could all come to see her resolve clearly. That's why Sungji told Seju:" please pretend that you didn't win against me"

since I am at it, Sungji used the verb "win" before in ch55. this is the official translation: http://imgur.com/a/T7w1r

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joined Feb 4, 2017

from 4chan:

There's one hardcore Seju and team pink fan I admire. I disagree with everything she says but I admire her stubbornness. She may take things out of context, read too much into some things and too little into the others but at least she not changing her mind and has her own arguments which she can provide and since if them makes a tiny little bit of sense

thanks for the admiration though XD.. as long as you are entertained, I'm happy.

so I stopped visiting them. I will after the story ends, just to see if this girl isn't hurting too much because she's really invested into the story.

but what if I wanted to check up on you too after it ends, dear Anonymous ?

I see some people saying Sungji gave up on Sumin and will walk away because she told Seju to portend she didn't win against her. Lol, what? Sungji told her she has people around herself, Sumin included. She was most likely asked to bring Seju home if she sees her but she took her to the cafe instead and gave her quite a lesson. What Seju won was simply more time (she probably didn't want to go back and that's why Sungji talked to her), nothing else .

wow XD
I truely wonder how many people do read this forum? I think if I lose the bet, suddenly the website may crash by the amount of users gloating over it XDD

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joined Nov 8, 2016

I truely wonder how many people do read this forum? I think if I lose the bet, suddenly the website may crash by the amount of users gloating over it XDD

I can sense hype coming

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I always love reading the WDTFS forum chat because there is always something interested to read about. You guys are really intertaining! Makes me love the manwha even more.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

True Evil

you know that if I lose the bet to yoonie, I will have to put an avatar of SuminXSungji and forever remembering the defeat ?! a lot is on stake XDDD
it could crash my ego later but if I win, oh wow XDD

Ushio
I am a sick person who gets entertained by that too.. even by the indirect call outs in other forums XD..

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cookie_mobster
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joined Jun 9, 2017

Hi, hello!
So, I've been visiting this page for such a long time, I must say reading your opinions is truly entertaining and Nora89 usually made my day with her comments here (seriously, I simply love how you and Foxy Lady tend to analyze even the body language, facial expression and connect the dots from earlier chapters). That aside, I won't go into it too much, but I can't help but think about the flashback in chapter 49., when Sumin, who really can't drink well, got drunk and slept with Nami, and it occurred after Nami told her she slept with Seju. I kind of remembered the incident with the bartender...

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cookie_mobster
Hello, and welcome :D,
thanks a lot, you even used the verb "analyze", I'm quite associated with "over-analyze" .. thanks again.

about ch49, I didn't get what you mean exactly, did you mean Sumin and Seju's conversation "more specifically, Sumin's anger".. or the incident itself ?

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joined Nov 8, 2016

you know that if I lose the bet to yoonie, I will have to put an avatar of SuminXSungji and forever remembering the defeat ?! a lot is on stake XDDD

Yep. I know about the bet. I have been following this thread for a long time just didn't participate in discussions.
Tears of others are the sweetest thing...and I like Yoonie so you have no choice ]=D

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True Evil

the thing is, I'm here with my real name even XD, the others are Anonymous..

and I like Yoonie so you have no choice

she is in Pink too.. she is winning both ways XD.

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cookie_mobster
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joined Jun 9, 2017

about ch49, I didn't get what you mean exactly, did you mean Sumin and Seju's conversation "more specifically, Sumin's anger".. or the incident itself ?

I meant the incident and how I also believe that there are some small hints scattered over different chapters that it wasn't completely Seju's fault. That's how I kind of connected chapter 49. with chapter 10. and 11., but, of course, that's me overanalyzing. xD
Oh, and don't mention it! Hope you'll win that bet. :D

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cookie_mobster

ah, while we know that what we saw was only Sumin's part of the story, and never Seju's.. I always think what if there was really something we don't know and later Sumin would find out.. I can only see it destroying her further rather than just forgiving Seju and giving her the trust back.
I personally have very conflicted feelings about how it should be dealt with.. or whether ignoring it is the best for Seju and Sumin. I don't know

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she is in Pink too.. she is winning both ways XD.

Yeah. I know about it. In my case I like Seju and Sungji equally. Both are beautiful and gorgeous, their personalities are quite appealing so I wish this could be real-> http://orig15.deviantart.net/6da9/f/2016/068/a/3/seju_and_seongji_wdtfs_by_marinightmare-d9uinix.png
But I still like Yoonie and hope she wins

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joined Feb 4, 2017

True Evil

to be honest, I never disliked Sungji, and I have respect to her growth process.. I believed in her role in this story regardless of my preference of the ending.. of course it will be hot to see Sungji and Seju dating instead.. that flirty face of Seju hehehe. (we are perverted my friend.. we are ..)

But I still like Yoonie and hope she wins

she is losing. XD

Edit: now that I think about it, Sungji*Seju would go as wrong as SuminXNammi

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joined Nov 8, 2016

she is losing. XD

it's not over till it's over right? I am willing to put all my money on her ]=D
Honestly since both Seju and Sungji love Sumin so much (I don't even know why, I guess someone cursed them) I wish all three of them could stay together (even though I don't like Sumin and Seju x Sungji most unlikely to happpen).

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Edit: now that I think about it, Sungji*Seju would go as wrong as SuminXNammi

We never know until they try <3 plus opposites attract

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True Evil

it's not over till it's over right?

True, true ;)

We never know until they try <3 plus opposites attract

no, I'll pass.. I just had this nasty image of Sungji calling Seju "Darling" .. I can't .. I can't

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no, I'll pass.. I just had this nasty image of Sungji calling Seju "Darling" .. I can't .. I can't

Hahaha
How about queen? Mistress? or your majesty

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no, I'll pass.. I just had this nasty image of Sungji calling Seju "Darling" .. I can't .. I can't

Hahaha
How about queen? Mistress? or your majesty

NOOOOO!!
http://i.imgur.com/Kf0XuNI.png

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

Whoa, how many pages did you write since I commented here last time?! Like a hundred?!

Jokes aside, I'm on a vacation in a place without the internet or even electricity... good thing my current phone can last like 2 weeks without being charged once it loses lte/2g/3g/wifi connection. I own only 1 powerbank that can charge my phone twice. But it's a great place otherwise and disconnecting can be really good once you get used to it or end up with 4% blood in the booze :D

We're visiting a town right now so I took the opportunity to download the last 2 chapters. I'll read them tonight and share my thoughts once I come back home next week. Hoping everyone is having fun and the chapters are good (did Seju finally strip in front of the assassin? :P).

Have a nice day /evening!

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I was wondering, did Seju really use the ring to manipulate Sungji? I'm not trying to justify Seju for her actions. I just want to really understand what happened.
But if I remember correctly, in CH 55, Seju texted Sungji to get the ring at her office before Sumin was there. And Sumin was going to meet Seju in the office to tell her something (that she loves her and Sungji) I don't think Seju expected Sumin to tell her that she loves her. I know that Seju was expecting Sungji to come to her office, but my question is, would Sungji ever catch Sumin and Seju having sex even if Sumin didn't tell Seju that she loves her?

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I was wondering, did Seju really use the ring to manipulate Sungji? I'm not trying to justify Seju for her actions. I just want to really understand what happened.
But if I remember correctly, in CH 55, Seju texted Sungji to get the ring at her office before Sumin was there. And Sumin was going to meet Seju in the office to tell her something (that she loves her and Sungji) I don't think Seju expected Sumin to tell her that she loves her. I know that Seju was expecting Sungji to come to her office, but my question is, would Sungji ever catch Sumin and Seju having sex even if Sumin didn't tell Seju that she loves her?

We don't see Seju physically message Sungji as far as i can see, all we see is Sungji getting a text saying to come to her office while she is on the bus at 9:38pm. This is after Sungji leaves Sumin at the office (Shown in the flashback straight after the text messsge), who unbeknownst to Sungji was going to see Seju. (As talked about in the phone call between Sumin and Seju at the start of chapter 54)

I'm not sure if Seju had planned to be having sex with Sumin when she had messaged Sungji and she definitely didnt know that Sumin was going to drop the "I love you" bomb, but to me she did seem to take advantage of Sumin's confession and guilt her into having sex whilst knowing that Sungji was on her way over. (Just to clarify: Yes Sumin did also have a choice to not give in to Seju, just like Seju had a choice to not ask for sex while knowing Sungji was on her way)

Just a possibility to think about and I'm not sure if someone has suggested this already but since Seju knows Sumin so well as others have pointed out, then wouldn't she also know about Sumins low alcohol tolerance? So how can we be sure her first plan didn't involve alcohol? Edit: not entirely convinced of this viewpoint myself BTW just keeping an open mind.

.Oh and if people are wanting a discussion on my viewpoint my replies may take a while since i'm not as active on this thread as some people are. Plus I'm a little slow.

: )

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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

she is losing. XD

it's not over till it's over right? I am willing to put all my money on her ]=D
Honestly since both Seju and Sungji love Sumin so much (I don't even know why, I guess someone cursed them) I wish all three of them could stay together (even though I don't like Sumin and Seju x Sungji most unlikely to happpen).

Lollll, I hope I wont make you lose all your money, loool. But I like Seju most so aside from the bet, the most important thing to me would be a happy ending for her :). So lose or win to me, its not really too important, I just wanna her to be happy at the end, as long as she's happy, so like Nora said, if I lost but Seju was happy then I'm totally fine, lol.

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she already informed Seju, but still want to tell Sumin later, maybe after a conversation so we could all come to see her resolve clearly. That's why Sungji told Seju:" please pretend that you didn't win against me"
since I am at it, Sungji used the verb "win" before in ch55. this is the official translation: http://imgur.com/a/T7w1r

I really enjoy reading your posts. They're always so well thought out and you always connect different chapters together, most of your predictions come out true as well, it's pretty cool. ^^

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

cm

I also can't see Sumin breaking things off with Sungji neither.

true, Sumin will never take this step, it will be Sungji's initial move.
she already informed Seju, but still want to tell Sumin later, maybe after a conversation so we could all come to see her resolve clearly. That's why Sungji told Seju:" please pretend that you didn't win against me"

since I am at it, Sungji used the verb "win" before in ch55. this is the official translation: http://imgur.com/a/T7w1r

I'm still very doubtful about this explaination for the pretending sentence, Nora so dont be too sure, you might be wrong later on.

Oh, btw, about this sentence, since you post about some other forum's post, even in English, this sentence is already out of context for the conversation and in Korean, its even wayyyyy weirder than you could possibly think. The verb 'win' is the weirdest, since if Sungji wants Seju to pretend not to fight so much and just go home, this is not the right verb in the situation. So better wait for the official translation, we might understand it better.

And Nora, I've check the raw ver of chap 55, no, Sungji didnt use the same verb, the word Sungji used in chap 55 has more of the meaning "reconization", aka to make her open her heart kinda thing, the translation used a beautful ver of translating. Chap 55 its "인지", this chap is '이긴', this chap the word is literally meant winning. So you should really wait for next chap to see what is really going on.

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yoonie0104

And Nora, I've check the raw ver of chap 55, no, Sungji didnt use the same verb, the word Sungji used in chap 55 has more of the meaning "reconization", aka to make her open her heart kinda thing, the translation used a beautful ver of translating. Chap 55 its "인지", this chap is '이긴', this chap the word is literally meant winning. So you should really wait for next chap to see what is really going on.

this is very insightful, thanks.
because of the original translation of ch55, I've always got the vibe that Sungji was in fact taking it as a challenge, specially her last sentence: things aren't going to end the way you wanted it to, now it's different, hence, the verb win in that chapter felt natural to the situation. But, yes, it wasn't a literal translation.. I must hold back on this one.


cm, I apologise, it seems that I could be wrong about this particular connection.

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