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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

The thing is, they weren't really poor. She bought a company that was already known and needed a little push and some money to get better. That's what Seju did. But... I've got the whole thing as - she bought the company because Sumin worked there and she could thanks to having daddy's money. I don't think she would ever get interested in it if Sumin wasn't there tbh.

Which part showed Seju has bought it because Sumin is working there? if she bought every company Sumin worked for, she probably owns hella a lot of companies =))))). And which part saying it didnt do badly before she bought it? All I know is it's doing very well after she bought it =)))))). Which part saying it's from her father's money to buy that company, instead of the money she herself working on from the previous projects to have it?

Like I already said, it's implied from the previous latest family gatherings, just like how other rich families, the father will give them some money to start your own business, when you lost those money, you have no right to ask for more or ask for inheritance, you heard Seju said that day. So it's implied that Seju didnt waste millions of dollars like her brothers or ask for money from her father but didnt pay back like her brothers. Well, with the flashback with Sumin from the beginning of arc 3, it's safe to say that Seju is pretty smart and with that, she might be pretty successful in her investments and projects. Not all of her money is from her father and not from her hard working, your critism towards her is clouding your judgment towards her, I must say

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016
joined Mar 21, 2017

I thought a lot of the hate she got from her brothers were also because she was her fathers favourite. Can't remember which chapter but in one of the flashbacks from when they were young, Sumin comments on how Seju can get whatever she wants from her father. (Unless it was the other way around, i honestly am not completely sure )

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joined Feb 4, 2017

I did not get what you guys are trying to say ?

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

The thing is, they weren't really poor. She bought a company that was already known and needed a little push and some money to get better. That's what Seju did. But... I've got the whole thing as - she bought the company because Sumin worked there and she could thanks to having daddy's money. I don't think she would ever get interested in it if Sumin wasn't there tbh.

Which part showed Seju has bought it because Sumin is working there? if she bought every company Sumin worked for, she probably owns hella a lot of companies =))))). And which part saying it didnt do badly before she bought it? All I know is it's doing very well after she bought it =)))))). Which part saying it's from her father's money to buy that company, instead of the money she herself working on from the previous projects to have it?

Like I already said, it's implied from the previous latest family gatherings, just like how other rich families, the father will give them some money to start your own business, when you lost those money, you have no right to ask for more or ask for inheritance, you heard Seju said that day. So it's implied that Seju didnt waste millions of dollars like her brothers or ask for money from her father but didnt pay back like her brothers. Well, with the flashback with Sumin from the beginning of arc 3, it's safe to say that Seju is pretty smart and with that, she might be pretty successful in her investments and projects. Not all of her money is from her father and not from her hard working, your critism towards her is clouding your judgment towards her, I must say

Can't remember the exact chapter and can't check it, but maybe Nora can help? Guys were talking about their company, times before Seju and how she made them better. I think it was during that "camping" trip, but might be wrong.

I just got the vibe she bought it because of Sumin. Can't really explain it. It's the feeling. I'm not saying she didn't do a good job, you don't need to prove it to me. Just that they weren't dirt poor and I don't think they'd bankrupt. She brought them to a whole different level and that is something.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

ch6

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

I thought a lot of the hate she got from her brothers were also because she was her fathers favourite. Can't remember which chapter but in one of the flashbacks from when they were young, Sumin comments on how Seju can get whatever she wants from her father. (Unless it was the other way around, i honestly am not completely sure )

Isn't it mostly because of her mother who her father loved very much?

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

ch6

Thanks!

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Isn't it mostly because of her mother who her father loved very much?

or maybe her closest brother in age was in his thirties/ late twenties when Seju was born :D
+ everyone else hated her. maybe!

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Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

or maybe her closest brother in age was in his thirties/ late twenties when Seju was born :D

I also think the one who scarred Sumin was jelly over Seju. She looks exactly like her mom. Maybe he loved her too and those feelings passed over to Seju after her mom committed a very suspicious suicide?

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

I thought a lot of the hate she got from her brothers were also because she was her fathers favourite. Can't remember which chapter but in one of the flashbacks from when they were young, Sumin comments on how Seju can get whatever she wants from her father. (Unless it was the other way around, i honestly am not completely sure )

I'm not sure about the hate thing, mostly because she's the daughter that no one wants rather than being her father's favourite, but yes, her father doted on her, that creepy brother also said that, since her father was afraid that she would end her life because it was too hard, he gave her everything she wanted when they were young :), but after the break up, I believe her relationship with her father is not that good :). Remember the scene where she had a folder in her hand and visited her father, she called him names that would never be used to call your father :), so I wont be surprised if she doesnt use or need her father's money :)

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joined Feb 4, 2017

but what are we trying to prove again?

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

but what are we trying to prove again?

Nothing, we're having a normal conversation this time :p

joined Jun 6, 2016

The message is clear in this scene - you can't BUY love. What you do is more important. Seju was always for the money. She's seeing a completely different side of Sumin these days. Something she never saw before. I like their friendship going ok now, but I wonder is she's plotting something or not.

You're wrong, go read the chap again. Seju said this "if you worked with the hours you make the scarf, you would be able to buy 100 of them". That's words from a true business woman. Instead of wasting your time on that, go work and make money then buy it with the money you make by working. That means she values work =)))))), work and make money instead of doing these things. Life lesson we got there =)))))). You cant be romantic but starve to death =))))).
Its not about money Seju is meaning, its about using your time more meaningful =)))))))), work to make money to buy it instead =)))))). She's practical that way =))))), but well, no surprise, she's born in a business family and a president of a company

It's still about buying stuff instead of investing your heart in it.

Haizzza, talking to you is like talking to someone who never understands others' pov =)))))))), so frustrating =))))))). It's practical, not romantic or sentimental. I agree =))))). But come on, Seju's words are true, instead of wasting time knitting those, go working and buy it, more practical and not wasting of your time for useless things. Some might not be as romantic as others, some are more practical. What's wrong about working your butt off when thinking of the person you love to have some money and buy sth nice for that person? Isnt it also investing your heart in it? I hope you can at least listen and understand a little bit that it is different and truth in Seju's words and her pov as a business woman

I agree about work, just disagree when it comes to money. What did Seju always done with Sumin? She bought her stuff, even if she never wanted it. And those weren't even her hard worked money. So even though the advice is partially right (come on, Sumin needs a job), I find her also wrong ;)

Please stop to diminish everything seju has done... at least one for god sake....

First seju bought something to sumin and sumin actually like it thought.... if don't, she can't refuse it anytime.. but no... she always accept "seju gift"... seju knows sumin wanted it.. that's why she bought her (the house and the blue cars.. seju bought blue car after looking a pamphlet that sumin brought... same with the house) it means sumin want it just hesitating a bit

And it's a hard work money... just because people is rich... doesn't mean they aren't diligent.. or even lazy.... (since you implying it isn't hardworked money)

Rich peoples surprisingly very diligent and hard working... they actually work smart... delegate works to people who is credible... for people who own company.. sometimes they work 24/7... it means when something bad happened... they're willing to work on it anytime possible... they make plan to grow their company all the time.... not like Poeple who got paid and work only in office hours (or get overtime).

And compare to seju and her other brothers who wasted their father money.. seju in the other hand create her own company.... make her own money

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Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

^you need to read my other comments.

TheLurkerAgain
joined May 4, 2017

but what are we trying to prove again?

That money can't buy love but you also need to think about the future and Sumin needs to get a job.

Once again; I see all the conversations about money and love and how sweet Sumin is but has anyone realized that Sumin isn't in a rush to get a job because Seju's father gave her inheritance and she lives in Sejus house so clearly she doesn't pay rent?

Didn't she kind of shut down when the death of her parents happen and not work too? And I'm assuming Seju financially supported her during that time as well....

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joined Feb 4, 2017

but what are we trying to prove again?

That money can't buy love but you also need to think about the future and Sumin needs to get a job.

Once again; I see all the conversations about money and love and how sweet Sumin is but has anyone realized that Sumin isn't in a rush to get a job because Seju's father gave her inheritance and she lives in Sejus house so clearly she doesn't pay rent?

Didn't she kind of shut down when the death of her parents happen and not work too? And I'm assuming Seju financially supported her during that time as well....

exactly :D

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

but what are we trying to prove again?

That money can't buy love but you also need to think about the future and Sumin needs to get a job.

Once again; I see all the conversations about money and love and how sweet Sumin is but has anyone realized that Sumin isn't in a rush to get a job because Seju's father gave her inheritance and she lives in Sejus house so clearly she doesn't pay rent?

Didn't she kind of shut down when the death of her parents happen and not work too? And I'm assuming Seju financially supported her during that time as well....

Yeah, I did. But didn't Sumin refuse Seju's dad this time?
She for sure has enough money to last for a while since she wants to buy this house. But she has to eat too.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

btw, this is so you know from where the car comes from,

joined Jun 6, 2016

The thing is, they weren't really poor. She bought a company that was already known and needed a little push and some money to get better. That's what Seju did. But... I've got the whole thing as - she bought the company because Sumin worked there and she could thanks to having daddy's money. I don't think she would ever get interested in it if Sumin wasn't there tbh.

Which part showed Seju has bought it because Sumin is working there? if she bought every company Sumin worked for, she probably owns hella a lot of companies =))))). And which part saying it didnt do badly before she bought it? All I know is it's doing very well after she bought it =)))))). Which part saying it's from her father's money to buy that company, instead of the money she herself working on from the previous projects to have it?

Like I already said, it's implied from the previous latest family gatherings, just like how other rich families, the father will give them some money to start your own business, when you lost those money, you have no right to ask for more or ask for inheritance, you heard Seju said that day. So it's implied that Seju didnt waste millions of dollars like her brothers or ask for money from her father but didnt pay back like her brothers. Well, with the flashback with Sumin from the beginning of arc 3, it's safe to say that Seju is pretty smart and with that, she might be pretty successful in her investments and projects. Not all of her money is from her father and not from her hard working, your critism towards her is clouding your judgment towards her, I must say

Ikr... it's kinda pointless tbh

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

I think everyone is right to a point. We all just have different life experiences and ideas of how the world is run. Seju is smart otherwise she would have gone bankrupt a long time ago. Her brothers on the other hand sounded quite useless with money. We just can't ignore their socio-economic statuses in how they get where they are. It's a mixture of hard work relative to others in a similar position (Seju vs her brothers) and their status in life.

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joined Jun 6, 2016

^you need to read my other comments.

Which one though?

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

^you need to read my other comments.

Which one though?

All of them after the one you quoted.

Melxlynn2
joined Mar 4, 2017

And... Gotta go for now. Hopefully my phone will come to me tomorrow and I'll be able to join the conversation for longer. Have fun!

last edited at May 8, 2017 8:07PM

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

ch6

Thanks!

I read the chap again, and it's said both of them with another person, just three people worked together right from the start then Seju make it big =))))), so isnt Seju the one who builds that company? You disregard her work too much, really. Too be able to expand it, manage it and make profit from it =))))), I believe she also makes money from previous projects before taking over the company to invest in this. Just because she was born with money, it doesnt mean she doesnt work hard to make money.

Btw, its Seju whi said this in the family gathering "I thought I wont be surprised anymore, but they were born with food automatically stuff into their mouth but they still have so much greed". She knows what she has, her luck but well, it seems she didnt depend on it so much. That chap also prove that she doesnt need money @@

TheLurkerAgain
joined May 4, 2017

but what are we trying to prove again?

That money can't buy love but you also need to think about the future and Sumin needs to get a job.

Once again; I see all the conversations about money and love and how sweet Sumin is but has anyone realized that Sumin isn't in a rush to get a job because Seju's father gave her inheritance and she lives in Sejus house so clearly she doesn't pay rent?

Didn't she kind of shut down when the death of her parents happen and not work too? And I'm assuming Seju financially supported her during that time as well....

Yeah, I did. But didn't Sumin refuse Seju's dad this time?
She for sure has enough money to last for a while since she wants to buy this house. But she has to eat too.

Did she really refuse? I don't remember her handing back the folder

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