Who is Sangmi?

The lawyer

Oh, I dont remember names of Sumin's ex gfs =)))))). And honestly I also forgot what she looks like =))))). So sorry xD. I only remember red hair the most since she's the most special case. Anyway, your gf is quite special, she doesnt like the perfect girl but also doesnt like the girl with alot of flaws like Seju =)))))), hehehe. Would be fun if she is into wdtfs and discussing things with us here =)))))), her pov is quite different :)

She actually has some good points on why she does not like either. (Besides the physicial design of Sungji).. but she has an actual dissertation to discuss.. I doubt she would join anyways

sia ue
The bisexuality thing got into her mind because of the way she was clueless on how to touch a girl even though she had sex before.. and she does not seem intrested in boobs much.. (this is rather dirty) but ah.. it was a silly comment she said on dinner hehehhe

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Dislike =/= hate. Your gf hates or dislike Sungji? I can't find any single reason to hate Sungji.

Dislike =/= hate. Your gf hates or dislike Sungji? I can't find any single reason to hate Sungji.

Mah.. depends on her mood
But let's say, she is not settled with her at alll

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The bisexuality thing got into her mind because of the way she was clueless on how to touch a girl even though she had sex before.. and even how she does not seem intrested in boobs.. (this is rather dirty) but ah.. it was a silly comment she said on dinner hehehhe

O_O

There is a reason why I laughed .. but hey, she has a point

She has a point, but her point is kinda ... :'D

She has a point, but her point is kinda ... :'D

There are other points she made, like enjoying Sumin dominant behaviour even outdoors. And everything she does is so Bi for my GF taste .. meh could be.. but again, it was dinner, I didnt argue

She has a point, but her point is kinda ... :'D

There are other points she made, like enjoying Sumin dominant behaviour even outdoors. And everything she does is so Bi for my GF taste .. meh could be.. but again, it was dinner, I didnt argue

But it was fun to have someone to talk about this manhwa face to face =)))), I cant even tell my best friend I'm reading this rated lesbian manhwa, it's so rated that saying you're reading it could lead people have wrong ideas about yourself @.@, plus it's lesbian :)

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U make that plot twist sound like a steamy night XD

Nah, that plot twist isnt as hot as a steamy night to me, too obvious =))))), but on the other hand, if what you consider not as shocking magically came true, the thrill of finding how that could happen, what kind of scenerio that leads to that is making me soooooo excited =))))))). Like how is that even possible and the progress of it. Heck, ok, writing down like this and actually imagine it, I realize that ending is really thrilling and I'm thrilled, hahahahaha, cause it has to unfold alot of things to be able to lead to that, hahahaha.

Depression does that to people. They try to find a an explanation to why they lost something/someone or why something happened to them so they blame things (which can cause an anxiety - for example after a very bad car accident people can't even sit in an unmoving car for years or ever), people who caused it (for example - parents can kill the person who hurt/killed their child if the justice isn't served the way they wanted it), innocent people or themselves (this one is the worst case scenario because it often ends up with either a successful suicide or an attempt). In Sumin's case, she chose to blame someone innocent. Usually it's the person who is around you - in this case it was Seju. And I know it'll sound weird, but it wasn't a fully conscious doing. Sumin wasn't exactly herself or in full control over what she was doing and saying. Hormones, or to be more specific serotonin, took a huge part here.
What Seju should've done was stay by her side no matter what and make an appointment with a psychiatrist. She should've visit a psychiatrist too, ask how she can help Sumin. Or at least let her calm down and try talking again. But never push to move on. I can't blame her for doing it though since she had no first hand experience with such situation before. Even close families make those mistakes with their depressed loved ones. It's very rare to know what to do right from the beginning. That's why if she didn't sleep with that bartender, everything would've been different.

Seju was Sumin's gf, not her slave, she deserved some respects too. She didn't necessarily have to accept every single stupid blame her depressed gf was putting on her. It's been a month already, and was there a sign showing that her gf would, one day, realize that she, in the first place, had no right to blame any innocent person? I just want to say that Seju was not a rude person who has no common sense of how a gf should do for her depressed gf. I'm not saying that what Sumin did to Seju was enough for her to sleep with someone else.

If Sumiin was a little more reasonable person, everything would've been different too.

As I said - it's a common mistake that comes from not understanding someone's condition. That's why I said we can't judge Seju for acting angry and storming out, telling her to move on. But we can and should judge her for sleeping with that bartender. THAT was her main mistake.
We also can't judge Sumin because she wasn't herself at that time. A month is not nearly enough to deal with anything. Especially since she just got their bodies back and most likely just buried them. It was all fresh.

I'd like to say that I enjoy reading all the POVs and theories. I'm not much of a talker but I enjoy reading the analysis of many of you.

I'm more concerned about no manhwa or manga forums being this active.

As I said - it's a common mistake that comes from not understanding someone's condition. That's why I said we can't judge Seju for acting angry and storming out, telling her to move on. But we can and should judge her for sleeping with that bartender. THAT was her main mistake.
We also can't judge Sumin because she wasn't herself at that time. A month is not nearly enough to deal with anything. Especially since she just got their bodies back and most likely just buried them. It was all fresh.

You're not even sure if she's concious and in her right mind or not when she was with that bartender and what was really there is just our own way of interpreting the scenes unless the author says so but you already tell us that we should judge her? That scene is unclear, you can say that alot of people are saying different scenerios about it and all of sudden you tell us to judge her? How negative it would be to think like that? It's like you come right to a scene where one person is hitting another person and without even thinking, you judge that person as a bad person, it might be even his fault all of that hitting happening but you still cant judge that person as a bad person, if you know what I meant.

So, to you, because Sumin is not in her right mind so she can do whatever she wants and we can not judge her but we need to judge Seju because she's in her right mind in your book but in fact we're not even sure Seju was in her right mind or not or actually drunk out of her mind?

As I said - it's a common mistake that comes from not understanding someone's condition. That's why I said we can't judge Seju for acting angry and storming out, telling her to move on. But we can and should judge her for sleeping with that bartender. THAT was her main mistake.
We also can't judge Sumin because she wasn't herself at that time. A month is not nearly enough to deal with anything. Especially since she just got their bodies back and most likely just buried them. It was all fresh.

You're not even sure if she's concious and in her right mind or not when she was with that bartender and what was really there is just our own way of interpreting the scenes unless the author says so but you already tell us that we should judge her? That scene is unclear, you can say that alot of people are saying different scenerios about it and all of sudden you tell us to judge her? How negative it would be to think like that? It's like you come right to a scene where one person is hitting another person and without even thinking, you judge that person as a bad person, it might be even his fault all of that hitting happening but you still cant judge that person as a bad person, if you know what I meant.

So, to you, because Sumin is not in her right mind so she can do whatever she wants and we can not judge her but we need to judge Seju because she's in her right mind in your book but in fact we're not even sure Seju was in her right mind or not or actually drunk out of her mind?

Sumin made a very good point - Seju's guards wouldn't had let him in if Seju wasn't conscious. I believe she wanted it. And her, saying she felt like Sumin was always ready to leave her, made me think like she did that because of this feeling. Especially after she had no sex for a month and Sumin wasn't really responsive.

Sungji could lose mind without being drunk, why not Seju? :D (I'm referring to her kissing Dawoon.) :'D

Sumin made a very good point - Seju's guards wouldn't had let him in if Seju wasn't conscious. I believe she wanted it. And her, saying she felt like Sumin was always ready to leave her, made me think like she did that because of this feeling. Especially after she had no sex for a month and Sumin wasn't really responsive.

It'a an assumption again, no one knows for sure about that. And again, you only hear Sumin's side of that scene, how Sumin saw and looked at things, not sth that actually really happened, that means its words from someone who wasnt presented and when you're drunk, it doesnt mean you're in coma or sleep, you still walk, talk but out of your mind, so tell me how the bodyguard stops a person who's still walking but might needs support from the other person to walk in the house? He can assume they know each other. There, I just make an assumption to counter attack you, like I said, that scene is unclear and until the author really talk about it, judging Seju is totally not right if you dont judge Sumin

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Sumin made a very good point - Seju's guards wouldn't had let him in if Seju wasn't conscious. I believe she wanted it. And her, saying she felt like Sumin was always ready to leave her, made me think like she did that because of this feeling. Especially after she had no sex for a month and Sumin wasn't really responsive.

It'a an assumption again, no one knows for sure about that. And again, you only hear Sumin's side of that scene, how Sumin saw and looked at things, not sth that actually really happened, that means its words from someone who wasnt presented and when you're drunk, it doesnt mean you're in coma or sleep, you still walk, talk but out of your mind, so tell me how the bodyguard stops a person who's still talking but might needs support from the other person to walk in the house? He can assume they know each other. There, I just make an assumption to counter attack you, like I said, that scene is unclear and until the author really talk about it, judging Seju is totally not right.

Well, Sumin is the main character. No wonder story is focused on her and her side mostly. I don't expect it to change in the last 6 chapters. There's too much to tell yet.
Besides, if you're drunk and sleep with someone, it's still cheating. Unless you were raped, which is not the case here.

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Well, Sumin is the main character. No wonder story is focused on her and her side mostly. I don't expect it to change in the last 6 chapters. There's too much to tell yet.

I dont expect that, either but because she's the main character, it doesnt mean we only focus on her words and actions without looking at others, maybe her pov is clear but others are not so judging a character you dont have a clear pov is too soon, and that's why no one says anything about Sungji just yet, just so you know

Besides, if you're drunk and sleep with someone, it's still cheating. Unless you were raped, which is not the case here.

When did I ever say it's not a cheating, why are we here again? You're talking about judging, not about cheating or not.
It's clearly a cheating, it's clearly Seju's fault but I wont judge her. That's it.

In your life, you did a lot of terrible things but it doesnt make you bad person. I wont judge unless you dont fix it, and I personally think Seju did fix it

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Off-topic: Besides "hahaha", "hehehe", and "kekeke", what else do we have?

Sungji could lose mind without being drunk, why not Seju? :D (I'm referring to her kissing Dawoon)

"They had broken up when she was with Dawoon"
"Sumin cheated first"
"She had the right cause she is lost and confused and sad"

Nah, lets not get on that endless circle again

Off-topic: Besides "hahaha", "hehehe", and "kekeke", what else do we have?

"kkkkk", used alot in korea cause it's from this "ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ", means laughing in korea

How could one possibly be a Sungji hater? lol

I dofor real i do. But quitely hating her. she is so boring! Human nature is amazing and ppl is imperfect, So i don't trust characters being so perfect. I'm mexican so i watched soap operas since baby, this storyline is sooo mexican soap opera. But i've never seen a character like Seju, she is amazing! Tbh sumin doesn't deserve such complicated and real woman like Seju. So endgame should be suminxsungji because: easy.

Off-topic: Besides "hahaha", "hehehe", and "kekeke", what else do we have?

"kkkkk", used alot in korea cause it's from this "ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ", means laughing in korea

I have found this:

Japanese: kukuku
English/French: hahaha
Spanish: jajaja
Korean: kekeke / kkk
Chinese: hehehe
German: hihihi

xD

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yoonie0104

Disclaimer: any of the following are mere predictions and thoughts, so should not be taken that seriously, and ah.. they may appear biased, if you are seeking pure objectivity .. skip this

let's get this started, about what ending do I not find surprising:

I find that Sumin ending up with Seju very feasible since the writer are slowly fracturing Sungji and Sumin bond.. every chapter you see a bit of the fracture, Sumin slightly withdrawn, and Sungji slowly figuring out more about SejuXSumin deeper connection that surpasses the one she has with Sumin..
if you go to the bed talk, Sungji admits her defeat in separating them, and could not say a thing back to Seju when she questions Sungji's feelings.. and the way its going now Sungji comments about Sumin's face to Seju (while funny, it was weird.. even Seju was shocked in ch77).. and then Sumin does the same about Sungji's face.. more obviously in the last chapter's bubble thought.

you know from arc3, the Dawoon period, Sungji can't say anything she doesn't mean.. no wonder she did not say anything about love.. in a matter of fact she only said it in ch38.

The author is not doing anything in fixing the trust issues between Sumin and Sungji, yet making Seju and Sumin grow considerably closer than they ever been in 10 years.

in case something happened to Sumin, Seju could be there again, this time to prove once and foremost their bond in front of both girls..

in case Nami appears again, I know who will she be meeting, and I know who she is interested in.. in ch50, Nami did not only tests Sumin feelings to Seju BUT also how Sumin feels about Nami sleeping with one of her ex's, (Sumin's friendship to Nami)

Nami by the way went too far to get Sungji's number from Choi Goen (the guy she doesn't like ) when she could've asked Sumin instead, but she did not! (look ch 65 their conversation was quite long)
....
the way it seems to me, that it is normal that TG did not work in some areas yet, because they aren't meant to be fixed to begin with.
so if the ending was actually Seju out, and Sumin X Sungji married, then they could have made both Seju and Sumin slowly grow independent of each other. even if Seju became safe and a mere family and friend to Sumin, Sungji will never be secured in that regard. Seju's comment in ch79 she says: "I'm not the type of person to play fair with this relationship"..Seju says it clearly, I am still going after Sumin and you gotta let me stay with her because I love her more than you ever did, and that's why I am being mean to you.
...
bottom line, there are so many roads to take us to SuminXSeju while giving Sungji a good, and justified ending that makes her happy and loved, the same however doesn't apply to Seju when SuminX Sungji end together. So if the author does make Seju happy without being with Sumin, they will shock me, but I do not mind surprises.. + the banner thing, I have all arcs banner if you wanna take a look at them, there is a striking similarity of how the girls look/ positioned and the content of the arc itself

I could go on and on, about what Sungji said in ch54 and it's relation to ch79.. but you already know my opinion on that one
I forgot about the new team leader and if it has any effect on the story
How does the bartender incident play in any of this, I do not know.

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