This is why i started giving counterpoints. I disagreed with this. Nora was attacking Sumin from a comment you made which lead into the rest.

Huh? I dont think that's an attack though. She's (I hope she is a she) merely making a point which I find reasonable. Sumin's actions were questionable back then and until now. Uhm, this is not saying she's good or bad or selfish or anything. I dont see how this is an attack though @@. She's questioning Sumin's actions, not judging her actions and casting it down to good or bad

now, let's say Sumin was on her way to the hotel while the new character was about to do something to Seju.. how would she enter the room in the first place ! are not hotel rooms always locked automatically as you close em ?

Well, let's say even if Sumin magically appears, how the heck she is going to rescue Seju if that girl is indeed attacking her? =)))))))) Sumin is no martial art girl and that girl might be a skilled assassin =)))))). They both should be dead if Sumin 'luckily' appears on spot on time =)))))). I don't think there would be any attacks though, the scene just tells us that girl is following Seju, that's all.

Well, let's say even if Sumin magically appears, how the heck she is going to rescue Seju if that girl is indeed attacking her? =)))))))) Sumin is no martial art girl and that girl might be a skilled assassin =)))))). They both should be dead if Sumin 'luckily' appears on spot on time =)))))). I don't think there would be any attacks though, the scene just tells us that girl is following Seju, that's all.

what's up with Team Gaji shoving this girl as a cliff hanger for the third time already XD !!
the Manhwa is only 10 chapter away from its finale, so if she wants to attack Seju, she needs to do it real quick

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(but I am indeed a she who likes another she)

This is why i started giving counterpoints. I disagreed with this. Nora was attacking Sumin from a comment you made which lead into the rest.

Huh? I dont think that's an attack though. She's (I hope she is a she) merely making a point which I find reasonable. Sumin's actions were questionable back then and until now. Uhm, this is not saying she's good or bad or selfish or anything. I dont see how this is an attack though @@. She's questioning Sumin's actions, not judging her actions and casting it down to good or bad

Attacking was the wrong word. I disagreed with her opinion and made some counterpoints.

You are pushing the ball to someone that's not you. I personally think you're the one who started the whole thing, no offense. She makes a very reasonable observation but you attack back at her though with your own way of interpreting her words.

Well, let's say even if Sumin magically appears, how the heck she is going to rescue Seju if that girl is indeed attacking her? =)))))))) Sumin is no martial art girl and that girl might be a skilled assassin =)))))). They both should be dead if Sumin 'luckily' appears on spot on time =)))))). I don't think there would be any attacks though, the scene just tells us that girl is following Seju, that's all.

what's up with Team Gaji shoving this girl as a cliff hanger for the third time already XD !!
the Manhwa is only 10 chapter away from its finale, so if she wants to attack Seju, she needs to do it real quick

.....
(but I am indeed a she who likes another she)

Ohhh, nice, no wonder you're so investing on this story :). Tbh, its nice to know your people's opinion on this matter. After all, you could connect with them in some level.
And yeah, if the June thing is right then about 10 chaps max till the end, so yes it's about time the threat of sth-happens-to-Seju should happen for real to solve other problems. But with 10 chaps how could they shove Dawoon, lawyer, SejuxSumin's past love, SungjixSumin's current love in them? Especially when sex scenes take up more than half of one chapter @@

Ohhh, nice, no wonder you're so investing on this story :). Tbh, its nice to know your people's opinion on this matter. After all, you could connect with them in some level.
And yeah, if the June thing is right then about 10 chaps max till the end, so yes it's about time the threat of sth-happens-to-Seju should happen for real to solve other problems. But with 10 chaps how could they shove Dawoon, lawyer, SejuxSumin's past love, SungjixSumin's current love in them? Especially when sex scenes take up more than half of one chapter @@

it is the first Yuri that I've ever read, could not stop thinking about it. and I have seen many movies and novels about GL, yet mostly they deal with figuring out sexual orientation (boooooring ) or some school girls having sex .. mmm and a girl who is married/ engaged who leaves her companion after she finds the vagina that changed her life ! (very insulting)
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for once, sexual orientation issues are dealt with as a given thing in this manhwa and they jump to the real deal, makes it absolutely enjoyable. there are some stuff that make me say for sure that Team Gaji are in fact both queer ladies, how love scenes are illustrated and also the great understanding of how power dynamics play rolls in a lesbian relationship accompanied by guilt and obsession (woman X Woman relationships are very emotionally driven and yes, the fact that a cheating happened with a man is waaaaaay worse than if with a lady .. I know it is a double standard thing, but it can't be helped .. so this thing could add to why Sumin was totally unforgiven )

the scene where Sumin throws up after using the strap-on brings me a very real memory.. and when she does not allow any body to top her unless she is trusting and loving the other person (are so realistically understood)
indeed, this can only be written/ illustrated by a person who is a female queer
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I agree with you regarding the long love scenes and their contribution to the story.. but can't tell for sure until we finish.. since I've seen how some chapters contain panels that can only be understood 18 chapters later or so.

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Nora89:
Nice, at least with your point of view, I can more tolerate towards Sumin when she's holding grudge she has for Seju for 10 years long torturing each other without thinking of forgiving. I've never met anyone who could hatred someone that long
But in your opinion, does Seju deserve to be forgiven much earlier than 10 years? From her pov, I totally understand why she did what she did for the past 10 years to keep Sumin close. Its wrong but understandable. Uhm, I ask this cause to me, she deserves a second chance, a chance to redeem herself and be forgiven but I'm not quite sure since she's indeed wrong in some ways but its not to the point where there is no turning back or forgiveness is no longer a question, I still think she's just blinded by love and would do anything for that love, even losing her pride and dignity. However, you guys might think differently and I might not relate well enough. After all, in real life, I believe in forgiveness and second chance, that's just how I really am, even a murderer deserve a second chance, maybe that's why I'm looking forwards to Seju's fate alot
Oh, btw, this is just my observation but this new girl is very well-drawn which might mean she's not just a mere assassin, appearing a little bit then disappear. The employees in Seju's company or Seju's other brothers are not meticulously drawn cause they're irrelevant. This new girl's drawing is as good as Dawoon, Nami and even the three main characters, very detailed and sharp. No one would draw a simple assassin this much just to say one sentence "this is room service", get inside, get the job done and leave the story, she should be more than just that

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Imo Seju have long forgotten her pride and dignity for Sumin. I mean, for all the things Sumin did, she was all ok about it. She was willing to become Sumin's dog for the longest time. And i understand her because as she said, Sumin was the only person in the world who loved her.

Seju deserves a second chance. And imo, maybe Sumin just deliberately didn't forgive her so she can do whatever she wants to Seju and keep her by her side at the same time. Again imo, she didn't really want to lose Seju at all.

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This my own plausible theory of wdtfs so far.

I put my coin on Seju as end game bwahahahaha...
Let say the table has turned around now, SuminxSungji is only about sex, just like the beginning of WDTFS (*cough SejuxSumin). I don't know, I've felt just wrong and it won't turn out good. Sumin is back to smoke too...

But well if I'm wrong at least the author already confirmed that Seju won't be dying so it's still fine for me. Just hoping her get happy ending.

Let's not get our hopes high :) just like nora, i just want a justifiable ending.

now, let's say Sumin was on her way to the hotel while the new character was about to do something to Seju.. how would she enter the room in the first place ! are not hotel rooms always locked automatically as you close em ?

She breaks the door (as well as her leg) with one kick. lol

Well, let's say even if Sumin magically appears, how the heck she is going to rescue Seju if that girl is indeed attacking her? =)))))))) Sumin is no martial art girl and that girl might be a skilled assassin =)))))). They both should be dead if Sumin 'luckily' appears on spot on time =)))))). I don't think there would be any attacks though, the scene just tells us that girl is following Seju, that's all.

Sumin is going to take the bullet for Seju (she doesn't want to save Seju though, she just tries to avoid bullet herself, but things go wrong). lol

Sumin is going to take the bullet for Seju (she doesn't want to save Seju though, she just tries to avoid bullet herself, but things go wrong). lol

Damn, when I read the first part, I thought you're serious and really go 'Huh? Sumin would never be that selfless to Seju, Seju could totally do that for Sumin but not the other way around' and I laugh out loud at the second part =)))))))), nah, she's not that fast to avoid the bullet, she might trip herself and effectively takes the bullet

its a possibility that Sumin might save Seju from whatever attacks lol the assassin lady has the same stature as Sumin. so it wont be hard for her to defend Seju.This manhwa might be a tearjerker in the end. I always criticised Sumin for her selfish actions but nobody deserve to die in the manhwa.

I still don't get why the fb posters put all the blame to Seju? Did they read the manhwa? nobody is to blame for how things turned out for Sumin and Seju. they both chose to have a f*cked up relationship. but still Seju and Sumin just really have a deep emotional connection with each other that even the author have a hard time severing their ties to each other lol

and I don't know why the writer of WDTFS just keep writing mushy scenes of SuminxSungji. Its no wonder why their relationship feel superficial or shallow. I know Sumin is the type of person who wants to keep everything to herself but Sungji is the perfect person to share her pain with. so why don't the author try to deepen their emotional connection instead of showing how horny they are when they're alone and they should stop portraying Sungji as a person who won't pressure or give demands to their gf because how the f*ck will their relationship grow?

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yoonie0104

see, the thing with Sumin is not a mere cheating, the whole thing is crazy bad:
- first she blamed subconsciously Seju - or her family - for what happened to her parents,
- the timing (right after her parents death) she caught her (only person she've got) in the bed with someone else "A MAN" ..

--> timing and pre-existed situation also played big role, add to that how her brother scarred Sumin who almost died..

now it is not about cheating it is fear and anger, yet she misses her old life with Seju and comes back to her bed but so scared of being hurt by her ever again and on her own life.

(this is why the situation is so complex, Sumin was willing to give the red head another chance but not Seju, if you would look at their conversation before their break up (ch33) and also during the vacation (ch32))

also look at Sumin self monologue in ch 50, she blames the moleguy for her dysfunctional relationship with Seju.. Sumin would have been probably able to forgive Seju if that guy did not forever scare the shit out of them.

Seju at the hospital makes an oath to wait for Sumin till the day she dies, I believe somehow, Sumin felt it was her right to torment Seju as well.. and Seju accepts it as she did not know why her brother scarred Summin (she assumed that he did it bcz they are dating not bcz they broke up) from their talk at the hospital..
---> both of them are forever scared of being together. even Seju is scared of being with Sumin too.

Sumin is as well is scared from losing Seju .. till today, she never ever stopped thinking about her even when she is with Sungji. in ch54 (look at her face when she knows that Seju was sick, she then almost leaves the bed before Sungji stops her), and you know, in chapter 72, I am certain that the first flashback was in Sumin's head that was triggered by Sungji being worried.
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so indeed this is not interesting because it is a GL story but because it is a very messy story that deals with so many conflicting feelings. we could understand each character but never anticipate their next move.
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about the new girl, well, somehow Team Gaji really do not draw men beautifully hehehe.. they always creat stunning ladies. example of least important yet gorgeous ladies will be: Nammi's girl (Bong Uri), Dawoon's ex (Camille), Summin ex (silver hair lady in the bath top, and also the perfume shop )

we can not judge how persistent the character will be in the story from how well she is illustrated.. take it as a general case: Team Gaji care less about making their Male characters look slick.

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now, this is a very long post.. but I hope I did not confuse u with it.

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now, let's say Sumin was on her way to the hotel while the new character was about to do something to Seju.. how would she enter the room in the first place ! are not hotel rooms always locked automatically as you close em ?

She breaks the door (as well as her leg) with one kick. lol

Well, let's say even if Sumin magically appears, how the heck she is going to rescue Seju if that girl is indeed attacking her? =)))))))) Sumin is no martial art girl and that girl might be a skilled assassin =)))))). They both should be dead if Sumin 'luckily' appears on spot on time =)))))). I don't think there would be any attacks though, the scene just tells us that girl is following Seju, that's all.

Sumin is going to take the bullet for Seju (she doesn't want to save Seju though, she just tries to avoid bullet herself, but things go wrong). lol

hehehe, cracked me up!.. what could be more fun than three girls fighting in a hotel room (and of course Sumin broken leg)
but Sumin is over powered is some aspects.. will she kill the assassin by her magical fingers !? XD

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yoonie0104

see, the thing with Sumin is not a mere cheating, the whole thing is crazy bad:
- first she blamed subconsciously Seju - or her family - for what happened to her parents,
- the timing (right after her parents death) she caught her (only person she've got) in the bed with someone else "A MAN" ..

--> timing and pre-existed situation also played big role, add to that how her brother scarred Sumin who almost died..

now it is not about cheating it is fear and anger, yet she misses her old life with Seju and comes back to her bed but so scared of being hurt by her ever again and on her own life.

(this is why the situation is so complex, Sumin was willing to give the red head another chance but not Seju, if you would look at their conversation before their break up (ch33) and also during the vacation (ch32))

also look at Sumin self monologue in ch 50, she blames the moleguy for her dysfunctional relationship with Seju.. Sumin would have been probably able to forgive Seju if that guy did not forever scare the shit out of them.

Seju at the hospital makes an oath to wait for Sumin till the day she dies, I believe somehow, Sumin felt it was her right to torment Seju as well.. and Seju accepts it as she did not know why her brother scarred Summin (she assumed that he did it bcz they are dating not bcz they broke up) from their talk at the hospital..
---> both of them are forever scared of being together. even Seju is scared of being with Sumin too.

Sumin is as well is scared from losing Seju .. till today, she never ever stopped thinking about her even when she is with Sungji. in ch54 (look at her face when she knows that Seju was sick, she then almost leaves the bed before Sungji stops her), and you know, in chapter 72, I am certain that the first flashback was in Sumin's head that was triggered by Sungji being worried.
......
so indeed this is not interesting because it is a GL story but because it is a very messy story that deals with so many conflicting feelings. we could understand each character but never anticipate their next move.
......
about the new girl, well, somehow Team Gaji really do not draw men beautifully hehehe.. they always creat stunning ladies. example of least important yet gorgeous ladies will be: Nammi's girl (Bong Uri), Dawoon's ex (Camille), Summin ex (silver hair lady in the bath top, and also the perfume shop )

we can not judge how persistent the character will be in the story from how well she is illustrated.. take it as a general case: Team Gaji care less about making their Male characters look slick.

......

now, this is a very long post.. but I hope I did not confuse u with it.

Lol Nora89 i admire how you write this long. You got amazing insights!

Lol Nora89 i admire how you write this long. You got amazing insights!

I do not know what to do with my life when June ends :(

Lol Nora89 i admire how you write this long. You got amazing insights!

I do not know what to do with my life when June ends :(

Aww! Read it over and over again until the effect wears off.. Lol (that always works for me :)We all feel that way when are too much attach to something.

I felt like that last year too. Eventually it goes away. Also find new yuri stories to follow lol.

I felt like that last year too. Eventually it goes away. Also find new yuri stories to follow lol.

I would love to see team Gaji's next story after they have gained some experience with their story telling
I read somewhere that the writer wishes to get this work animated.

( I do not want to ever start reading something that is not completed.. waiting for updates kills me )
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back to the story, u know that if the tomboy is actually is an assassin, this will be the first time ever that Sumin will experience the possibility of losing Seju.
interesting !

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I felt like that last year too. Eventually it goes away. Also find new yuri stories to follow lol.

I would love to see team Gaji's next story after they have gained some experience with their story telling
I read somewhere that the writer wishes to get this work animated.

( I do not want to ever start reading something that is not completed.. waiting for updates kills me )
..........
back to the story, u know that if the tomboy is actually is an assassin, this will be the first time ever that Sumin will experience the possibility of losing Seju.
interesting !

If that will happen, i can only imagine! Looking forward to Sumin's actions, feelings and all!

Nora89
No, your post is not long at all comparing to Faylicia 's. xD

( I do not want to ever start reading something that is not completed.. waiting for updates kills me )

I like cliffhangers, so usually I prefer on-going stories more. But, yeah, bi-monthly update like Citrus is a problem for me too.

Citrus has become monthly though. Also getting anime, most probably airing in Fall season of 2017

So you found the translation online I guess..

Citrus has become monthly though. Also getting anime, most probably airing in Fall season of 2017

Ah, I didn't know about that. I did hear about it getting anime. Citrus characters look beautiful enough to have an anime adaptation, but I'm not so sure about the storyline. I stopped reading it at around chapter 15 (?) as the update was bi-monthly and the manga kinda started getting boring as well. I don't remember the detail, but was there a valid reason for Mei (?) to be that emotionless, and was there a reason for yuzu (?) (whatever their name are) to be in love with Mei? You don't fall for someone for a reason, but Mei is weird enough to make make me wonder, what's her charm?(sorry, it's off-topic. wdtfs is heading to an end; the thread will soon die. Maybe a little off-topic can make use of the thread to its fullest?)

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It has gotten better since the last 4 chapters. Mei is showing more emotions, but overall it still feel like it's going in cycles. I'd say it's average, but readable. And I kinda like the latest intimate moments between Yuzu and Mei.
No explanation why Yuzu loves Mei so much ( I guess she is simply her type) but there is an explanation why Mei is like that since the first chapters.

Tbh I feel like Korean manhwas are gaining more and more ground over mangas. Japanese need to change some patterns in their storytelling imo. Not for all manga, but mostly for romance. This genre needs more realism imo. And mangas use very specific types of characters a lot. The shy one, the cold one etc (tsundere, Kuundere etc)

Wdtfs was indeed unique, but they messed up in the third arc. Imo it would be better if the story stayed as short as they originally planned it to be. Or make the story around Sumin and Syngji relationship. Now everytime they appear, it is to have sex. How is that good writing for a main couple. And only Seju keeps the story going.

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