i love messy shit like this

I won't say the doujin is bad cause it hurt my feelings like other people here but I'll say I really dislike the logic used here especially because it's not the first time. It's NOT okay for someone to cheat because they can't control themselves. If it's actually SO bad that you're willing to cheat on a SO is it really that much harder to straight up ask them "Hey, I really need it like right now"?

I won't say the doujin is bad cause it hurt my feelings like other people here...

I think most people say it's bad because it's confusingly written, poorly structured, and the way the pages are laid out really doesn't help. Certainly that's why I say it.

I do agree that the reasoning is fucked up though, and I'd call it a writing flaw that the narrative doesn't have an "opinion", so to speak, about it.

tbf the author was intending to hurt people's feelings so honestly this is a resounding success for her etc

also i think the work doesn't really have to have an opinion on it...? like the story and the setting aren't set up to moralise; it's like looking to good old Shuninta's Feelings for a moral core and not just 'haha wow people are fucked'

(i do think the art is definitely a little weird and muddy but the plot not being clear might be the fault of my translation to some extent.)

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nah Syuko's into Sae (though we don't know their relationship status at this point)

tbh I think people who say it's confusing and don't get it just don't know the source material? it's definitely not easily accessible if you don't but yeah

Please don't use the "you have to know the source material!" crap when the characters are so ridiculously out of character that it literally doesn't matter.

Was that hand inside her boob at page #3?

nah Syuko's into Sae (though we don't know their relationship status at this point)

tbh I think people who say it's confusing and don't get it just don't know the source material? it's definitely not easily accessible if you don't but yeah

Please don't use the "you have to know the source material!" crap when the characters are so ridiculously out of character that it literally doesn't matter.

totally ic syuko and kanade and minami being an unsympathetic ineffective wreck is pretty canon-accurate

nah Syuko's into Sae (though we don't know their relationship status at this point)

tbh I think people who say it's confusing and don't get it just don't know the source material? it's definitely not easily accessible if you don't but yeah

Please don't use the "you have to know the source material!" crap when the characters are so ridiculously out of character that it literally doesn't matter.

totally ic syuko and kanade and minami being an unsympathetic ineffective wreck is pretty canon-accurate

Minami's entire character is being a big sister to others as she is to her own little brother. She's a hard worker who's good at most of what she does and is the type to keep trying if she "loses." She's very competitive and up beat and generally a nice person. And, I'd like to add, her getting paired with Hajime to begin with is absolutely silly when they've literally had no official material with each other, be it through the mobage or anime.

Kanade is a giant tease. Whether it's to you (the Producer) or characters she's friends with (like Mika). There was a point (in an SS event) where Asuka went on and basically accused her of being loose and she got really upset about this.

Syuko's just a lazy, independent, loser who got kicked out of her own home.

I'm not saying that I'm expecting 100% in character (because at the end of the day it's a freaking porn doujin) stuff but this level of out of characterness is on a whole nother level and to try to use their character to excuse this doujin is absolutely silly.

last edited at Mar 3, 2017 4:42AM

This Doujin is fucking Garbage. Boring sex, It try's to have a "Plot" and fail's miserably at it, The "Invite yourself over for a threesome" line is what made this go from a 2 to a 0. Don't recommend this to anyone.

ah ah ah, i was curious about the comments about this, and the first is more than enough, but i'm kinder and i give 2 to this

Minami's entire character is being a big sister to others as she is to her own little brother. She's a hard worker who's good at most of what she does and is the type to keep trying if she "loses." She's very competitive and up beat and generally a nice person. And, I'd like to add, her getting paired with Hajime to begin with is absolutely silly when they've literally had no official material with each other, be it through the mobage or anime.

okay to be fair, knowing how original mobamas works, I bet they had like one card where Hajime casually references having talked to Minami but like-- yeah that really threw me off too. I guess pre-anime I dunno who you'd ship Minami with?

(a casual pixiv glance shows there's multiple HajiMina yuri doujins and a fair amount of art (even from key artists like Bocha!), so I'm guessing it's an actually supported ship from the early days of the game like RyoAi and ChinaYui that doesn't get much representation any more due to demographic change and one of them being unvoiced. learn something new about deremas every day!)

Kanade is a giant tease. Whether it's to you (the Producer) or characters she's friends with (like Mika). There was a point (in an SS event) where Asuka went on and basically accused her of being loose and she got really upset about this.

tbf this doujin is like, even pre-anime so i don't think it's toooo fair to bring up later SS characterisation? this doujin's back from when Kanade goes on rants about how mirrors project illusions and propagate a false version of yourself and boy i miss Slightly Deranged Kanade

also i mean... outside of the anime canon deremas kind of has the whole issue with heteronormativity so i think it's fair for artists to ignore some stuff that's clearly meant to be like 'hey look how this girl is docile!'.

Syuko's just a lazy, independent, loser who got kicked out of her own home.

oh c'mon, 'hedonistic gay trash' is totally fine for syu. she lived on the streets for like half a year and probably she's just happy to get away from her home life where she couldn't be openly The Big Gay

I'm not saying that I'm expecting 100% in character (because at the end of the day it's a freaking porn doujin) stuff but this level of out of characterness is on a whole nother level and to try to use their character to excuse this doujin is absolutely silly.

--honestly i meant more people being like 'i couldn't follow the characters'? like if you don't know who Sae is then Syuko's whole deal here doesn't make sense

last edited at Mar 3, 2017 3:54PM

This is trash, I mean the characters are all messed up. It was a turn on, though, the sex scenes were hot and well played.

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I won't say the doujin is bad cause it hurt my feelings like other people here but I'll say I really dislike the logic used here especially because it's not the first time. It's NOT okay for someone to cheat because they can't control themselves. If it's actually SO bad that you're willing to cheat on a SO is it really that much harder to straight up ask them "Hey, I really need it like right now"?

You can't say this with that icon. Poor Kase :'c when Kase get to the end with Yamada all cry for her victory
Joking apart, I'm with you in that way of think. If you are going out with someone and can't say this stuff, it's a little weird, isn't it? It's just an absurd excuse

This is trash, I mean the characters are all messed up. It was a turn on, though, the sex scenes were hot and well played.

I agree totally with you, even when that thing with the ice-cream emmmm I won't never put ice-cream here, that will end pretty BADLY

This Doujin is fucking Garbage. Boring sex, It try's to have a "Plot" and fail's miserably at it, The "Invite yourself over for a threesome" line is what made this go from a 2 to a 0. Don't recommend this to anyone.

+1

wait what? at first I didn't get it in the middle I got then and the last part was all jumbled up to me again

What does it mean "to be continued"?

If the story was stretched out and simplified then it would've made more sense. The art is fine (don't know why everyone complains when every artist draws differently...). The story did feel like all of it was compressed into a limited amount of pages, when it could've easily filled like 40+ pages of plot. The only thing that confused me were the characters, as in everyone would mention names and I didn't know who the heck they were talking to. But I wouldn't mind reading the continuation.

Damn I hate that cheating part, she confessed then she decides to fuck a guy, and here I am thinking it was a girl, and not to mention she's underage and with someone older, I hate bullshits like that just too stupid imo