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You were talking that top/bottom implied Trust. Which means that not being a top shows that you are not trustable in your partner's eyes.
nah, I edited the post above. it is not necessarily the case, but at least in some cases.. the Top would find it extremely hard and embarrassing to be topped by another person.. letting off control is not about insult or pride.. it's just u have to reveal much more about yourself when you are a bottom.
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it's just u have to reveal much more about yourself when you are a bottom
I hope I could create a survey on this above statement. xD
it's just u have to reveal much more about yourself when you are a bottom
I hope I could create a survey on this above statement. xD
I was in a fairly romantic mood yesterday.. and today all what I was talking about was sex XD
yoonie0104
But dont hate Sumin though :), they might think Sumin doesnt deserve that love since she's selfish but Seju's also selfish =)))), except Sungji, the angel =)))). Teampink fans mostly love Seju more, like Sumin enough :) or like them both, not really hate Sumin :), and in fact, I also dont hate her that much =)))), just dont like her most among all three =))), if I hate her, I could've wish for SejuxSungji both leave her =)))))))
I was okay with Sumin until ch49, I wanted to bitch slap her !
the moment she mentioned Seju liking to sleep with others.. I wanted to seriously slap her!!.. it was Sumin who fingering Sungji in the office while Seju proving another thing with a famous model on top of her !
Nora, you know, I have skipped reading a lot of your comments lately because I were lazy to recall things you were giving a hint about. For example, this one: "thus came the famous comment in ch70 about having Sumin". I hoped that you wrote that thing you called "a famous ..." down instead. I just don't recall what it is, haven't yet even now. My bad. m(_ _ )m
Nora, you know, I have skipped reading a lot of your comments lately because I were lazy to recall things you were giving a hint about. For example, this one: "thus came the famous comment in ch70 about having Sumin". I hoped that you wrote that thing you called "a famous ..." down instead. I just don't recall what it is, haven't yet even now. My bad. m(_ _ )m
ah, my comments tend to be ridiculously long, I do not blame you.
what I meant is, in ch68-70 it was Sumin and Sungji first having sex after Sungji caught Sumin and Seju together.
Sungji insisted on topping Sumin..
and said her comment: " Ms. Seong, I want to have you, If I can engrave my name on you, I want to.. am I being greedy ?"
it has something to do with how Seju looked at her that night, body language wise, Seju was on top, biting Sumin's lips and looking in Sungji's eyes. it says clearly: she is mine
I never found such comments famous though. xD
I never found such comments famous though. xD
hehehe I thought it was because I kept mentioning that particular one a lot.
Nora, with the amount of investments you did for the story, I sincerely hope this story's ending will be like what you expect =))))), no matter how shocking or morally wrong it could be =)))))). Cause that would be a big disappointment and suck big time if digging so much, loving the story so much like you but just one ending that be ruining everything you've been so invested into =))))).
I sincerely admire your memories of all the wdtfs chaps and how you engaged and earnestly talked about it in every freaking detail :).
To be honest, I don't mind being shocked, every chapter surprises me anyways, if it will have another ending than the one in my mind, I will probably still love the story.. however, I still believe that Team Gaji showed us the ending implicitly in the very beginning.
Now now.. I think I have much more fun discussing lesbian drama than politics and some weird theology .
Could've been nicer if there were more readers like you who love the story for its narrative instead of being influenced be the ending =))))), most of readers(me included) would found it hard to reread the story if one of the favorite characters didnt get the fair ending, like in this case the chance of bad ending for Seju is pretty high :).
yoonie0104
But dont hate Sumin though :), they might think Sumin doesnt deserve that love since she's selfish but Seju's also selfish =)))), except Sungji, the angel =)))). Teampink fans mostly love Seju more, like Sumin enough :) or like them both, not really hate Sumin :), and in fact, I also dont hate her that much =)))), just dont like her most among all three =))), if I hate her, I could've wish for SejuxSungji both leave her =)))))))
I was okay with Sumin until ch49, I wanted to bitch slap her !
the moment she mentioned Seju liking to sleep with others.. I wanted to seriously slap her!!.. it was Sumin who fingering Sungji in the office while Seju proving another thing with a famous model on top of her !
Oh, believe me, I'm just like you, after chap 49, I still want to slap her =)))), and my favorism for her went downhill since then =))))). But I dont want to take away the happiness she has been feeling lately, I dont hate her that much :), after all the hardships, I guess she at least deserves some happiness but I still want her to learn lesson about Seju's existence in her life or pay a prize for her wrong-doings, or at least realize despite all the psycho actions she has done, its still a Seju who loves her with all her heart, who lets her do everything she wants from the beginning till this moment, who is always beside her, who would never leave her alone. They might not be together in the end but I hope Sumin could realize this one day :)
Would it be so shocking and unbelievable if Sumin and Seju end up together?
I wouldn't be. They have loved each other for sooo long. Even if the relationship wasn't healthy for 10 years and used each other, love was still there. Now that Sumin stopped blaming her or hating her and recognising their own feelings for each other, second chance is not so impossible.
Well, i wont argue, we all view things differently.
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yoonie0104
don't make me go romantic again XD
in ch79 (the last one).. I believe that Seju who relives the assault in her dreams went to the sleeping Sumin not only to calm herself down, but also to check if she is alright.. after all, the assassin might hurt Sumin too.
(what an intense scene.. grabbing her sheets and making sure she is alright too without waking her up)
Sumin knows it, in ch50 she knows in her heart that the only one who is willing to hold her even if she is an empty shell is going to be Seju.
why did she choose to let go all of this after all this time now, is what I am not sure of. (and it is not the magical bond that she just discovered with Sungji.. - in case of any doubts, ch 51 conversation and inner thoughts are quite telling)
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I would be, cuz I've taken into account the fact that there are only a few chapters left.
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I would be, cuz I've taken into account the fact that there are only a few chapters left.
well, 6 chapters ago, the story seemed so different compared to how it is now.. another 6 chapter means around 78 pages of the the hot stuff
I would be, cuz I've taken into account the fact that there are only a few chapters left.
well, 6 chapters ago, the story seemed so different compared to how it is now.. another 6 chapter means around 78 pages of the the hot stuff
A couple of chapters might do the talking, settle the differences. I don't have high hopes, just not giving up the possibility.
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Would it be so shocking and unbelievable if Sumin and Seju end up together?
I wouldn't be. They have loved each other for sooo long. Even if the relationship wasn't healthy for 10 years and used each other, love was still there. Now that Sumin stopped blaming her or hating her and recognising their own feelings for each other, second chance is not so impossible.
Well, i wont argue, we all view things differently.
Yeah, I also agree with you if there is no Sungji :). Where would we put Sungji now if SejuxSumin to be together again? Not that I want to break this symbolism love, really, if they could have a second chance, their love could've been quite legendary :), 17 years of ups and downs, growing up together, torturing each other, relying on each other and then finally back together. I would say if they could be together, their love could be really stood out among all the comics with easy love or teenage love or new love to forget the ex kind of love, but really, what about Sungji?
in ch79 (the last one).. I believe that Seju who relives the assault in her dreams went to the sleeping Sumin not only to calm herself down, but also to check if she is alright.. after all, the assassin might hurt Sumin too.
(what an intense scene.. grabbing her sheets and making sure she is alright too without waking her up)
Omg, I thought about this too, but didnt want to say it because it is too much of an assumption :). I'm waiting for more scenes to confirm it, that Seju's also afraid that she might lose Sumin, thanks to the assassin's warnings, we all know she doesnt really fear of death :). But this is just assumption, I'll wait for more :)
in ch79 (the last one).. I believe that Seju who relives the assault in her dreams went to the sleeping Sumin not only to calm herself down, but also to check if she is alright.. after all, the assassin might hurt Sumin too.
(what an intense scene.. grabbing her sheets and making sure she is alright too without waking her up)Omg, I thought about this too, but didnt want to say it because it is too much of an assumption :). I'm waiting for more scenes to confirm it, that Seju's also afraid that she might lose Sumin, thanks to the assassin's warnings, we all know she doesnt really fear of death :). But this is just assumption, I'll wait for more :)
well, Seju thinks that Sumin's scar happened because her family wanted to give SEJU a hard time (nothing about Saehyun cursing Sumin for breaking up with Seju) ch27
so now again, they are harassing Seju, and this time Sumin is explicitly targeted. I think Seju linked the two cases in that logic
(I hope I expressed this one well..)
Would it be so shocking and unbelievable if Sumin and Seju end up together?
I wouldn't be. They have loved each other for sooo long. Even if the relationship wasn't healthy for 10 years and used each other, love was still there. Now that Sumin stopped blaming her or hating her and recognising their own feelings for each other, second chance is not so impossible.
Well, i wont argue, we all view things differently.Yeah, I also agree with you if there is no Sungji :). Where would we put Sungji now if SejuxSumin to be together again? Not that I want to break this symbolism love, really, if they could have a second chance, their love could've been quite legendary :), 17 years of ups and downs, growing up together, torturing each other, relying on each other and then finally back together. I would say if they could be together, their love could be really stood out among all the comics with easy love or teenage love or new love to forget the ex kind of love, but really, what about Sungji?
About Sungji, you made me really think hard and i just couldn't come up with something. I don't want to assume, but she can have her own realisation, is her love for sumin enough? Im not saying that Seju's love is more than hers. Possibilities are, she can walk away, had a lesson learned about life and love, oh hell, they can compete till death lol
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so now again, they are harassing Seju, and this time Sumin is explicitly targeted. I think Seju linked the two cases in that logic
(I hope I expressed this one well..)
This is a rather good possibility. And really, the most frustrating thing about this story is there's no monologue. We are always guessing and assuming. We don't have any idea what they are thinking or what their actions mean, just like thjs one. Lol arrrgg
Would it be so shocking and unbelievable if Sumin and Seju end up together?
I wouldn't be. They have loved each other for sooo long. Even if the relationship wasn't healthy for 10 years and used each other, love was still there. Now that Sumin stopped blaming her or hating her and recognising their own feelings for each other, second chance is not so impossible.
Well, i wont argue, we all view things differently.Yeah, I also agree with you if there is no Sungji :). Where would we put Sungji now if SejuxSumin to be together again? Not that I want to break this symbolism love, really, if they could have a second chance, their love could've been quite legendary :), 17 years of ups and downs, growing up together, torturing each other, relying on each other and then finally back together. I would say if they could be together, their love could be really stood out among all the comics with easy love or teenage love or new love to forget the ex kind of love, but really, what about Sungji?
About Sungji, you made me really think hard and i just couldn't come up with something. I don't want to assume, but she can have her own realisation, is her love for sumin enough? Im not saying that Seju's love is more than hers. Possibilities are, she can walk away, had a lesson learned about life and love, oh hell, they can compete till death lol
The author has pushed this love triangle so much imo, with Seju having panic attacks in the latest chapter and relying more on Sumin while Sungji has a cool statement about this situation, talking about which kind of pairing is endgame now is just not fair for the one who left behind. I really really pray that if the author has pushed this much, she could come up with an ending which is good for all of them :). That's all I'm hoping for.
well, Seju thinks that Sumin's scar happened because her family wanted to give SEJU a hard time (nothing about Saehyun cursing Sumin for breaking up with Seju) ch27
so now again, they are harassing Seju, and this time Sumin is explicitly targeted. I think Seju linked the two cases in that logic
(I hope I expressed this one well..)
I understand you, dont worry :), but we only have one panic attack so far so it's hard to tell but your scenerio makes the possibility go higher a little bit =))))))). Such a shame that the previous night, we can only see Seju sweating but not react much. Let's wait and see then
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This is a rather good possibility. And really, the most frustrating thing about this story is there's no monologue. We are always guessing and assuming. We don't have any idea what they are thinking or what their actions mean, just like thjs one. Lol arrrgg
this is the sexiest part.. where we can discuss body language and non-verbal cues, then jump fro chapter to another so we appreciate every detail.
about the hypothesis.. and the "what if" Sungji decided to walk away on this drama,
either she learns a lesson about how irresponsible it is to fall in love with someone from the first sight specially if that person won't open up, sunk in her past and is your MANAGER who sleeps with your BOSS !.. or she learns nothing, but tries her way again with someone who has less baggage.. after all, she has a lot waiting for her signal.
(a lot for Sungji to learn.. )
...
in any case, if "her walking away" scenario does happen, I truly wish that the motive won't be pitying Seju, but for Sungji to find a better pure and healthy love as Nammi advised her before in ch65, only then she can maintain her good self.
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ah, just came into my mind,
now we already know that Seju wanted to interview personally only female applicants for the Team Leader's job.
is it possible that Sungji has mistaken the new team leader as a guy when in reality it is a she (a tomboy)
it make no sense after the scene in ch66 that she would hire a guy !
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Would it be so shocking and unbelievable if Sumin and Seju end up together?
I wouldn't be. They have loved each other for sooo long. Even if the relationship wasn't healthy for 10 years and used each other, love was still there. Now that Sumin stopped blaming her or hating her and recognising their own feelings for each other, second chance is not so impossible.
Well, i wont argue, we all view things differently.Yeah, I also agree with you if there is no Sungji :). Where would we put Sungji now if SejuxSumin to be together again? Not that I want to break this symbolism love, really, if they could have a second chance, their love could've been quite legendary :), 17 years of ups and downs, growing up together, torturing each other, relying on each other and then finally back together. I would say if they could be together, their love could be really stood out among all the comics with easy love or teenage love or new love to forget the ex kind of love, but really, what about Sungji?
Who is Sungji??Lol joke take her out of the picture, the story will still go on and have roller coaster of emotions..Take either Sumin or Seju, i don't think it will be as good..
Sungji's character impact to me is not as strong compared to Sumin and Seju(with both their positive and negative sides which make us love them, hate them and drive us crazy to the extent).
Sungji's character is made for us to like her, nothing more,nothing less. An angel as what others refer.
If we have SungjixSumin ending, then good, like this is all what we expected. If she doesn't end up with Sumin, then she can take all the lessons she have learnt and move on, still good.
But take SejuxSumin, everyone will go crazy from both fandom(love from shippers and hate from haters etc) or if they don't end up, there are many possibilities-could be tragic 99%, Seju will leave them alone1%, or could even end up as threesome or i dunno. My point is, whatever Seju×Sumin route is, they just give us so much unpredictable emotions. I'm not saying Sungji doesn't, but my opinion is, Seju and Sumin offered us more(than we could handle xD). This is all just my opinion.