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Ma Chérie discussion 22 Oct 12:45
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Loved the art in this!

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She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

Yes, because I don't get it.

Thanks for giving me company. Read that comment a few times wondering how I was missing something so "obvious".

A miller in the sense of grinding grains, and since you need grains for bread they're the perfect combination, a miller and a baker.

girlswhokiss
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joined Apr 5, 2023

Yay, it's here! The chapter where Diode goes full cat mode! Tanaka Ahiru's done, in my opinion, a great job of showing her slowly warming up to Terra (And there's something else I'd love to comment about but it's something that happens much later into the novel so I can't T_T) but also just how friendly Terra is, respecting her space and all. I don't know, there's just something so filled with love in this chapter.

I'd also like to add that they do have official heights in the manga! 143cm for Diode and 184cm for Terra

I'll be sharing the novel's prologue soon (but be aware that it'll give some background you wouldn't otherwise get from the manga at this point on Eda and Magiri) because its translation is pretty much done and I just need a second person's opinion on how much sense it makes. It's been going very slowly because I'm often too tired to do anything, but I've been making progress and I'm just excited to allow more people to enjoy this work! I love it so much.
The formatting is nowhere near "final" but the text itself should be fine and I'd appreciate some feedback if possible anyway.

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girlswhokiss
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Silly Ruka, you don't just lock eyes with a predator like that, get pounced!

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Yeah this was awesome.

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Aw the pien face she made at chapter 1 haha

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joined Apr 5, 2023

Are people still enjoying this? Because at this point it's just sunk cost fallacy that keeps me here

I'm still having fun!

Me too, I'm enjoying it lots and I like being teased like this :P

girlswhokiss
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I still love this

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Comfy

girlswhokiss
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People are confused why Misa acted this way after learning about what happened to Io. But when you understand that victim blaming is normalized in Japanese culture (again, I'm not saying it is exclusive to Japanese culture), it becomes more clear why Misa acted the way she did. However, it still does not justify her actions.

I don't know if this is the fault of my difficult expressing myself in English but you have misunderstood me.

Giving valid criticisms of a country or culture is not racist.

I'm not saying that's what is racist, because I don't agree with excusing and protecting sexism in cultures, or that just because it's coming from some "minority" then it's okay for them to be doing that... It's acting like it's an unique problem to them that bothered me a bit and I only mentioned racism because people (not you in special) will often, even if they aren't aware of it, be harsher on whatever they're criticizing on the basis of it being asian, or just not white, and act like it's inherent to them and not a problem that's created by an environment that allows it to grow, which happens everywhere in the world.

Also, just because it happens in other places, doesn't make it any less of a problem. Like I said, even though it happens in other places, the difference is that in many of these places, people actually listen to and sympathize with victims, instead of being dismissive and victim blaming like some people here.

And we literally think the same regarding it not being less of a problem. Again, I'm not saying we should excuse those things, that wasn't what I was trying to say at all. Just that rape culture isn't unique to them, even that way of acting isn't unique to them and you aren't saying this either... But exactly because it isn't unique that for me it doesn't make much sense to act like it's especially Japanese when it's just rape culture thriving more easily.
It wouldn't make sense for me to say that it's Brazilian culture to think that it's okay to rape women just because they were wearing shorts, that they should be quiet about it and blame them for it so I don't see why it'd be different when it comes to any other country.

girlswhokiss
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Every time someone bad happens in a manga somebody comes along like this to claim it's some kinda especially Japanese bad thing and they're pretty much always wrong. There's not really any country on earth that DOESN'T have rape culture, unfortunately, just as there's no country on earth without patriarchy.

Look last samurai, I'm not trying to hate on Japanese culture and I'm definitely not claiming it's an exclusively Japanese thing. I've lived in Japan for a few years and almost every woman I've talked to has experienced some kind of sexual harassment and says they will probably never report it due to the fear of being blamed or shamed. It was a culture shock for me as I came from a country where these things are actually taken seriously. Rape culture does exist in a lot of places but at least in many countries, it is acknowledged by the general public and the government as a shitty thing, and steps are being taken to combat it instead of just trying to shut women (and men) up.

You having lived there or not doesn't change the fact that talking as if it were (even if it wasn't your intention) an especially Japanese culture is a thing that happens too often and is packaged with racism. What you've described is what happens in multiple countries, including mine (Brazil) and in 1st world countries even if they claim to be "progressive". They'll always find a reason to blame the victim, be it clothing or a mere hand signal.
It's not Japanese culture, just rape culture.
I'm not trying to single you out, it's just something to have in mind.

Like everyone else Misa's reaction in this really surprised me, but like kinseijoshi I don't think that it's OOC. I'm really excited to see where this is going!

girlswhokiss
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Late, but trans fem and non-binary aren't exclusive and many non-binary people are trans fem. I don't play and just look at yuri art of ena and mizuki, but usually when they pull this "non-binary" card it's almost always about a trans fem.

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Haruna's chapter is still my favourite from this, it captures the feeling of growing up being the thing everyone warned you to stay away from and tried to hide from you because it's "bad" and how often some will try to deny being so themselves really well.

And really just the entire idea of watching yourself slowly turn into something you never expected to, how unfair it is that you're the one going through it while everyone else seems fine and are never going to be the thing, is very relatable. She was never going to be able to fit in, you can do everything you can to hide from your kids that those things exist, try to beat it out of them, but it'll never cease to exist and it'll only keep coming back.
Then your feelings slowly changing, until they become something "vile" in the eyes of an outsider, when for you it's just something natural that you need to survive. Although it's justified this time for there to be a fear of them because they seem to eat humans, the act of eating humans itself is not evil and Haruna's state at the end was like she was still stuck with things that are harmful for her being (wanting to conform) when the fish mindset is her natural. The fear when those changes started to happen, the loneliness of not being able to tell anyone about it and not being able to do a thing about it... But no matter what, there was no way of keeping the things that made her think she was safe (even if it was the sort of safety that comes from knowing what will happen) from being destroyed, even if she tried to hide it and control her instincts, she would have starved to death for the sake of others that wouldn't ever dare to give her the same amount of thought.
Even if this was caused by someone else, that's still punishing what could be seen as a victim.

Yeah puberty ruined my life

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I thought that she was a kangaroo at first

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What a comfy drawing.

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This chapter was incredibly cute!

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Gay as hell

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I think that this page way back on chapter 1 has a small mistranslation, Terra isn't saying that the besshu are in "the backs of four female spot-billed ducks" but that they were "on the back of the fourth (female) duckling"

カルガモの四女の背中

Maybe "On the back of the fourth spot-billed duck daughter!" or something like that would sound better, because I feel how I phrased it before is quite misleading. I forgot to change my post, sorry about that!

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Those two are so silly.
I'm still wondering what did this person quite a few pages back mean by this being an "AU of the author's gay furry porn comic" or something like that

It's on Dynasty too.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/fox_and_deer

So it really was just that, I don't get what's with people considering kemonomimi furry...

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Those two are so silly.
I'm still wondering what did this person quite a few pages back mean by this being an "AU of the author's gay furry porn comic" or something like that

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@DrJamesFox A bit late but my sibling isn't a native English speaker so they weren't trying to be rude and just had a little trouble telling that it was a joke ^^'

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I said that as a joke but they really brought up Slenderman... Amazing.

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So, I have decided that I'm going to try and translate the novel's first volume and was wondering if anyone knows what would be the best way to share it, like any websites?

That is really kind of you to offer!

I have seen groups posting chapters as blog posts on Wordpress, e.g. Amawashi. Another option is to upload document files (e.g. docx, epub, html) to Google Drive or Mega.nz, and host the links somewhere (e.g. Wordpress, Carrd), which is how the most popular translation project of JWQS (Chinese yuri webnovel) is shared. I have also seen some novels posted here on DynastyScans in the form of image sets, and then the translator would post links to document files in the forum thread, e.g. Sneikkimies' version of the Adachi and Shimamura light novels.

I think since TCR is a published light novel that one would normally pay to read (i.e. it's not a free-to-read web novel) it might be better to not use a blogging site for anything other than posting links to files uploaded somewhere else. But this is just my observation, so maybe you could ask around some of the groups about best practices. Some people in the Dynasty Discord server might also be able to help connect you to a translator who has worked on novels before.

Thank you very much for your advice! Once I get past my discord aversion I'll definitely join the dynasty server

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Amazing

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I really don't think Io would have agreed with what Hase demanded of her just because "she likes to be ordered around," since who is giving the orders obviously matters to her: she explicitly considered hooking up with other lesbians and then ran away at the last second, as described in chapter 2. Hase just has extreme control over Io's life and career, the endorsement of her parents,, access to her home, and is physically threatening on top of all that. I'm pretty sure Io obeyed out of fear, not because she's playing along as a sub.

This. It's a classic part of an abusive relationship and why Flowerchild is doing such a good job at portraying the difference that consent plays in this sort of dynamic. With Misa, she's seeing her and allowing her to dominate her out of her own will, but this? There's clearly a power imbalance, she's not into it, she's being coerced into it because she currently sees no other option than doing as she's told.
If she refuses, what will happen to her career? Where will she go to? How will she fend on her own? What about her parents?
And really, just the fear of defying someone who you see as an authority with power over everything you do is enough for her to comply. It's just like defying a controlling parent for the first time.
She hasn't reached that point where you accept that you DON'T have to stay and become determined to value yourself and let go of the people that only cause you harm. It's scary to lose it all at first even if you know that you can rebuild later on, feels "safer" to keep things as they are because at least you know what will happen.

Hase is basically telling her to know her place and that she has no voice of her own, keeping her in a little cage. "Oh, so you want this? Okay but it has to be my way or else, and don't dare to complain, it's my right to do this"
After her precious "belonging" got a taste of freedom, she started considering her tainted and only got creepier, as far as invading her privacy in new ways.. So truly it's not a matter of Io liking being ordered around, this is the result of fear.

Reminds me of my own parents, honestly. All the watching and the change in behaviour the moment you display that you want to be an individual of your own... You have to fit their ideals and comply to their desires or you lose your value.