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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

You'll see when it gets published...

Don't know what you're talking about. Just looked up two more chapters and it's worse than I thought. Offensive even.
But that's okay. The comments will be fun when you publish it. I'll be waiting.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

@Wtv
Let's not call it yuri, and have a long argument about why the subtext tag is pointless instead!

Also, if that's what the synopsis you read said, the person who wrote it was on some major shrooms.

I skimmed through the first chapter.
And looked up on the last one published.
But maybe I missed something? Well, it looked obvious to me.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Well...
A story about a yuri couple where one of them grows a dick/becomes a boy won't be received well on a yuri forum. I don't know why anyone would think otherwise.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

@Wtv
People on this site bitch about absolutely everything that's published, lmao. I'm doing it for the people who actually enjoy stuff. x)

Just don't call it yuri, then.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

@none
It's currently at 9 chapters (including this month's YH issue) and ongoing. There is always a chance... ;D
And there's not that many good super gay manga out there, so if there's a good one with subtext, I guess it'll have to do. x)
(An upcoming project of ours is both gay and hilarious, though. Sakura Nadeshiko for anyone interested in looking it up.)

Heh. Looked it up and I don't think it'll be well received here. Unless there's something I'm missing.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

To those that have read ahead, how is the yuri levels? I can't trust Dynasty's tagging system anymore since it seems they arbitrarily and inconsistently decide what is subtext and what is yuri anymore (fighting gamer Manga is yuri, Knight sports Manga is yuri, but she gets girls everyday is subtext, etc)

It's clearly yuri. More than that fighting gamer Manga that's not even subtext. I think staff should tag mangas for more consistency, or at least get rid of yuri and subtext tag and keep just the "het" one to warn.

Later a yandere-like (not really, though) girl is clearly in love with Hime.

Hime's past reveals why she wants to marry a millionaire and shows connection to another character. It's a pretty good chapter, and it'll be hard not to evolve from there.

In short, it's one of the best manga on YH right now. And not in a "for a yuri hime manga" way. It's really a good title.

would be ok if it wasn't set in a fetish cafe with dopey males, lmao

Later chapters start to show female clients as well. Yeah, it was a bad idea having only male. The author probably realized it.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

It's practically confirmed there will be a web manga based on the characters, but it sounds like it will start fresh.

Well, there's a pixiv series getting a tank by YH this month, but it's pretty much the same story as the pixiv one.
Although it has a more common format. It would at least be hard to put those small single pages on a tank.

last edited at Jul 11, 2017 4:08PM

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Love triangles, drama, het? Are we really going to be this traumatized forever, c'mon guys the yuri landscape is not -that- bad.

The problem is when an author try to change the genre they started. This is already a series. Maybe this one will be on Yuri Hime Pixiv, since the name of the author was on the list, so it has even the chance of getting a tank in the future. Some flashback of their past would be nice, but I don't think it should change the format more than that.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

I'd love for this to be a full series, starting from when Okabe and Yuria first meet.

So they could put a lot of unnecessary drama, love triangles, maybe threatening with het? A comedy series could work. But most authors usually lose track of what they want to do when making a more serious story.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Centaur's worries first episode was great. Really solid adaptation and they really amped the yuri. I like that they use the yuri side couple in opening. In general the series treats it as a normal thing, but it's great to see them being treat equally with other couples in opening.

Well, there's like, two yuri couples on the OP and one het couple.
And as far as I remember, that het couple are background characters in the manga that don't even have names. So I'm more suprised about them being there.

Oh yeah, there's also that het couple with unrequited love.

last edited at Jul 10, 2017 7:23PM

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

This manga actually follows the way the episodes are named in the anime. They were always: "we ended up...*something*". In japanese it was some verbちゃった (chatta). Chatta meaning "we did something completely".
Then the manga is キスしちゃった (kisushichatta)

last edited at Jul 10, 2017 2:00AM

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

I just want to warn people that the next chapter is also pretty cute.

By the way. The kouhai-chan uses "boku" on the japanese manga. It's funny because she doesn't look like a tomboy, so I don't get why.

last edited at Jul 7, 2017 11:55PM

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

It's also taboo because of the social imbalances and messiness of dating family, but that's the same if you're blood-related or adopted family. (Some of that doesn't apply for step-family though, but a break-up can still be messy.)

Anyways, incest is some people's thing, seemingly including Mochi Au Lait, so... that's why it is what it is, basically.

That would apply to a lot of manga here, though. Even some loved ones like Dear My Teacher.
By the way, incest was pretty common on Japan until recently, and they just stopped doing it because it was fucking their genetic code. As consequence, japanese people are more vulnerable to a lot of diseases.
And that explain why so much anime and manga deals with incest, I guess.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Uh no. We have already plenty of stories with sisters-who-aren't-really-sisters, but it's still taboo for them to be in love and the way they relate to each other is not necessarily linked to their blood relation.

The basic plot wouldn't suffer that much if they weren't related by blood. Just the fact that they were raised together is enough.

And by the way, this story doesn't even really address the taboo. It stays comedic. Which is fine, but then what's the point of making them blood related? If there's an elephant in the room, I usually expect the author to address it at some point.

The fact that they are blood related adds a potential to the story that isn't realized.

But if this story satisfies you the way it is, you do you as well.

They're both girls. They being blood related or not isn't a issue at all.
Incest is taboo because of offspring.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Can we not do politics here please? (For the record, America is not scary, I feel safer here than any other country in the world.)

That's nice that you've been to every country in the world already.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Come on! Wtv said in the spoiler text earlier that there was some fairly obvious subtext already and it's only 8 chapters in.

I said one scene. One scene in 8 chapter hardly should be considered subtext. We have a lot of more in less in any MTK show.
Anyway, I'm not the one calling it queerbaiting. I wouldn't say that for a lot of reasons and don't think it's yuri, but okay, it's not het either. That's not why I dislike it, though. This is just a bad "sports" manga.

To begin with, yeah, I can't take "e-sports" seriously. I don't know how they could do it interesting and this title sure as hell isn't showing me. What they do here would be considered bad in any sports manga, because we have 8...8 full chapters of exposition.
Yes, in each of these 8 chatpers they give a full tutorial about frame, dash, blocking, canceling, any little thing about fighting game. This is just bad storytelling.
Think about it. Imagine Saki, or any sport anime, for that matter, where they spend hundreds and hundreds of pages explaining the technical part of that sport. Its rules, its strategies. There's a reason no one does that. Sport manga should be fun, not educational. We don't want to learn about the sport while reading it, we want it to be emotional. But here we have pretty much a fighting game manual, instead of an actual manga.

Well, you'll probably see it once more chapters are translated. And you'll see why it's hard to put any yuri inside of a story that's not even trying to work with their characters to begin with.

last edited at Jul 6, 2017 9:22AM by Nezchan

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Queer baiting? Queer baiting.
Good to know I won't have to expect something then.

...it's at 3 published chapters right now. Are you people wasting your supernatural oracle talents to look into the future and see how ongoing yuri series end or are you just taking the piss because you're jaded and want to sound smart? No yuri marriage with science baby in 3 chapters? Fucking dropped!

There's 8 chapters out.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

Though I think I haven't seen any yuri sports Manga beyond subtext anyways.

There's hardly any subtext either. They...held hands and blushed a little once, I guess. I actually have no idea how this is being published on YH.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

So someone translated this, huh?
This is one of the most boring manga I read in my life, actually.
Also, there's not yuri at all.

It's okay if you want a fighting game tutorial.

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

It isn't like these are western-only concepts, and it isn't like the Japanese aren't in contact with western ideas. They're pretty basic ones, and to say "well, they don't think that way" comes close to stereotyping Asians as exotic and "not like us".

What I meant is that maybe their female artists have a different view than western ones. But then again, I remember there's a lot of female artists on west do the same.
I do know that "male gaze" exist, even on japanese things. But this is mostly a commercial concept. Actracting buyers by putting scenes that they'll like to see. I don't think it makes sense to apply the same concept to doujins, since they usually do things they like. I know they sell it, but no doujin artist ever consider making a living of drawing doujins. Rather, it's like a hobby.
So I wonder if it's supposed to be "male gaze" when she's not doing it thinking: "I'll draw like this, so a lot of male buyers will buy it", but rather: "I'm drawing it like this because I like it."

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Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

I think applying western concepts to japanese authors is a dangerous thing to do. As it was said already, the author is female. There's a lot of pervy female author in the yuri genre.
Also remember how the female author of Sakura Trick actually asked the anime production to focus on the girls' tights and boobs. It was her wish, above all.

So I don't know if we can apply the "male gaze" term here. These authors mostly draw and write for themselves more than anything. This is a doujin, to begin with, not a comercial manga.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

If only the anime had djeeta

Next episode will be Djeeta. Probably two special episodes.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

The manga editor wants to make it clear it's not yuri.
Anyway, Kuzushiro has been doing more het than yuri lately.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

I get this is a yuri site, but it's fun to watch all the misandry going on. Also love all the butthurt comments because it's not some deep psychological insight into why he crossdresses. There are straight crossdressers. Get over it.

The guy forcing himself on the girl is bad enough. If it's misandry saying a guy shouldn't sexually assault a girl, then I am a misandrist, I gues.

Kururi
joined Aug 25, 2015

I guess you're correct that 'default' is more accurate than 'canon' though your dislike of the word seems questionable to me.

People like to use the word "canon" to dismiss things like: "why even bother with it? it's not even canon. It never happened". Except it's fiction anyway, so nothing of that ever happened. If someone wants to consider only that one alternate view as their truth, they can.

I guess it makes sense for some things, like games that have sequels. And even with those, it's not a rule. Take Drakengard/Nier, for example, that has sequels coming from different endings. Some visual novels do that, too. You could say it makes sense for games like Flowers, when the sequel follows only on the "canon ending", but who knows, maybe someday IG will make a sequel following Rikka's ending, and the concept of Mayuri being canon is over, too.

In the end, it's not that I hate the word, but I hate how people usually use it and give it more importance than it has. Although for things that has already a lot of alternate versions, I don't think it makes sense.

last edited at Jun 18, 2017 8:34PM