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Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

We may disagree about many things here because we all read the story differently but one thing stays true to all of us - the ending suckc but those who liked Seju the most are the true winners because this girl got the best and only development.

Nah, you're wrong. We're definitely not the true winners, hardcore teamblonde fans are. Most of them are happy :)

Dou you even know how we feel? That in the end, Seju is still there, lonely and sad. She is still out there struggling alone for God knows how long cause we dont get to see her happy, or get to see her being comforted or just get a hug or sth. We dont get to see that

Maybe the ending is bad but at least, Sumin and Sungji are happy, Seju is not so the same.

She has the best development but its just a waste. Its so regretful that it got wasted. There are so many "what-ifs" for this character, if she gets a proper story line.

last edited at Sep 9, 2017 12:44PM

Eliz
joined Jul 26, 2017

Nora mentioned that with this kind of development, it could have ended in chapter 70-ish which I agree. What's the point of the last 20 chapters?
71. seju's family
72. sejuxsuming flashback, sungji's family
73. more sex with blondie, the house talk (Izz)
74. History of the house (Izz again since you asked for citing, and I ran across them)
75. More sex with blondie, Seju in hotel
76. attack
77. moving in
78. sesame
79. PTSD
80. shopping
81. more sex with blondie, p*ssy block
82. cake and dream
83. seju sungji talk
84. bday
85. fever
86. sleeping together
87. team leader 2.0 quit (waste of hype), pillow
88. emo sungji and blah blah blah

How many of these chapters do we really need to reach the current state?

last edited at Sep 9, 2017 12:55PM

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joined Feb 4, 2017

yoonie, again.. I couldn't agree more

Like hell she will become good friends with both of them. I want her to as far away as possible from them

Izz, I like Sungji.. believe it or not, I do.. even when her fans attacked her.. I fiercely defended her actions right from ch68, 69 and 70.. then again in ch90. But is this the way of the ending her fans find acceptable and respectful ?

Momonosuke
hahahha.. you are being the geek in here when I literally lost my touch XDDD
but yeah .. WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN.. why did they put all that!


Disclaimer:

I may again speak of yoonie, Momonosuke and myself, we never wanted to alter the ending to match what we desire or tell the writer what to do, this is not our place and we don't have a say in that. It is just the shock related to how it happened.. in a sense, that there was enough base and solid ground to push any couple together way back and it could've ended in a better way without even changing the so called "end game". In short, TG could've still ended it Sumingji in a better more decent way with all of the details and ground that they made previously.

But this!
it is insulting for their art more than anything else.

If you tell me that everything from ch73 to now was an attempt to show Seju moving on, then honey really think about the possibilities of doing that in ch74 when Sumin went and talked it with Seju once and for all. But no, they added growth to everyone and ended the whole thing so suddenly on a very volatile emotional stage rather than the solid one.

last edited at Sep 9, 2017 1:44PM

joined Jun 23, 2017

One more chapter guys...

Not saying it will change anything, but let's see how they will transition to the side story.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Time to write our own story folks XD

Seju is hired XD

Eliz
joined Jul 26, 2017

Vanbun Haven't read that one but heard about it. I may give it a try when I have time.

Nora Seju travels solo in Paris and met Camille. <3.

Orange Just noticed your avatar. Elizabeth is a better pet. Just saying.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

Momonosuke

Nora Seju travels solo in Paris and met Camille. <3.

hot hot hoooooot XDDD
then I can take the night train to there, who cares about the Louvre when Seju is better than Angelo's best work.

joined Jun 23, 2017

Time to write our own story folks XD
Seju is hired XD

Sumin and Sungji continue their relationship, but then Sumin realizes that she misses Seju, remembers the good times again, and has a "certain" flashback.

This leads to her trying to find Seju. When she finally does, she reveals...

That is one of the only ways I could see a reconciliation between them.

But throwing all discussions out the window... next chapter will probably show Sumin and Sungji happy while Seju explores her mother's villa. This will lead to the side story (or the side story might be Sumin and Sungji still, who knows at this point).

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joined Feb 4, 2017

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Sumin and Sungji continue their relationship, but then Sumin realizes that she misses Seju, remembers the good times again, and has a "certain" flashback.
This leads to her trying to find Seju. When she finally does, she reveals...

guess what, I am past this.. to a point if it happens at this point, will literally make me snap.. a none sense can't be fixed by severer none sene. They already created this version of Sungji that I don't want to see Seju becoming.

This will lead to the side story (or the side story might be Sumin and Sungji still, who knows at this point).

oh cool, I learned my lesson.. just enjoy the art and to stop rationalising things.. so I might enjoy that one whatever it will be.. but not Sumngji or Sumin in any other scene because seriously, YUCK!

joined Jun 23, 2017

oh cool, I learned my lesson.. just enjoy the art and to stop rationalising things.. so I might enjoy that one whatever it will be.. but not Sumngji or Sumin in any other scene because seriously, YUCK!

Nora, I understand. Not a fan of Sumin even more I see. XD

Maybe the author herself feels Seju can do better. shrugs

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joined Feb 4, 2017

I expected to see a party in 4chan.. I am proud of them, even though they are mostly Sumingji shippers, they also hated the way this was forced. This end tells something.


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Nora, I understand. Not a fan of Sumin even more I see. XD

not like I can be blamed for that XDDD, if after bedding +31 women in just 10 years, experience should have taught her that sex is not the answer .

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joined Jun 23, 2017

not like I can be blamed for that XDDD, if after bedding +31 women in just 10 years, experience should have taught her that sex is not the answer

Yeah... I want to read what the author has to say after it ends.

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

They already created this version of Sungji that I don't want to see Seju becoming.

100% agree. This version of Sungji is really....meh.

I absolutely love who Seju has become right now so please, they have ruined one thing, please dont ruin the one last best thing in wdtfs. This is all I'm asking for

Right now, I refuse Seju to
- come back to Sumin.
- be around Sumin and Sungji
- still is Sungji's boss. God damn this girl, why do you still work there and doesnt know Seju has left to the State that you have to be so surprised that Sumin is living alone, LOLLLLLL. Ok, right, no more logic, I forgot, lolll

And I want Seju to move on with a new character. For the first time since I read this manhwa, I'm crossing my finger. Cross it for this to happen before wdtfs ends

And yes, I have changed my heart. I want Seju to move on and be far away from Sumin and Sungji as possible. Better, just stay in foreign country and be a womanizer, LOLLLL.

Eliz
joined Jul 26, 2017

And I want Seju to move on with a new character.... And yes, I have changed my heart

This chapter has done some serious damage. lol

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Could anyone give me another interesting discussion thread of wdtfs, because I don't follow anywhere else. Just for insight of team blonde

4chan, mangago, facebook group. Its easy to find one forum that supports teamblonde though.

Basically anywhere but here. LOLLL

I wish someone will fight and hold seju back or give her a hug, since she needs that..... and please don't jump it to sex right away. But what if TG plan to end seju with nami or the cousin (forget the name). Lol

Nah, this is sth I've talked with Nora the other day. If (and this is a pretty big if) there is a new character for Seju, I dont think this couple will be as fast as SuminxSungji, lolll.

Seju is the character I love. I think I'm confident that I understand what kind of person she is so its safe for me to say she is a hard to approach person, someone who doesnt easily trust people and open up to people. So for a new love interest to have her way with Seju, there will be one heck of progress from approaching her, being her friend, gain her trust, making her let her guard down, break through all her defense walls. Its not easy to have Seju to love gain, cause she has loved Sumin too much

And honestly, its pretty interesting to know how to make Seju love again at this point, the journey of it is kinda....exciting in my....head, sadly, lollll

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joined Feb 4, 2017

I never been so on the same page with yoonie like now XDDD

Right now, I refuse Seju to
- come back to Sumin.
- be around Sumin and Sungji

those are things I don't want to see.. and as we discussed earlier, now more than ever.. I want to Seju in another woman's embrace.. someone whom Seju can kiss the way she wants to when she wants to, and actually makes real love to her, and calls her "Seju-ah" even if they are not sexing (if you catch my drift).

And honestly, its pretty interesting to know how to make Seju love again at this point, the journey of it is kinda....exciting in my....head, sadly, lollll

this will be heart warming if and only if it doesn't get rubbished at the very end.
#trauma

Momonosuke

This chapter has done some serious damage. lol

more than you could imagine XD

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joined Feb 4, 2017

I feel betrayed XD

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Nora

Since we talk about love again
By the way, I just remember there was one article or QnA you linked said that TG treated this story as a road to "love again" for all three characters, including Sungji. Am I remembering it right?

Cause lets just say Sumin and Sungji has fit the category of love again, what about Seju? I dont think right now, its really "love again" for Seju though, its more like she is paving the way for Sumin and Sungji to love again, lolllll.

Please dont tell me that next chap she will be friends with them and being lively cause she finally has "friends". That's her "love again"

I'm gonna shoot everything if that's really it.

joined Jun 23, 2017

Since Nora has retired (sadly), I put this thing together...

I was convinced of the Seju and Sumin ending, because it was seemingly hinted throughout the manhwa. This ending was conclusive, final, and solid. It would have wrapped everything up nicely.

Apparently, this was never meant to be and it was not as important as I thought.

Disclaimer: First time making something like this, so I apologize if you cannot read the text that clearly or if the images are blurry. I suggest looking up the chapters instead if this is the case. This took me a couple hours (Nora, you have really affected me...)

The highlighted texts indicate "hints" to the ending. The others are scenes that mention "forever" and "marriage." I could only fit so much and I did not even get into the possible symbolism in the manhwa.

Or here: https://imgur.com/54CNh7k

Funny how this potential "set up" for the ending was unintended. I guess I read too much into it. Oh well.

Also, Seju does not know of this arrangement for her and Sumin. Check chapter 62. Guess she never will... I wonder if it will ever be brought up again (maybe briefly by her brother?).

Nevertheless, this manhwa will always have its great moments and I do not at all regret reading it or being part of this discussion. :)

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joined Feb 4, 2017

yoonie0104

yes, you are recalling the article correctly.. but "loving again" was quite misleading to me at least as you implied with Sungji's case specifically. But then, the term "again" is also misleading and would have meant "Sejumin" as well who had some sort of love-hate relationship for a long time.

As for the friendship part, I mean .. wth! Like it wasn't enough that they made Sungji accept Sumin back ONLY because Sumin spent some time alone in her apartment XD. If Seju comes around the neighborhood, their strong relationship will fall apart, you know ! XD

So, where is Seju now ? in California or another Gayberhood state ?? I hope she goes to a kick ass lesbian bar with some killer pick up line:
https://imgur.com/a/Yatpi

XD
no no no.. jokes aside.. I want her to be loved in a decent way.. going slow and building something worthy of this girl's accurate devotion and real emotions XD

Seju, Dammit girl.. come to my dream while you are single XD

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joined Oct 6, 2015

I really can't see Seju with someone else coz for her "Sumin" is absolute so if not, then nothing else should be. So I really prefer her to be alone. Maybe I am selfish. But that's just how I see Seju-- stubborn, full of pride, lonely, but most of all, her love for Sumin is what I really like the most. She will be fine with just herself and I don't wanna ruin her at least in my mind.

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joined Feb 4, 2017

mpgpeg, sigh.. I appreciate your work.. but it is a painful memory to me now.. and I happened to have a strong one XDDD.. these are the very few.. I mean I really feel betrayed.

LustGreed
are you being sadistic much ? XDD
well, eternal love is a beautiful concept if it was given to the worthy.. but for 10 years this girl did not even get the right to kiss the someone she loves the way she wants.. in ch45, she just tries so touch Sumin's face who rudely slapped her hand away.. to only lay her head on Seju's shoulder later when she wants to. This is the kind of person whom she is being loyal and devoted to. So, NO.. she deserves better.
https://imgur.com/a/RdMGW

joined Jun 23, 2017

Nora89

sigh.. I appreciate your work.. but it is a painful memory to me now.. and I happened to have a strong one XDDD.. these are the very few.. I mean I really feel betrayed.

I am waiting to hear the author's commentary on the story to find out If this was her intention from the start or if anything was changed during the process.

I appreciate all your work, Nora. :) Thank you so much for everything.

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joined Oct 6, 2015

LustGreed
are you being sadistic much ? XDD
well, eternal love is a beautiful concept if it was given to the worthy.. but for 10 years this girl did not even get the right to kiss the someone she loves the way she wants.. in ch45, she just tries so touch Sumin's face who rudely slapped her hand away.. to only lay her head on Seju's shoulder later when she wants to. This is the kind of person whom she is being loyal and devoted to. So, NO.. she deserves better.
https://imgur.com/a/RdMGW

Don't get me wrong. I hate Sumin with all my being. Most of us wanted Seju to be happy. And all I can give is support Seju's mindset that it should only be Sumin(she said so herself). It is the author's choice not to end it that way. And for them to make a new love interest for Seju, well, that's a big no for me. It is something like a consolation which I can't take.

last edited at Sep 10, 2017 4:37AM

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joined Feb 4, 2017

And for them to make a new love interest for Seju, well, that's a big no for me. It is something like a consolation which I can't take.

I understand.
But but butttttt, she needs to get laid, no? XD

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