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joined Mar 21, 2017

I'm kind of keen to see others opinions more.

Like other user's here? Anyone in particular?

No one in particular. I like opinions that are short and to the point while whatever I am reading or watching is still ongoing.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 6:20PM

joined Jun 23, 2017

No one in particular. I like opinions that are short and to the point while whatever I am reading or watching is still ongoing.

I get it. Tl;drs or "bottom lines" are great for you then I guess.

joined May 18, 2017

1 - Seju and Sungji faced off (kind of). And I assume two possibilities: Sungji will give Sumin an ultimatum or will walk away to spare Sumin the drama of choosing between caring for Seju or failing Sungji because walking away could be a sign of trying to protect the weak shorty.

2 - Why would Seju ask her to not forgive Sumin? Somehow, it feels like Seju isn't up to anything dirty. This was either a plea for her unrequited love or somehow trying to help push Sungji and Sumin together I just simply can't see the bad intentions this time. Maybe I'm dense

3 - And the father dies.. will Seju be made the new head of the Baek enterprises or what. Will Sumin stay by her side? Will someone finally kill Seju? And more importantly Where is Foxy lady and Nora?

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

2 - Why would Seju ask her to not forgive Sumin? Somehow, it feels like Seju isn't up to anything dirty. This was either a plea for her unrequited love or somehow trying to help push Sungji and Sumin together I just simply can't see the bad intentions this time. Maybe I'm dense

I don't think it's bad intentions but i really can't see an altruistic motive behind it.

joined Jun 23, 2017

either a plea for her unrequited love or somehow trying to help push Sungji and Sumin together

I don't think it's bad intentions but i really can't see an altruistic motive behind it.

I think it's simply her final plea to Sungji. That's all she can say. No bad intentions or altruism, agreed.

3 - And the father dies.. will Seju be made the new head of the Baek enterprises or what. Will Sumin stay by her side? Will someone finally kill Seju?

I would think about his will. Nora89 went into detail about this many times.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 7:23PM

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

Sungji kind of impresses me lately, she's quite tough and resilient.

joined Jun 23, 2017

Sungji kind of impresses me lately, she's quite tough and resilient.

I thought she has always been kind of resilient, on the outside at least, in terms of Sumin and Seju's relationship. Recently, she has been cracking under that pressure. Now she has decided, enough is enough, something has to change. Good on her.

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

Sungji kind of impresses me lately, she's quite tough and resilient.

I thought she has always been kind of resilient, on the outside at least, in terms of Sumin and Seju's relationship. Recently, she has been cracking under that pressure. Now she has decided, enough is enough, something has to change. Good on her.

I agree, i think i just mean in terms of lately they've been focusing on that side of her a bit more. I feel like she has had less screen time than the others lately. The last time they really showed it was the end of the last chapter. (but that could be just my memory)

Edit: While she's been in the chapters she's felt like a third wheel.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 7:56PM

joined Jun 23, 2017

I feel like she has had less screen time than the others lately.
While she's been in the chapters she's felt like a third wheel.

Agreed. I think she feels the same, honestly.

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

I feel like she has had less screen time than the others lately.
While she's been in the chapters she's felt like a third wheel.

Agreed. I think she feels the same, honestly.

Not used to people agreeing with me on here : P

joined Jun 23, 2017

Not used to people agreeing with me on here : P

Not used to you agreeing with me. XD

Also, something else that came to mind: Sungji still wanted to hear Seju's side of the situation, even when Sumin explained it to her already. The trust is just not there.

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

Mpgpeg

I can understand Sungji's distrust as it's a pretty hard thing to trust, i wouldn't get back with someone that cheated on me but I think her love overrides her complete lack of trust though going by the last few panels.

last edited at Jul 29, 2017 5:14AM

Eliz
joined Jul 26, 2017

there will have to be a major event in the next chapter likely for Seju to become the "owner" of the scarf.

Oh, that's interesting. Seju's scarf/mitten talk gives me a bittersweet feeling. Honestly, at this point I don't know what is going to happen next to their relationship. I thought sungji would leave, but it does not seem like it anymore after what she said this chapter. She does not need to forgive sumin because there was not really anything to forgive, we know that from her thought. She wants to make sure the one she loves (sumin) won't get hurt anymore, it only makes sense that she stays by sumin's side as her protector.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 8:27PM

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Wow, I woke up and Nora hasn't been here xD, she is probably too busy xD, Foxy Lady only comments when she thinks its needed xDD

joined Jun 23, 2017

yoonie0104

I'm guessing Nora89 is sleeping right now. Maybe she wanted to see how the discussion would go without her?

Eliz
joined Jul 26, 2017

yoonie0104

I'm guessing Nora89 is sleeping right now. Maybe she wanted to see how the discussion would go without her?

Hmmm, I am a little worried that Nora failed her test and cried herself into sleep....
Don't cry Nora, statistics is a bitch (I know it from experience). There is more to life than exam grade.

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

1 - Seju and Sungji faced off (kind of). And I assume two possibilities: Sungji will give Sumin an ultimatum or will walk away to spare Sumin the drama of choosing between caring for Seju or failing Sungji because walking away could be a sign of trying to protect the weak shorty.

One, Sungji now knows Sumin cares for Seju a lot. Making Sumin choose is not stop the person I love from getting hurt at all but the table has turned when Seju asks for sth pretty not good in Sungji's book. Sungji might think Seju wanted Sumin to suffer. From the first heard of Seju's plea with a person who didnt fully understand the situation, it comes out in a bad way xD.

Two, walking away is also not a wise choice. Remember, Sungji comes to that conclusion after Seju talks about the gloves and the scarf. She knows who Sumin loves more or maybe that how she perceives at that moment.

So what is it in Sungji's mind after she hears Seju out but didnt understand Seju's real motive and dilemma? Sungji might think Seju is bad again XDDDD

2 - Why would Seju ask her to not forgive Sumin? Somehow, it feels like Seju isn't up to anything dirty. This was either a plea for her unrequited love or somehow trying to help push Sungji and Sumin together I just simply can't see the bad intentions this time. Maybe I'm dense

It might not be a bad intention, judging from her words and her facial expression. She seems sad saying those words. And honestly, the words she was cut off from a phone call, those are the important words. They will show her intention but well, of course, they're cut off, LOLL.

For me, as I read this chap and the chap before last chap, Seju wanted to teach Sumin a lesson. Karma. What comes around goes around. She once said "you dont know. That's why its called a mistake", it might also refer to her case. This chap she said "leftover love", she never gets chance to be back to where they were because Sumin didnt forgive her mistake. Didnt she even ask "You think she'll accept it?", because she herself didnt get that chance from Sumin herself. Ironically, right?

Readers might say "No, Sumin's case is different, she didnt cheat this time". No, its the same "slept together". What kind of slept, you never knows for sure as the third person's perspective. In a way, the situation is completely the same.

In my opinnion, Seju wanted Sumin to feel what she feels for the last 10 years.

3 - And the father dies.. will Seju be made the new head of the Baek enterprises or what. Will Sumin stay by her side? Will someone finally kill Seju? And more importantly Where is Foxy lady and Nora?

Seju will not have an easy life at all from now on for sure, in Korea, I mean. The important thing is, Sumin hasnt known about the death yet and that phone call Seju received last panel probably was from her brother, Saehyun.

First snow together might not be SejuxSumin, I think xD, its SungjixSumin. But it would be a sad day for Seju. Very sad day.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 9:47PM

joined Jun 23, 2017

yoonie0104

Nice post.

First snow together might not be SejuxSumin, I think xD, its SungjixSumin. But it would be a sad day for Seju. Very sad day.

Didn't they start dating only months ago when it was not winter? I will stand corrected if you show me otherwise. The first snow of the winter happened at the end of this chapter where Sungji and Sumin were clearly separated.

Given Seju and Sumin have known each other for more than 10 years, you'd think they would've experienced a first snow at some point. Statistically speaking.

Edit:

The important thing is, Sumin hasnt known about the death yet

Not sure about this. She may have seen the "breaking news" on the monitor.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 9:50PM

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

Didn't they start dating only months ago when it was not winter? I will stand corrected if you show me otherwise. The first snow of the winter happened at the end of this chapter where Sungji and Sumin were clearly separated.

I might be writing to short for this part. I mean Sumin and Sungji will have a talk under first snow or sth xD, while Seju might have left for her father's funeral preparation.

What comes out from that talk, I'm also curious too xDDDD

Given Seju and Sumin have known each other for more than 10 years, you'd think they would've experienced a first snow at some point. Statistically speaking.

Chap 2 might be the first snow xDDDDD. But in Seju and Sumin's nature, they might not believe it xDDDD

Edit:

Not sure about this. She may have seen the "breaking news" on the monitor.

You'll see her car drove pass the big monitor that are showing the breaking news.
The scene is like this, when her car was stopped, the news is about the weather, then someone honk their car and Sumin was out of her daze, driving past the Tv monitor, that was when the news about the death came out xDDDD

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 9:57PM

joined Jun 23, 2017

yoonie0104

I might be writing to short for this part. I mean Sumin and Sungji will have a talk under first snow or sth xD, while Seju might have left for her father's funeral preparation.

Isn't the saying, according to the translation, "the first snowdrop" as in, that has already happened? Looks to be too late.

I'm curious what comes out of the talk too.

Edit:

The scene is like this, when her car was stopped, the news is about the weather, then someone honk their car and Sumin was out of her daze, driving past the Tv monitor, that was when the news about the death came out xDDDD

Or maybe she saw the news, given her expression? I'm just questioning her expression right now. Either that or she remembers something again (probably the first snow, if that). She seems awake already before the beep.


Team Gaji loves "forever" don't they? The scar, the tattoo, the rings, "staying by your side," the promise, now the "first snow" saying.

This is what makes the story lean towards a certain way right now. As well as the end goal, which seems to be closer and closer.

last edited at Jul 28, 2017 10:06PM

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

How do people perceive these lines from Sungji?

"It's just that now the time is for one side to have their feelings hurt"
"And there is only one thing i can do"
"I'm going to make sure that the person i love won't be hurt anymore"

016
joined Mar 21, 2017

Team Gaji loves "forever" don't they? The scar, the tattoo, the rings, "staying by your side," the promise, now the "first snow" saying.

What's the significance of first snow?

joined Jun 23, 2017

Es0teric

How do people perceive these lines from Sungji?

The definitive answer will be revealed later...

Been wondering the same thing. It's either an ultimatum or letting go.

Enk

I think the aggressive take would be that Sungji is effectively saying "I don't care about your feelings Seju, Sumin is mine so stay away from her"

Not likely. Sungji knows she can't make Seju do that. She is too kind as well (or is she?).

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joined Jun 23, 2017

What's the significance of first snow?

It says in the chapter, explained by the male co-worker. "If you see the first snowdrop together, your love will be forever."

Capture_89_1
joined Apr 28, 2016

yoonie0104
Isn't the saying, according to the translation, "the first snowdrop" as in, that has already happened? Looks to be too late.

I'm curious what comes out of the talk too.

Hmmm, not actually just simply first snowdrop, its about spending watching it and being together when the first snow happens xD.

But lets just joke Seju and Sungji is seeing first snow together, they're forever after xDDDDDDDDDD

Or maybe she saw the news, given her expression? I'm just questioning her expression right now. Either that or she remembers something again (probably the first snow, if that). She seems awake already before the beep.

I perceive it as she was startled by the beep and drove pass the tv monitor. But we'll see next chap xD,

Team Gaji loves "forever" don't they? The scar, the tattoo, the rings, "staying by your side," the promise, now the "first snow" saying.

This is what makes the story lean towards a certain way right now. As well as the end goal, which seems to be closer and closer.

Yes, they surely are xD. Forever and fate has been talking about hella alot in this. They're the main theme after all but they can use it to make an ending completely the opposite to strongly prove their point. XD

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