hlama

Hehehehehe XD

I don't like seeing her stressed and insecure.

I want to see Sungji breaking up with Sumin since I want to know if she has a limit.

sia ue
Could it be that fact that this is Sungji's first relationship so she doesn't have a reference to what a healthy relationship feels like is the reason why she puts up with too much!

yoonie0104

Like I said above, Sungji leaving, Sumin realizing her love or sth doesnt guarantee an ending for SejuxSumin. Its not. Seju and Sumin are in a state where they might both know they're in love with each other but to be back to be a couple again is not from that same equation.

theoretically, this is correct.. However, the way I see things going for a long while is to fix Sumin & Seju.. with every new chapter, I see this thing clearer.. remember when I wrote my back wall of text previously and I stated: TG are fracturing Sungji and Sumin WHILE rebuilding stronger connections between Seju and Sumin?

if it does fall apart between Sungji and Sumin, this would only mean that any future relationship that Sumin would have would also fall apart for the exact same reasons!

AND, what happened in ch55 is a very strong indicator that in case Sungji and Sumin fell apart, Seju and Sumin are the only way.

on a side note though, after reading a particular thread:
although team Gaji don't have to spoon feed everything they explained in panels and dialogues.. I really WISH they do it once and for all.. I do hope they throw it on the face of those lazy narrow minded readers the way they did it with Nammi X Seju in ch85!
just once and for all

Good God !!!!

about the release date issue:
NOTHING has changed. I know where it comes from, which is from here: http://imgur.com/a/sydoq

but let me explain by an example in here:
now this manhwa is mentioned to be released every 8th,18th and 28th.. but it was already released in the time zone that still has the 17th of July on effect:
http://imgur.com/a/9OCRe

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Nora89

although team Gaji don't have to spoon feed everything they explained in panels and dialogues.. I really WISH they do it once and for all..

What was that thread about? The debunked Seju and Nammi ship?

What was that thread about? The debunked Seju and Nammi ship?

mainly childish reading.. taking things at their face value .. double standards, weakness in connecting ideas together and simply not taking dialogues seriously !.. the irony lays when they have the nerve to criticise a work that they don't remotely understand
they truly need to be spoon fed.. not just that, but also shocked in their faces!

the irony lays when they have the nerve to criticise a work that they don't remotely understand
they truly need to be spoon fed..

Yeah, those kinds of threads are frustrating... WDTFS is much more subtle than other manhwas and, as you said, is not for everyone. (Although I wish it had a larger audience, leading to a greater number of analyzers that read more deeply into things.)

well, I blame specifically the poor media production that is so used to spoon feed the audience so much that they become blind to any sort of hints and cues unless they are pointed out loud and clear with maybe a help of arrows and a laser pointer!.. good art take the audience up, while poor art, goes DOWN to below audience !

and by the way, I am not talking about the confusing parts.. or any of those that needs some sort of serious thinking.. what I read was obscenely simple-minded beyond belief and very repetitive in multiple places

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what I read was obscenely simple-minded beyond belief and very repetitive in multiple places

Kind of like the Facebook comments. XD

Speaking of audience, I really want to recommend this manhwa to others, but I have to hold back for obvious reasons... or if I do, I would put disclaimers regarding it's content. Maybe I need to find a community for comics like the art house film community who analyzes works and is open to watching most subject matters.

The only thing holding me back from recommending this manhwa to people is I'm afraid they would judge me for what I read right from chap 1, lol XDDDD.

mpgpeg

I really want to recommend this manhwa to others, but I have to hold back for obvious reasons

well, I know many people who are into novels and such.. I kept recommending this work to them but they are put off by the fact that it's a visual art (comic) and not plain pages.. sigh! (as if plain pages makes them feel smarter than colored panels.. blows my mind!!)
it's actually kinda bitter sweet to have it in this form, difficulty wise I mean.. but I've been reading top works, sometimes nobel prize winners, but this particular work captured my attention like no other.. with its endless possibilities to expand the story for many years to come.

by the way, the fact that they are three women who are into women adds emotional depth that is unusual for both: yuri, and romantic stories in general. I guess even our reaction change by this fact.. I wonder how would we feel if Sumin or Seju were males.

theoretically, this is correct.. However, the way I see things going for a long while is to fix Sumin & Seju.. with every new chapter

You know, Nora, fixing a relationship doesnt necessarily mean back to dating, it could mean being a normal friend or sth. SejuxSumin is heading that way, mending the toxic relationship for 10 years but being more than that? I dont know for sure yet.

yoonie0104

it could mean being a normal friend or sth

hehehe.. I would've believed that if I haven't seen Sumin's face in ch55, her sweaty and surprised reaction in ch57, or how she jumped to tightened Seju's robe in ch78 or even insisting on having separate sheets back to back sleeping arrangement in ch86. Honey, Sumin is sexually tensed around Seju.. I wonder how Sumin would react if Seju was to kiss someone else. hmm
I am not talking about the emotional part yet.. that's already known XD

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Nora89

well, I know many people who are into novels and such.. I kept recommending this work to them but they are put off by the fact that it's a visual art (comic) and not plain pages.. sigh!

That is sad... and disappointing. The "usual" people attracted to works in this genre are not expecting to read deeply into it, while the people usually not into this genre are better suited to analyze it. What a predicament, that I can't find a good solution for. But that brings me back to an adaptation done right that might widen its audience.

I wonder how would we feel if Sumin or Seju were males.

You know... when I explained a bit of this story to a friend who is not into the genre, I made Sumin a male for reasons said before. Seju's devotion is taken much more harshly when the one she loves is a male, I realized. Double standards for sure. (If it was flipped, the male would seem endearing.)

yoonie0104

I'm afraid they would judge me for what I read right from chap 1, lol XDDDD.

Yeah... I wish I didn't feel that way, but I do. A part of me thinks that this work is too good to be ashamed of though.

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mainly childish reading.. taking things at their face value .. double standards, weakness in connecting ideas together

Nora I must admit I was a little like that when I started reading this...XD I mean I didn't think it was a straightforward story and I had a lot of questions left unanswered but I never really did connect the ideas together. And seeing the discussion here, it's been delightful! I don't know what's there for people to complain about X.X

I wonder how would we feel if Sumin or Seju were males.

You know... when I explained a bit of this story to a friend who is not into the genre, I made Sumin a male for reasons said before. Seju's devotion is taken much more harshly when the one she loves is a male, I realized. Double standards for sure. (If it was flipped, the male would seem endearing.)

These are interesting points!
I feel like if Seju were male, she would come across more stalkerish hahaha. Clearly I have my own biases XD

I'm afraid they would judge me for what I read right from chap 1, lol XDDDD.

Yeah... I wish I didn't feel that way, but I do. A part of me thinks that this work is too good to be ashamed of though.
Hahaha this sums it up for me too XD

mpgpeg (I always feel like typing just JPEG LOL), it is too good to be ashamed of -but I guess people won't be able to see that if they don't read past chapter 1 and like yoonie said, the judgement tends to be made right at the start XD (I had quite a bit of a laugh reading your comment, yoonie LOL)

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That is sad... and disappointing. The "usual" people attracted to works in this genre are not expecting to read deeply into it, while the people usually not into this genre are better suited to analyze it. What a predicament, that I can't find a good solution for. But that brings me back to an adaptation done right that might widen its audience.

Maybe because there's quite a lot of work out there in this genre that is hard to take seriously lol
I hope this work can kickstart a sort of paradigm shift so people would think differently

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Orange

Also there's the issue of..if what I'm hoping for happens in a way that destroys the beauty of the story (or rather what I perceive as beautiful in this story)

Been meaning to ask you about what you said here... What do you perceive as beautiful in this story? :)

I hope this work can kickstart a sort of paradigm shift so people would think differently

That would be great! But most other works are not up to its caliber yet.

I always feel like typing just JPEG LOL

Haha, I always see it at the end of a file, so it is lowercase after a period, like .jpg. Do whatever you want. XD

Been meaning to ask you about what you said here... What do you perceive as beautiful in this story? :)

Jpegandtiff XD..there is something I have to do soon so I can't write too long but in brief, one of the things I'm most intrigued about is the irony. If Sumin comes back to Seju at the end, the irony is complete. The only way Seju gets Sumin back is by letting her go (in the truest sense of the word)

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What was that thread about? The debunked Seju and Nammi ship?

mainly childish reading.. taking things at their face value .. double standards, weakness in connecting ideas together and simply not taking dialogues seriously !.. the irony lays when they have the nerve to criticise a work that they don't remotely understand
they truly need to be spoon fed.. not just that, but also shocked in their faces!

Nora(h) to be fair, WDTFS is unlike most manhwa and manga. I think a lot of people, myself included, did not expect to need to put too much thought into a webtoon. On top of that, if they are not reading the official translation, they are reading a very different version. And the lack to definitive "good" and "bad" in the story invites people to bring their opinions and perspectives into discussion, hence you get different standards. I blame Gaji for not spoon feeding me XD.

Grape ;)

(Foxy lady shoutout)

If Sumin comes back to Seju at the end, the irony is complete.

Very interesting perspective, Orange. It is intriguing to me as well.

Jpegandtiff

Haha, nice one. XD I did say to do whatever you wanted.

That would be great! But most other works are not up to its caliber yet

I think it's a bit of a chicken and egg thing. Maybe other works are not of this caliber because the expectation (of publishers/fans/people) is not that high and it creates a self perpetuating cycle where work of a not-so-high standard just keeps "making the cut" for publication.

But I suppose there's also no accounting for taste XD...so if that's what the general public likes and expect..that's the kind of creative environment they will create..and eventually that's what they will get as well...No supply with no demand lol

Grape

XD I see that grape is the more popular fruit lol how sad XD

And the lack to definitive "good" and "bad" in the story invites people to bring their opinions and perspectives into discussion,

That is exactly the other thing I like about the story. No definitive good and bad - it's all very nuanced, much like how it is in reality. If everything is so black and white, how boring would that be XD
Even for life in monochrome, you'll need different shades of grey (ideally more than 50 even XD lol)

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so if that's what the general public likes and expect..that's the kind of creative environment they will create..and eventually that's what they will get as well...No supply with no demand lol

That is true, unfortunately. That might be why there is an entire section on Lezhin for BL. XD

XD I see that grape is the more popular fruit lol how sad XD

I actually like oranges a bit more. :) Depends on my mood, both are great.

Hi, I am new here. I have been reading WDTFS for quite some time now but haven't been on a forum before.

I would like to ask if any of you know other works by Team Gaji?

Hi, I am new here. I have been reading WDTFS for quite some time now but haven't been on a forum before.

I would like to ask if any of you know other works by Team Gaji?

nope.. this is their first serialisation. However, Gaji, the artist, published two one-shots independently from Lezhin and can be found for free
1- A Pet's Aesthetic
2- Fan art of Overwatch game.

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