Nora89

Sorry i should have put empty shell in quotes like this "empty shell" as she isn't an actually an empty shell but other characters perceived her as such.

Sumin realising that a part of her still loves Seju is her realising that she is not just an empty shell.

So yeah she was never an "empty shell"

true.. Sungji is the only one of Sumin's ex's

I don't count her as an ex (semantics) : p it's not over till it's over.

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Es0teric

When I read chapter 50, I thought Sumin was referring to her situation with Seju as why "it's different." The chapter mainly showed the reason why Sumin will always go back to Seju and why she was distant in her relationships. That reason is that she is still in love with Seju.

But you're right, her relationship with Sungji is different from the others as well. Sungji was inexperienced and probably the nicest girlfriend Sumin has had. She is also the one Sumin cheated on with, so there is guilt there. I would've read the chapter and story as a whole the way you had if it weren't for how developed and integrated Seju and Sumin's relationship is.

Take "Pulse" and "The Love Doctor" and maybe even "Beloved." The story that is being told is that a new relationship with a "breath of fresh air" character can heal past wounds and allow the main character to love truly again. The end couples are obvious and the past loves probably have no chance in getting back together with the main character.

But WDTFS is different. Seju never had to force Sumin to come back to her, she would always do it on her own. She never stopped loving her either.

Maybe I should have read the story like those mentioned above. The ending will correct or confirm this.

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Yeah it's not a typical love story. At the moment i haven't reached an ending couple decision, Sumin is at a cross road between old awakening feelings (Seju) and more recent new feelings (Sungji). Which ever way it ends it needs to be Sumins choice not one she is "pressured" into by either side (consciously or subconsciously).

You mentioned once that most people generally pick a side and not the person in the middle, in this case Yellow or Pink. I'm team Black (middle), neither ending to me is certain at this point.

I won't lie though, i am biased against Seju but i can understand her too.

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Es0teric

I won't lie though, i am biased against Seju but i can understand her too.

I can tell, but it's how you feel, so that's fine. At least you can understand her. So not that you're biased towards Sungji?

I'm waiting for a chapter where we see more of Sumin's inner thoughts or monologue about Sungji. Like chapter 31 of "Pulse," where "it's honestly refreshing" to wake up next to her. If WDTFS provides something like that and shows their love is deep, then the story will definitely sway towards Sungji and I will be convinced that it will go that way.

Which ever way it ends it needs to be Sumins choice not one she is "pressured" into by either side (consciously or subconsciously).

I agree. It's Sumin's choice in the end.

Methetruth

It still says the 8th/18th/28th for me. Maybe it depends on your region?

Or TG can use a classic kdrama technique: hit by a car and lose memory.

I sure hope not! XD that's taking the easy way out LOL

yoonie
hehe.. but Sumin broke up with a girl while eating her out and immediately jumped to Seju's bed.. ch50.. also, she gave in for sex in ch55 WHILE dating Sungji.. so this part shouldn't be much of your worries XD (oh wait, didn't Sumin cut off the sex session with Sungji in ch81 to pick Seju up XD)

You cant make a comparison between Sungji and other exes and we know it. She is different. The sex in chap 55 is for her to cut off with Seju, that was Seju's condition, Seju shouldnt be the one who asked for it when she knew Sumin was dating someone else. Most of that part is Seju's fault about the gettting caught in chap 55 and Sumin always had soft spot for Seju, she would give in. If we were about to blame, Seju and Sumin are both jerks in that chap

Anyway, this is an ending, its not some kind of plot twist or building drama like arc 2's ending so I dont want it to be an ending where one of them falls into "jerk" category or half-ass ending. I want a justified ending. This is one of the reasons why I dont go for SejuxSumin ending with the current events of wdtfs. Making Sumin come back to Seju right after Sungji left, even by Sungji's own will of realizing that Sumin might not be in love with her but with Seju or sth, it feels off. All the guilt, all the love, or maybe even pain when Sungji goes away suddenly disappears and she jumps right back to Seju.

I'll give this ending more thoughts when more events are revealed but as of now, honestly, SejuxSumin's ending is still a far question from another world XDDDDDD. Sungji might or might not leave but that doesnt make the other two a couple right after. That's a different story.

To make SejuxSumin an ending, its not impossible but hard as heck with this pace of the story and Sungji.

Sungji has all the needed pieces of the puzzle
Sumin, not yet
Nammi's appearance is to ensure the following:
1- she knows about the current arrangement and situation
2- she knows about everybody's feelings
3- she is no longer interested in Seju (getting public and serious about Bang Uri) and Seju is clearly annoyed by Nammi's presence
4- making sure that readers who didn't realise that the doctor in ch38 is in fact Nammi's father are now aware of this info clearly! (he is a surgeon and probably the one who was there when Sumin first got her scars)

connecting the dots is as usual, Nammi's job.. ch16, ch19, ch49, ch65 (and ch50 at least in Sumin's mind)

Like I said above, Sungji leaving, Sumin realizing her love or sth doesnt guarantee an ending for SejuxSumin. Its not. Seju and Sumin are in a state where they might both know they're in love with each other but to be back to be a couple again is not from that same equation.

This is what I draw out from the current events, I'll give this couple ending more credit if things changed in the future.

The series date released have been changed into 9th,19th,29th. Seems like the story won't end soon.

That's the official release date since the beginning of arc 3, they announced it by that date but we will have it at the previous night of that release date.

That is sth going on since the beginning of the series, tbh. Back in arc 1 and 2, they published regularly every Wednesday but in fact they released it every Tuesday night.

Es0teric

I won't lie though, i am biased against Seju but i can understand her too.

I can tell, but it's how you feel, so that's fine. At least you can understand her. So not that you're biased towards Sungji?

More just biased towards Seju.

Which ever way it ends it needs to be Sumins choice not one she is "pressured" into by either side (consciously or subconsciously).

I agree. It's Sumin's choice in the end.

I know you're talking to Esoteric but I want to butt in a little bit xDDDD.

Its not Sumin's choice in the end XDDD, its all three of them's choice in the end. For example:

Sumin chooses to be with Sungji in the end but Sungji chooses to leave in the end?
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Sungji chooses not to let go in the end?
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Seju chooses to let go in the end?

In fact, its about all of them's feeling, choice, decision for the end. This is not the typical triangle where the one in the middle makes a decision and we get our ending. It's not. This is not a mere love triangle but each main individual with their independent feelings and emotion as well as their own growing as a character.

ahhh now I feel like butting in as well XD lol

Sumin chooses to be with Sungji in the end but Sungji chooses to leave in the end? yeah it (them getting together) won't happen..The mutual-ness (i know this word doesn't technically exist but please bear with me XD) of the feeling is important
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Sungji chooses not to let go in the end? then sungji's just in denial...it's not strictly a pre-requisite for it to "not happen"
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Seju chooses to let go in the end? it won't happen as well

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yoonie0104

In fact, its about all of them's feeling, choice, decision for the end.

I get what you're saying. Seju's choice is clear at this point, she will not let go, if last chapter is any indication. She has said enough, her move has been made.

Sungji and Sumin are the ones we're waiting for. Sungji has to decide if the relationship is really what is right for her and Sumin still has to resolve her feelings.

Ultimately, it does come down to Sumin. Whichever relationship she chooses, she should be wholeheartedly for it, with nothing holding her back.

Feel free to butt in. XD

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ahhh now I feel like butting in as well XD lol

Sumin chooses to be with Sungji in the end but Sungji chooses to leave in the end? yeah it (them getting together) won't happen..The mutual-ness (i know this word doesn't technically exist but please bear with me XD) of the feeling is important
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Sungji chooses not to let go in the end? then sungji's just in denial...it's not strictly a pre-requisite for it to "not happen"
Sumin chooses to be with Seju in the end but Seju chooses to let go in the end? it won't happen as well

XDDD, I know thosec cases might not happen, I just give examples for the point I'm proving XDDDDD.

XDDD, I know thosec cases might not happen, I just give examples for the point I'm proving XDDDDD.

I meant the second example was a little off XD but nevertheless they were a good example to prove your point XD thanks for entertaining my butting in lol

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Lol i wasn't meaning it was only Sumins choice.

Life doesn't work that way, we're not the centers of the universe.

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yoonie0104
I get what you're saying. Seju's choice is clear at this point, she will not let go, if last chapter is any indication. She has said enough, her move has been made.
Sungji and Sumin are the ones we're waiting for. Sungji has to decide if the relationship is really what is right for her and Sumin still has to resolve her feelings.

Hmmm, I hope you do understand my points xDDDD.

Ultimately, it does come down to Sumin. Whichever relationship she chooses, she should be wholeheartedly for it, with nothing holding her back.

If I got to be straight, it's not all comes down to Sumin, its all comes down to Sungji xDDDDD. Sumin will not break up with Sungji no matter what kind of conclusion she will have after she sorted out her feelings for both of the girls xD, because of guilt and partly love. Sumin doesnt choose, the situations and the feeling of righteousness choose for her and she has to follow and honestly she cant choose xDDDD. No matter what kind of real feelings she has for each of the girls or who she chooses, the remaining girl will still bother her mind and there will be sth holding her back. For not having sth to hold her back, it depends on other two's decisions and words. It's mutual, the rope tangles all three of them.

Anyway, to me, Sumin grows as a character, so are Seju and Sungji. All three of them and their feelings, decisions make the ending, not just particular one character or the one in the middle.

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Feel free to butt in. XD

hehehehe

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yoonie0104

It's mutual, the rope tangles all three of them.

I feel the same way. It has to be mutual: a break-up and a make-up, for the ending to be satisfying.

XDDD, I know thosec cases might not happen, I just give examples for the point I'm proving XDDDDD.

I meant the second example was a little off XD

I knowwww XDDDD, the second and third one are quite funny to be an example xDDDDDDDDDDDD

yoonie0104
I feel the same way. It has to be mutual: a break-up and a make-up

This is pretty specific xDDDD. I think you already have one ending in your mind xDDD.

This is pretty specific xDDDD. I think you already have one ending in your mind xDDD.

True, it's the most obvious one at this point. Obvious in terms of where the story is going.

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True, it's the most obvious one at this point. Obvious in terms of where the story is going.

At this point I don't know if I want to be surprised by the ending or not XD

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Orange

At this point I don't know if I want to be surprised by the ending or not XD

You're hoping for a Sungji ending right? I guess surprise depends on perception.

When it ends, I will figure out if mine was right or not. If it isn't, then I'll have to view the manhwa differently. More like "Pulse," if that's what the authors wanted.

You're hoping for a Sungji ending right? I guess surprise depends on perception.

But what I'm hoping for isn't necessarily what I think will happen XD
Also there's the issue of..if what I'm hoping for happens in a way that destroys the beauty of the story (or rather what I perceive as beautiful in this story) then maybe I'd rather not get what I'm hoping for after all lol (humans are hard to please XD)

Although I must admit I do have a soft spot for Sungji lol

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Also there's the issue of..if what I'm hoping for happens in a way that destroys the beauty of the story (or rather what I perceive as beautiful in this story) then maybe I'd rather not get what I'm hoping for after all lol (humans are hard to please XD)

Haha, I see you're conflicted. I also see why you'd have a soft spot for Sungji. She is very innocent (or was). But if these last few chapters are any indication, maybe the relationship is not what is best for her. I don't like seeing her stressed and insecure.

I don't like seeing her stressed and insecure

Yes my poor Sungji lol

The End ;-)