I am actually a fish in disguise. Mystery beyond the water surface roused my curiosity and desire. One day I took a leap of faith, that was how I died.

Lol welcome to the world above water. If you take another leap of faith I wonder where you'll end up

I am actually a fish in disguise. Mystery beyond the water surface roused my curiosity and desire. One day I took a leap of faith, that was how I died.

Lol welcome to the world above water. If you take another leap of faith I wonder where you'll end up

Not sure, but experience tells me I will die.

Hey Es0teric. I'm gonna be quick. You have a discord account, right? Mind if I add you?

Hey Es0teric. I'm gonna be quick. You have a discord account, right? Mind if I add you?

Yeah you can add me, i'm not on it heaps though. You can find me on here https://discord.gg/dkupZfZ.

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Yeah you can add me, i'm not on it heaps though. You can find me on here https://discord.gg/dkupZfZ.

Thanks maaaaaaaaaan!

I have two, one on each foot.

hahahhahaha... just got it XDDD hahahaha

I just remembered another female singer (whom I have as a perspective waifu in another dimension): Diane Birch
hehe it could be her cute accent or vantage Newyork-er music style.

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Good God.. discussing Homosexuallity and Asexuallity vs. Religion with some of the most conservative communities.. I think I am addicted to shooting myself in the foot XD

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Good God.. discussing Homosexuallity and Asexuallity vs. Religion with some of the most conservative communities.. I think I am addicted to shooting myself in the foot XD

Job related or self-inflicted and how did it go? Conservatives, usually older folks, have already developed value and belief. Homosexuality is something that contradicts their value. I am curious on how you guys approach this topic.

Job related or self-inflicted and how did it go?

went well.. I used facts and played it safe.. same approach I use always XD.. it went nice.. I gave some resources and interpretation .. and left some loose ends. Not job related, but somehow it's a responsibility

Conservatives, usually older folks, have already developed value and belief. Homosexuality is something that contradicts their value. I am curious on how you guys approach this topic.

not old folks, but rather a strongly traditional and religious community.. but Homosexuality/Asexuality is not the real issue, but sexual ignorance is.

Job related or self-inflicted and how did it go? Conservatives, usually older folks, have already developed value and belief. Homosexuality is something that contradicts their value. I am curious on how you guys approach this topic.

Better to educate the younger generation but the first step is truly separating religion from government. In many western societies in particular we believe we are secular but often that is an illusion. Australia is a good example. I think because religious communities often believe the government is susceptible to their beliefs, they believe have a firmer grasp on what is wrong or right. If that makes sense?

To be honest I believe religion holds us back but i'm fine with people having a belief, it should though just be a personal one that does not encroach on others.

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Job related or self-inflicted and how did it go?

went well.. I used facts and played it safe.. same approach I use always XD.. it went nice.. I gave some resources and interpretation .. and left some loose ends. Not job related, but somehow it's a responsibility

Conservatives, usually older folks, have already developed value and belief. Homosexuality is something that contradicts their value. I am curious on how you guys approach this topic.

not old folks, but rather a strongly traditional and religious community.. but Homosexuality/Asexuality is not the real issue, but sexual ignorance is.

Glad to hear it went well. Sexual ignorance in a first world country in the internet age is quite odd...

Job related or self-inflicted and how did it go? Conservatives, usually older folks, have already developed value and belief. Homosexuality is something that contradicts their value. I am curious on how you guys approach this topic.

Better to educate the younger generation but the first step is truly separating religion from government. In many western societies in particular we believe we are secular but often that is an illusion. Australia is a good example. I think because religious communities often believe the government is susceptible to their beliefs, they believe have a firmer grasp on what is wrong or right. If that makes sense?

To be honest I believe religion holds us back but i'm fine with people having a belief, it should though just be a personal one that does not encroach on others.

Yea, I don't really care what people worship either as long as it does not turn into a hate crime.

Es0teric

even if you do separate religion from the state, we are still dealing with scriptures interpretations within the culture.. and I don't blame religion for every misunderstanding towards the LGBTQ.. because I don't assume that all atheists, non-religious individuals are understanding. (Atheists could be somewhat understanding not because they are welcoming but because they felt the burn of being discriminated ) .. oh God, the hypocrite atheists are really something!.. they tell me that they are okay with two girls kissing but two guys is two yuk for him/her hehehehe, the hell is that!

To be honest I believe religion holds us back but i'm fine with people having a belief, it should though just be a personal one that does not encroach on others.

remember what I mentioned about rituals and customs:

they are a part of our human creation that at some point embodied wisdom and reasoning.. with time, people memic them automotically and forget the essence of them. That's when those customs and rituals lose their meanings from enriching our lives to restraining it.

same is applicable to religion. It should never ever stop our nature or hinder us.

Glad to hear it went well. Sexual ignorance in a first world country in the internet age is quite odd...

I was not talking to Germans.. but my homies XD

there is a saying about this religious thing: you can worship a stone, just don't throw me with it.

my humble self, was never a christian nor my family was.. and still you may find me one day enjoying a sunday at a church.. practicing Ramadan.. going to a temple on the other day.. then later I become so obsessed about Taoism & confucianism XD

Es0teric, I don't know which is worse..believing that we are secular when it is only an illusion, or not believing in secularity at all (which is what's happening in some places). It's much harder to change when we don't think there's anything wrong with what we're doing..X.X

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hehehe the last topic get me singing
Hozier - Take Me To Church

I have a crush on him so bad he makes me question my gayness XDDD

My church offers no absolutes
She tells me 'worship in the bedroom'
The only heaven I'll be sent to
Is when I'm alone with you
I was born sick, but I love it
Command me to be well
Amen. Amen. Amen

No masters or kings when the ritual begins
There is no sweeter innocence than our gentle sin
In the madness and soil of that sad earthly scene
Only then I am human
Only then I am clean
Amen. Amen. Amen

why do I think he was singing about some good private time XDDD

why do I think he was singing about some good private time XDDD

Hahahaha! The song is only as dirty as the mind XD

why do I think he was singing about some good private time XDDD

Hahahaha! The song is only as dirty as the mind XD

heheh.. not like I could deny that ! XD

I might be a Pink fan.. but this pink is just too yukkk.. why don't they replace it with coffee or mango.. I don't know maybe salty caramel flavor

:((
is there anyone really who likes strawberry ice-cream

is there anyone really who likes strawberry ice-cream

Of course that's gonna be me. Mind to feed me...m?

is there anyone really who likes strawberry ice-cream

Of course that's gonna be me. Mind to feed me...m?

NOPE .. I don't want you dead XDDD (even then, this product is actually lactose free.. so rest assured, after having it, your guts won't suffer XDDD)

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NOPE .. I don't want you dead XDDD (even then, this product is actually lactose free.. so rest assured, after having it, your guts won't suffer XDDD)

How sad... I was ready for some fun...like the biggest fun ever in my life

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How sad... I was ready for some fun...like the biggest fun ever in my life

Wait! Did I just miss a flirt ? O_0

Dammit..I keep doing that !
Anyways.. we are out of strawberry.. would you like some peach?

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Wait! Did I just missed a flirt ? O_0
Dammit..I keep doing that !

lol A lot flirting happens in this forum.

lol A lot flirting happens in this forum.

sigh.. I miss the good part ALWAYS !! XD

being out of the market for a long time, intensifies flirts ignorance XD