I'm just saying Japan has more problems than shitty hentai.
And yeah, I didn't mean to defend this manga and the thing about open relationships wasn't directed at you. :)

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I'm just saying Japan has more problems than shitty hentai.
And yeah, I didn't mean to defend this manga and the thing about open relationships wasn't directed at you. :)

It's alright don't worry :) and I understand what you were trying to say <:)

To be fair to that kind of hentai, sometimes I read it to make myself angry. It's pretty good at that.

I should see a doctor.

I don't think this is all that without love, just the annoying 'we're actually best friends' kind. But I do think the two girls share a love. I'm just not sure I trust it given what I've heard of the mangaka.

that's the only shit that bothers me about Japan honestly...

It shouldn't be though.

And open relationships exist, guys. Problem is this is a hentai so it doesn't focus on the relationships.

They are not in open relationship. If one girl would see someone else and other girl would be ok with that, that would be open relationship. They both are just ok with idea that while they both love each other, they enjoy letting third wheel in and having sex with them. That is mutual consent, not open relationship.

Whatever it is, I'll give them the benefit of doubt.

Whatever it is, I'll give them the benefit of doubt.

Yeah, I think they are indeed a couple, but of course it's just hentai so it's ambiguous if they're really a couple or just "best friends", but if they don't say anything about being just friends or anyone end up with a dick, I don't mind this ambiguity.

Seriously who gets off to stuff like that? 98% of all hentai involves rape of women young girls, and CHILDREN...

98% a bit much here...

Also dropping this shit...it's obvious that it's going to get nowhere other than the icational fuckfest they are legit just the representations of hentai females (the typical sex craz sluts... cause that's how women are represented in hentai...)

Why so slut shaming? If a girl likes the D or the V a lot that's her business.

Seriously who gets off to stuff like that? 98% of all hentai involves rape of women young girls, and CHILDREN...

98% a bit much here...

Also dropping this shit...it's obvious that it's going to get nowhere other than the icational fuckfest they are legit just the representations of hentai females (the typical sex craz sluts... cause that's how women are represented in hentai...)

Why so slut shaming? If a girl likes the D or the V a lot that's her business.

Your right calling them sluts would be an insult to actual sluts. Honestly I want to apologize for my rude language it wasn't necessary. Also I never said anything about a girl liking dicks or Vaginas O.O everyone can like whatever they want when it comes to sexual preferences LMAO. I am not talking about actual REAl women and young women. O.O in fact I am only saying how stupidly hentai portray women to be. That was all. I never said anything about what women can like or not. 98% is a bit too much ? Your right it's 100% what most of it is about. Don't try to defend it because you know it's the truth. I'm not shaming anyone who watches porn anyone can do what they want in their private time. I am simply talking about hentai specifically, and though it is a type of "porn" it's the worst type because of the shit that they show.

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Your right calling them sluts would be an insult to actual sluts.

They're two horny teenagers that want to have sex, don't see why they can't be called sluts.

98% is a bit too much ? Your right it's 100% what most of it is about. Don't try to defend it because you know it's the truth.

No, it's not the truth, there is hundred of thousands of hentais out there and just part of it uses rape or children, you don't like them? Okay, but don't talk as if you know all hentai, there's a lot of hentai that have romance and good story, you're just generalizing because you don't like it, because it's pretty obvious that you didn't read a lot of hentai as you think it's all about rape and pedo, and I know that it's not because I read hentai.

I am simply talking about hentai specifically, and though it is a type of "porn" it's the worst type because of the shit that they show.

Riiiiight, becase it's not like there's hudrends of porn sites that are only about rape, slavery, degradation of woman and worse, maybe except for guro there's a lot of porn that does the same thing as hentais, even some that try to make pedo-like movies using girls that look really young, specially japanese sites that try to do porn that looks exactly like hentai.

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98% is a bit too ? Your right it's 100% what most of it is about. Don't try to defend it because you know it's the truth. I am simply talking about hentai specifically, and though it is a type of "porn" it's the worst type because of the shit that they show.

Well through my numerous fapping sessions, I'm sort of an expert*(TM) on the subject. I can say that my taste are 99.995% vanilla and I find quite enough content to satisfy my needs. So no it isn't the truth, you're like those anti-rape/het people that complain about it after reading. If you don't enjoy anything less than fluffy vanilla, then exclude tags / specify your search.

Speaking of specifying, you say it's a the worst type of porn. H-content both contains tame vanilla stories and the most crazy things like breast enlargment, birth sex, vore and so on. Not everything is "horrible"

It's like watching porn, pretty sure if I say I watch some nice ball-busting BDSM most of my fellow men would look at me weirdly.
Remember, Hentai is a subgenre of pornography, but within that genre there's sub-sub genres.

Just like Rock > Metal > Death Metal > Symphonic Death Metal

TL;DR Porn is srs business, apply yourself.

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They're two horny teenagers that want to have sex, don't see why they can't be called sluts.

At this point I'm not even talking about the girls in this specific manga I'm talking about all hentai in general. I kind of stop talking about this specific manga when I got too into the whole hentai crap. Again like I said I apologize for using the word "slut" it was unnecessary.

No, it's not the truth, there is hundred of thousands of hentais out there and just part of it uses rape or children, you don't like them? Okay, but don't talk as if you know all hentai, there's a lot of hentai that have romance and good story, you're just generalizing because you don't like it, because it's pretty obvious that you didn't read a lot of hentai as you think it's all about rape and pedo, and I know that it's not only rape and pedo because I read hentai.

Your right I don't read a lot of hentai, but the few times I was expose to it it was pretty obvious what most of them were about. I'm not saying there those few that don't "have those things" but that's they thing that's only a few in a pile of "rape" RAPE and MORE RAPE."

Riiiiight, becase it's not like there's hudrends of porn sites that are only about rape, slavery, degradation of woman and worse, maybe except for guro there's a lot of porn that does the same thing as a hentais, even some that try to make pedo-like movies using girls that look really young, specially japanese porn sites.

First I am the type of person that just isn't into porn in general, so how would I know about the hundreds of sites that do these to of shit to women? I wouldn't (actually now that you tell me this crap there is another reason for me to hate porn in general) also I simply was talking about what I was expose too -------> hentai. Now keep in mind (back to talking about this book) these are fictional characters and I don't look at them as real females for me they are just some persons "idea" of how young females would "act if they were real horny" I guess. (Away from the manga again). Why do you think I said, this is what bothers me of Japan?

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Well through my numerous fapping sessions, I'm sort of an expert*(TM) on the subject. I can say that my taste are 99.995% vanilla and I find quite enough content to satisfy my needs. So no it isn't the truth, you're like those anti-rape/het people that complain about it after reading. If you don't enjoy anything less than fluffy vanilla, then exclude tags / specify your search.

Speaking of specifying, you say it's a the worst type of porn. H-content both contains tame vanilla stories and the most crazy things like breast enlargment, birth sex, vore and so on. Not everything is "horrible"

It's like watching porn, pretty sure if I say I watch some nice ball-busting BDSM most of my fellow men would look at me weirdly.
Remember, Hentai is a subgenre of pornography, but within that genre there's sub-sub genres.

Just like Rock > Metal > Death Metal > Symphonic Death Metal

TL;DR Porn is srs business, apply yourself.

Alright I'll say this once more what you do in your private time is your prob. Good for you that you aren't into the rape shit. I never said that everyone was into that stuff. I was saying "who would ever get off those type of hentai" which are the majority of almost all hentai. If you guys are bothered by my number fine I'm going to say 80% happy now?

Alright I'll say this once more what you do in your private time is your prob. Good for you that you aren't into the rape shit. I never said that everyone was into that stuff. I was saying "who would ever get off those type of hentai" which are the majority of almost all hentai. If you guys are bothered by my number fine I'm going to say 80% happy now.

I'm quite happy. A number randomly tossed out by someone who admitedly knows litle of the subject is now an expert on how much content is of which tag.

I think there's a near little thing for that... Oh, I got it! Confirmation bias.

I'm quite happy. A number randomly tossed out by someone who admitedly knows litle of the subject is now an expert on how much content is of which tag.

I think there's a near little thing for that... Oh, I got it! Confirmation bias.

Alright it seems that you didn't understand the reason for my number O.o my number wast to prove an actual fact but a point that I wanted to make. My point was (to make you happy I'll add no number because it's true I shouldn't estimate without actual prove apologize)
My point is WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY is that simply most of hentai an actual good amount is about rape and the rape of children and young females. Portrays them as "wanting to be raped" or "learn to be fine with the rape". This isn't just me being some type of anti rape dictator. BUT who the hell is ok with rape of any type ? Boy or girl O.O rape is just not good for any type of sex. Also and I might even stir things up with what I'm about to say... But another reason for hating hentai is the bad rep that it gives to anime fans... Why? For those not familiar with anime will automatically think that all anime fans are just for perverted freaks because of hentai. Hell even some goddamn anime now days are overdoing it with the damn fanservice which doesn't fucking help either. I seem to have hit a nerve with you because you seem to be into hentai or at least you have your experience with it. But you. Can't tell me that this shit doesn't happened in hentai A LOT.

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Minor Nez Note

FFS calm down people. No need to get all snippy at each other.

"who would ever get off those type of hentai"

I'm a woman and I enjoy reading hentais about rape. Does that mean that I want to be raped? Hell no. You don't like how women are portrayed in hentai. We got that. No one said you have to. You seem to be one of those people who thinks if someone is enjoying rape/pedophile/whatever hentai, that must means he wants to do it in real life. It is just fantasy. No one takes it seriously. From what you said, it's clear you got no clue what you are talking about. Please. You are just embarrassing yourself so stop.

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My point is WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY is that simply most of hentai an actual good amount is about rape and the rape of children and young females.

The rape tag is about 15% of H-manga uploads on sad panda. Most of them past pubery, loli is actually quite a small portion, it's a niche audience, which makes sense considering.

Portrays them as "wanting to be raped" or "learn to be fine with the rape". This isn't just me being some type of anti rape dictator.

Now this is the first valid point you've made, and I agree. It's one thing for rape to occur, it's another to end as a cumdumpster living only for the D of your fat old man gangbangers.
But I raise you this question, what if I self insert as the rape victim because I have these sort of fantasies? Would you be willing to say that I'm wrong? It's no longer the character who's being attacked, it's me in my fantasies. What then?

BUT who the hell is ok with rape of any type?

I'm okay with any fictional rape, they aren't real. Just like I'm okay with fiction murder, fictional slavery, fictional world destruction, etc.

But another reason for hating hentai is the bad rep that it gives to anime fans... Why? For those not familiar with anime will automatically think that all anime fans are just for perverted freaks because of hentai. Hell even some goddamn anime now days are overdoing it with the damn fanservice which doesn't fucking help either.

But they're right, most anime either target a young teenage audience or rabid Otaku fanbase. Manga is the superior patrician taste.

Also, why do you care what normalfags think of your hobby, seriously. They are inferior beings not privy to the wonders of the incredible nippon entertainment.

Edit: It's alright Nez, I'll debate with kindness now. Pls no deleto, I "worked" hard.

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"who would ever get off those type of hentai"

I'm a woman and I enjoy reading hentais about rape. Does that mean that I want to be raped? Hell now. You don't like how women are portrayed in hentai. We got that. No one said you have to. You seem to be one of those people who thinks if someone is enjoying rape/pedophile/whatever hentai, that must means he wants to do it in real life. It is just fantasy. No one takes it seriously. From what you said, it's clear you got no clue what you are talking about. Please. You are just embarrassing yourself so stop.

Wow hung that's too much information, don't, classify yourself as a woman. You make it sound like every woman wants to get raped... I'm a woman? (Why was it that important for you to say that?) I don't want to get raped (did I identify my gender ? No) and I pretty much speak for a lot of people (both genders) and the fact that we prefer not to get raped. Now if your a masachist and enjoy that type of shit share that with like who ever you get together with... Not us. Actually there was no reason for you to even say "I am a woman and I like to get raped" what are you trying to prove by saying that? O.o please refrain from sharing personal stuff online...
Actually are you even a woman? O.o if you are I apologize but seriously, but even if you are into that type of stuff what kind of person would announce that ?>.>...
I don't know what I am talking about? So you are trying to say that I don't know what I am talking about? What does that say about you? Please re read you message again and try to actually say it outload and you'll know how crazy you sound. Keep your fetishes to yourself please.

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"who would ever get off those type of hentai"

I'm a woman and I enjoy reading hentais about rape. Does that mean that I want to be raped? Hell now. You don't like how women are portrayed in hentai. We got that. No one said you have to. You seem to be one of those people who thinks if someone is enjoying rape/pedophile/whatever hentai, that must means he wants to do it in real life. It is just fantasy. No one takes it seriously. From what you said, it's clear you got no clue what you are talking about. Please. You are just embarrassing yourself so stop.

Wow hung that's too much information, don't, classify yourself as a woman. You make it sound like every woman wants to get raped...
I'm a woman I don't want to get rape and I pretty much speak for a lot of people (both genders) and the fact that we prefer not to get raped. Now if your a masachist and enjoy that type of shit share that with like who ever you get together with... Not us. Actually there was no reason for you to even say "I am a woman and I like to get raped" what are you trying to prove by saying that? O.o please refrain from sharing personal stuff online...

Actual rape =/= rape fantasy
There's a difference.

Also, Discussing fetishes on a mainly pornagraphic website should be A-OK in my books ;)

Edit: Woaw, Ushio just went full prude.

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Actual rape =/= rape fantasy
There's a difference.

Also, Discussing fetishes on a mainly pornagraphic website should be A-OK in my books ;)

Edit: Woaw, Ushio just went full prude.

Thanks captain obvious because I def not know the difference between fantasy and reality :D.
I feel as if now I am getting trolled so I will leave it at this lmao
I have a date to go too so I smell you later brother and sisters!!
Have a good day and may we be friends in the future and this small topic may it not get in our way of normal conversations in the near future !! hugs and kisses bye~

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Nez Note

DID I FUCKING STUTTER?

Can we PLEASE cut it the fuck out with getting personal at each other? You can wrangle about issues all day, but shit like "Actually are you even a woman?" are downright embarrassing to read.

Tone it down immediately, or I start deleting shit.

Nez Note

DID I FUCKING STUTTER?

Can we PLEASE cut it the fuck out with getting personal at each other? You can wrangle about issues all day, but shit like "Actually are you even a woman?" are downright embarrassing to read.

Tone it down immediately, or I start deleting shit.

Uh oh we made Nez mad O.O
trembles
I'm sorry!!!
Also yeah I just realized how ridicules that statement sound Bahahahahaha I'm too lazy to change so I'll leave it, let my pride be also damage by it I don't mind it just for today xD.
Also I'm real sorry :(
I'm good like I won't say anything anymore xD

Hell now.

Sigh. Note to self. Never write something when you are half asleep. I was editing this post like 10 times because it had so much mistakes. Missed that one, but man, can't you really tell obvious typo when you see one? I'm no native speaker so I sometimes screw up spelling. I thought point I was trying to make was kinda obvious though. Oh well. Not like I care.

People tell you that hentais that you are so disgusted with are not really that common. Majority of it is actually your normal romance with a lot of sex. You must only saw few hentais and only the harder one. Bad first impression. Sucks to be you. Still it feels like you either didn't read what others write or didn't want to accept it because you are so blinded by you hater of hentai.

Rape fantasy is common fantasy, even for woman. Doctors says it's nothing abnormal and you shouldn't worry about it. It's truly fantasy of being wanted so bad that someone is ready to rape you. Generally even in fantasy it's usually way less brutal and violent than in reality. Most people just see it as really passionate sex. Seriously. Read it up.

About portraying most girls as wanting sex. Are you guys even serious at this point? It is porn. It mostly created by men for men. Obviously they will make females horny as hell and coming at protagonist or whoever, so they can self insert and fap to it. Those are just means to get turned on. Whatever works work. It doesn't mean anything, like 95% of time, what you are fapping to. It's like 5 minutes of your life. Who gives a crap.

Ushio. I don't mind civil discussion, but you are clearly going to stick to your idea of "hentai is evil" no matter what someone tell you. Even when you yourself said you don't read and know that much about hentais, somehow you still feel like expert and are lecturing everyone else about how evil it is. Your last post, typo or not, made it clear to me. There is just no point talking with you.

Err note to nez I'm just going to make something clear and I'll stop this also I hope we all stop this conversation as well. But since it was a reply to me about the topic I must comply and enswer. Nevri; it's cool about your spelling I'm not a native English speaker myself so it's cool. Your right I'm no expert in Hentai I only am telling about what I was expose to. Whether there being "good" hentai or not, we can't turn the other way and say that a lot of stuff in hentai does involve "some" or quite a lot of what I mentioned. Now I will take in Consideration to what you guys said and say that ok "sure there might be good hentai out there". Perhaps I came in to aggressive which is understandable to why most people would be hostile. As for hentai being evil, well as long as it's not destroying the world and turning people into craz murderers I don't think it's evil. Do I find it appealing and ethically moral? No. But hey again this is my opinion so I guess everyone else has their own about it. Don't misjudge me though I may feel strong and passionate about a topic at the end of the day I try to be rational and listen to others even if I wasn't letting my arm twist for most of it. Why well because like you I feel like what I am saying has some truth to it. I will change my view of hentai BUT for the most part it will still be very much unappealing to me. I know it's obviously porn so that's another way for me not to get into it.
No one in this site knows who we really are and I'll share something with you that even though I'll share I still be anamous. I didn't have the best childhood, (I'm sure many of us at some point were there). Grew up without a father and then to see my mother get together with a guy that abused her (since I'm Hispanic hitting your children is no big deal, so me getting hit was like a norm). Then I was molested by a family member of mine an older cousin. And I grew up trying to at the same time protect my younger sister from seeing the things i did. Moving on from this. I don't look for pity but just understanding. Yes I might of been hateful towards hentai because of what I was expose to it but I had a reason. Just like many people in the world have a reason to feel a certain way about something. So what might be ok for some it isn't for others and I guess that goes for me as well. I shouldn't just expect for everyone to think like me lol. That's no how the world works. Over all I want to apologize for been seen as insensitive and hard headed. I do not want to be seen that way because I really am a person of change and understanding. Or at least I strive to be lol. Again no hard feeling and I will respect your opinion toward what your saying. Let's a just drop this subject honestly :)

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I'm really glad you said it, because you did came of as jerk. Everything you said is correct, so I'm happy too we can move on. Quoting myself: "No one said you have to." (like hentai). Also sharing you story probably took a lot of courage, so more love to you <3

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