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Selene
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While we can't know for sure yet, I got the impression that as Yumimi became interested in and got closer to Nononon, she decided that a teasing approach was the best way to get closer by inches, without Nononon freaking out. Because Nononon freaks out pretty easily, it appears. By slowly getting her used to these things Yumimi could get closer without scaring her off. Whether that's actually a good approach or whether that's actually what she's doing, is up for debate of course.

Also

White Rose said:
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That was pretty awesome and informative, thank you.

Selene
Image Comments 20 Nov 23:48
Yuri%20ultimate
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Yes~~~ I'm so happy to see this here.

Selene
Image Comments 16 Nov 01:19
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Actually, considering Kyumaki's spoiler above, it's actually Psuedo-Incest

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This actually looks pretty fun.

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The LN imo is def better, we get to hear more about what they are thinking in their POV's and more events that we didnt see in either manga or anime adaptations. I like the anime adaptation too because without it me and many others wouldn't of started reading this

Portraying a person's thoughts in film/TV is pretty challenging. Internal monologue, which is very natural to prose, easily turns into a boring and uncinematic voiceover-fest (cough Hanamonogatari cough) if the screenwriting isn't creative enough.

I've read all three versions here on Dynasty, and I have to agree, I think the LN is the best, hands down. (I'm waiting for the anime season to finish since I know I'm going to want to binge it.) The thing with this series is that it's not an action series. This series is all about the internal monologue, so adapting it to manga/TV is going to be a lot tougher than it would be for other series.

I've heard good things about the anime so I'm looking forward to it. But if you saw the anime first and are coming here now, I definitely recommend the LN.

Selene
VAMPEERZ discussion 10 Nov 01:48
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Using manipulated pictures to save time creating backgrounds is a very valid way to save time in the professional art world. I personally think they fit in well enough and serve their purpose haha. Do you guys feel like these things take away from the reading experience? I’m really curious. Thank you~

I'm not sure. In most works, it seems to either be used for very specific things (food, city-scapes) or as a one-off background. This author is the only one I can remember off the top of my head who uses them so extensively, but in this particular case I like it. His characters are so highly detailed and accurate in pretty much every way, including their poses and actions. So I feel like it matches his style very well.

For other authors...it doesn't really bother me, but it tends to stick out a bit more, so I take note of it. I suppose it's more important that it doesn't clash with the rest of the art.

Selene
Image Comments 10 Nov 01:28
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@lord-or-roses: I laughed. Also, as long as she washed her hand before sending it through the portal, that actually seems like a very GOOD way to social distance AND get your (extremely lewd) hand-holding.

Selene
Image Comments 10 Nov 01:24
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This is, strangely hilarious. XD Also, Lots of Kissing?

Selene
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joined Feb 5, 2015

The overall message of the manga is that it's fine to like girls while being a girl and that they like girls because they're girls, so while I agree beginning might seem misleading as if Yae was trans, it's actually part of exploration of her identity and those themes leading to ultimate conclusion that she's fine the way she is.

Ah, yes, that's what I was trying to say I think ^_^;

It sounds like gay-marriage is not a issue anymore? In America, sure, but in most of the world, especially in Japan, it's still a big issue.

And, I suppose that was me leaning too much into generalizations, forgetting that our bubble here on this site is just that, a bubble, and trying to be too optimistic.. In my area of America it doesn't seem much progress has been made over the last ten years. It's quite frustrating. And I should definitely have had more consideration for other areas of the world before saying what I did, you're right. I normally do.

But...the fact that we talk about it as much as we do, that some countries at least are starting to come around, that more people are realizing just how natural it is.. Well, I think it's good to have that hope, especially here in 2020, where everything else seems to be going wrong.

Selene
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joined Feb 5, 2015

Oh gosh I love how mom helps with the clothes in this version! (At least, I don't think she did in the original..maybe I'm wrong.) And the second editor taking a look at her manga..

Anyway, I was looking again at the tags for this series and really enjoying the combination of Blushing, Height Gap, Wholesome...and it hit me. I think we need a Thirsty tag. I can think of a few other series that could definitely use it too. And just the idea that this series can use both the Wholesome and Thirsty tags together really makes me smile..

Selene
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joined Feb 5, 2015

Damn, I just realized these were all in the same anthology; I can't believe I didn't notice that. This anthology is now going on my favorites list. I hope the rest is scanlated soon!

Selene
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joined Feb 5, 2015

Time for another re-read!

I love this manga, and I've reread it so many times, but I always get put off by the accidental trans subtext of Yae. It's really frustrating watching a character that seems... Pretty aggressively dysphoric just get handwaved as having a deep seated complex related to their attraction to women. Yae says at multiple points they wish they were born a boy, is deeply uncomfortable when they're referred to as girly and especially when their boobs get emphasized, and is absolutely pissed when it's assumed they're not the "man in the relationship", and the list goes on. (THEY LITERALLY BIND AT THE START) As a trans person, it makes a hot story that I really like pretty hard to read when the mangaka sets that up only to justify it away.

I really only have great things to say about Hanjuku Joshi otherwise, which makes that a huge shame.

Hmm, I honestly never thought to look at it thru that perspective. I am cis-female and I felt the same way as Yae at that age, so I suppose it could be seen from various angles?

I think Yae is more somewhere in the middle. If you look at this:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hanjuku_joshi_ch03#13
you see that it isn't just as straight-forward as "I want to be a boy". More, those feelings are shown later to be at least partially from a broken heart, so it may be more of a self-image thing than actually being trans. I'm no expert, of course, but that was my thought..

We have to remember when this was made. If it was done today, it might certainly seem a bit tone-deaf. But considering back then gay-marriage was a big issue, I don't think the author meant to have such implications.

last edited at Oct 28, 2020 7:30AM

Selene
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joined Feb 5, 2015

I'm surprised no one's mentioned this yet, but that's a low-key confession, isn't it? I mean, Koguma-chan has clearly been slowly recognizing her feelings, and been growing more comfortable with Hino-san despite all her embarrassed protests. For all that Hino-san is enjoying teasing her and putting her in perverted and embarrassing situations, she's been keeping Koguma-chan at arms length whenever things get serious.

Here, Koguma-chan refuses to be kept at arms lengthin a serious moment, and instead forces herself into a compromising position with Hino-san deliberately, basically declaring that she's not joking around anymore. I so can't wait to see what happens after this.

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joined Feb 5, 2015

I'll be back to edit this in a second, I just want to say. "AsukaTomoko Vampire Trick" and Biting
Instant favorite.

Edit:
can not actually express her inner fangirl due to gross blood loss

last edited at Oct 22, 2020 12:59AM

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joined Feb 5, 2015

I swear, Adachi's mom expected another sauna duel there. :D

She totally was. :D

But oh my god Shimamura's Mom~~! We knew this meeting had to happen eventually. I am so looking forward to seeing this conversation she has with her daughter now. And I hope we get more meetings of the mom's in the future.

Selene
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Hey, we got one panel with the both of them (sorta) in it--what more do you want?

I know, right? Even open endings tie up some loose ends, if not the main question (hence, leaving it open.) From Uta's perspective an open ending might make sense, and we do see some of that with Kuroe and her going to university, but what about Kaoru? If we never had Kaoru's perspective, only Uta's, it wouldn't matter. But the author gave multiple perspectives in this story, including what I linked about.

Kaoru realizes Uta really did love her, but then never thinks about that again? What about Reiichi? What are his thoughts on this? Did he even find out about what his sister confessed to his ex-wife? After Ritsuko becomes the antagonist and lays it out for Kaoru, she's never seen again? She's a one-trick character?

On another note, is everyone thinking that the fact they're living together means they got together? Because my impression was more of a status-quo, still unrequited love. Which, again, open ending, sure. But it feels more like the author just stopped halfway through the story rather than even trying to write out an ending that was open to interpretation.

Edit:
As far as it not being a separate apartment though, Uta was trying to use a key to get in.

last edited at Oct 19, 2020 3:55PM

Selene
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Seriously? Whether or not they get together, the story could have gone either way. My shipper heart isn't so unreasonable as to say the story sucks simply because the relationship didn't work out. But this isn't a climax. This entire chapter is nothing but an epilogue. And if the previous confrontation at the bus stop was supposed to be the climax, it's only half finished.

Is this supposed to be an open ending? Because if it is it's a huge letdown after the extremely detailed drama and angst buildup over the story. So much thought put into this to at the end go "so yeah, they finally confronted each other and here's a look at a few years later and maybe they did maybe they didn't. Oh well."

link brackets are currently not working?
You can't show something like this:
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch35#21
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch35#22
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/my_unrequited_love_ch35#23
and then not show her conclusion.

What the fuck?

Selene
School Zone discussion 06 Oct 17:23
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joined Feb 5, 2015

Trying to figure out whether Yamashiro is an airhead or a mastermind.

Wouldn't be surprised if Kaname overslept just for the sake of getting those two to spend some time together, it's always the goofy ones.

I knew it! She totally did that on purpose. She totally set them up.

Piyo has a girlfriend now. Let's see how long it takes her to notice.

Truth.

This also confirms my suspicions from the pocky confrontation. I never got the feeling Kaname was into Piyo too, it felt more like a challenge or tease to get Piyo to reveal her true feelings. (Not that Kaname didn't already know.) And she's been so happy trying to push these two together to become friends.

last edited at Oct 6, 2020 5:27PM

Selene
School Zone discussion 05 Oct 12:36
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Kaname is best girl.

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joined Feb 5, 2015

It's called The Frontier, you can find it by clicking the Language Gap tag.

Wait. we have a Language Gap tag now?! I was just thinking that we needed one! I love it and this needs to be the next yuri trend. They've done just about every other gap, after all........ sees herself out

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joined Feb 5, 2015

what with her want to die but it have to be the mermaid the one who do it ? those two has nothing to do with it other ( but i guess choose to die under a beautifull girl is better eh )

I don't think she actually chose? that monster got her first and tried to eat her, but the mermaid "saved" her without her actually wanting to be saved, the mermaid just wanted to uhh protect her food i'd say :V

I think they meant at the end of chapter 2, where she decided not to just drown herself and wait a little longer for the mermaid to eat her. Just because someone's suicidal, doesn't mean they're always perfectly okay with it. Whether the issue is pain, lingering regrets, wanting to actually deal with your issues but being unable to shake the suicidal thoughts..

Sometimes, when you're depressed, you'll make excuses like this, to put it off a bit longer. She's clearly conflicted: wanting to die (it looked like because her family drowned too?) and be with them but part of her still wants a reason not to. Of course, sometimes being indecisive about being suicidal also makes you hate yourself more. Whether you think yourself a coward or just hate the indecisiveness in general. It's not a fun place to be.

That said, whether main character is eaten in the end or not, I'm fine either way. What I'm REALLY hoping for is some realistic, sympathetic looks at how people can struggle with, cope, and possibly overcome mental issues. A bad or stereotyped portrayal would probably kill this for me.

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joined Feb 5, 2015

Welp, this chapter should have the Cheating tag, if only to warn off those who can't read that stuff. I usually avoid works with that tag myself, but here, where we're already invested in the characters, it doesn't ruin the story at least. Also, we never actually saw what she said to her boyfriend after "I'm sorry". Maybe she DID break up with him.

Not that I'm trying to make excuses for Youko. I haven't really liked her from the beginning, but it's a mild dislike, that will fade depending on how she grows from this. I can understand struggling with your own feelings. We'll see what happens next chapter.

last edited at Sep 29, 2020 11:32AM

Selene
School Zone discussion 27 Sep 14:52
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I'm still waiting for a good, cannon poly relationship

I don't know if you mean in this series specifically or in general, but there's a really good poly relationship an A Kiss and a White Lily

Ah, I forgot about that one. But it wasn't exactly focused on, and there was a lot of love triangle tension. If I remember right, there were only a couple chapters with those characters, right? Wasn't very much to their arc at all..

I'm thinking more like if the Yuyushiki threesome went canon, or say, Eiko, Kiyose-sensei, and Kamuri from Slow Start.

But thank you for reminding me of that. I might need to reread it soon..

last edited at Sep 27, 2020 2:53PM

Selene
School Zone discussion 27 Sep 13:36
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I'm still waiting for a good, cannon poly relationship, but I'm not sure this is it.. Kaname I think is a lot more observant than the personality she displays, and I think she has an ulterior motive here. Whether it's because she knows how Nakatani feels and doesn't return those feelings, I'm not sure, but that's my theory so far.

Maybe she's playing match-maker for Piyo and Tsubaki, or maybe she wants Tsubaki for herself. Or maybe she's totally straight and just likes to help people make friends and just gets a whole bunch of amusement from teasing her friends. Like Piyo. Yeah, that's what I suspect; she's just a chaotic-good type person.

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joined Feb 5, 2015

I've been trying to figure out why this chapter seemed to move it past subtext and into the realm of a clear Yuri Crush for me, and I think I figured it out. There's always been a lot of subtext, but Shino has said things in the past that would qualify her at the least as hetero-normative (due to culture). And so we've been left to speculate on her true feelings.

She has the fascination with women's bodies (particularly Nozomi's), though that could be your standard manga cliche. She clearly loves Nozomi even if it hasn't explicitly been stated how. Now she has the jealousy/proprietary feelings.

What was throwing me off was that jealousy could simply be a "you took my beloved sister away" type jealousy. If this was earlier in the manga, where Shino was still struggling with her brother's death and was clearly emotionally dependent on Nozomi, at least in part, then that probably would have been the case. But Shino...well, I wouldn't say she's gotten over her brother's death, but she's accepted it and is making an effort to move forward. She's no longer as emotionally dependent on her sister-in-law.

What's more, there's this parallel. She never felt like Nozomi stole her brother away, indicating she understands that people and relationships will change. But she did feel like Nozomi was being taken away when talking to that male teacher. At the time, it could just as easily have given credence to the "she belongs to my brother" jealousy, while Shino was still struggling with her brother's death. But as stated before, Shino is moving past that, and yet she still got jealous again here. This indicates something deeper and/or longer lasting.

It's not certain, but I think with this chapter it's now more likely than not Yuri.

That said, it could still end up as a one-sided Yuri Crush, or even still be used as a "this is how Shino takes a step forward and eventually finds someone else to love" ending. I'm not going all in, because this has been so well done so far that I'm perfectly content to see where it goes. Also, the sheer amount of subtext might make you think it must be yuri, but as we all know there are multiple Manga Which Shall Not Be Named that were merely yuri bait.

last edited at Sep 25, 2020 8:38PM