Reejun posted:

Probably because she doesn't actually want to fuck them. Sure she overidolize and glorify them, but so far it seems like she doesn't actually feel attracted to them. She literally only want to dress them in cute cloths and look at them. Nothing more. Which I'd say for all intense and purposes is perfectly fine. I'd actually be hesitant to even call her lolicon at this point.

Kafuka Fuura would be proud of this optimism.

You could say I try to give people benefit of the doubt x3

Serenata posted:

I think she's a lolicon, a special kind that lacks that lust for flesh but a lolicon anyway.

The very definition of lolicon is someone attracted to young girls though. Do you really dislike her that much you have to make up some kind of special lolicon just for her?

jaggyd posted:

This story is right on the border, between cute and creepy. Seriously, I feel like I might end up on some government watched list, just reading it.

It's not that creepy. Check recent Itou Hachi's art. That's creepy... and not cute at all.

Kinda curious how this isn't creepy, where the lead adult straight up says she doesn't like girls after their first menstruation.

Probably because she doesn't actually want to fuck them. Sure she overidolize and glorify them, but so far it seems like she doesn't actually feel attracted to them. She literally only want to dress them in cute cloths and look at them. Nothing more. Which I'd say for all intense and purposes is perfectly fine. I'd actually be hesitant to even call her lolicon at this point.

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Parnifia the Bastard posted:

Nice, so someone picked it up.

Well, less "someone" than the same scanlation group just returning to it after over a year.

Oh. Still nice.

Nice, so someone picked it up.

A wild LESBIAN appeared!
Enemy LESBIAN used PUSSY TACKLE!
It's super effective!

Aries_Lufir posted:

Ain't this a yuri dedicated website?

It isn't.

@Sarge688
Actually it seems that Fate/Extra only implied it by saying a fictional story like that exists in-universe, but doesn't actually confirms they indeed switched places. Fate/Grand Order decided to ignore it and outright said she was a woman.

morter posted:

Would someone mind spoiling the Norway jokes. This is the first time I'm encountering this

Wasn't it just a silly play on "no way"?

schuyguy posted:

I found the ending of Renai Manga very emotionally impactful.

Don't get me wrong. Ending was satisfying. What bothered me most was that the entire central drama was revolving around misunderstandings and assumptions mangaka made which we as readers knew were wrong and would eventually get solved, but solving them took entire rest of the manga. There was promise of actually seeing real time changes in their relationship and natural development of how they become closer, which was suddenly traded for drama of them being separated and them becoming closer, alongside with implication that things will change in the future, was crammed into last few pages of the manga. That felt very disappointing to me, as I'm really starving for actual couple life or at least something that is similar to it, which their Editor x Mangaka relationship seemed to be close enough to.

schuyguy posted:

The fact they were more connected than they thought gets only brought up literally at the last page and that is the only reason we kinda sorta assumed they will get together. Manga doesn't even confirm it.

Have you read the whole thing? It's obvious that they're together in the extra chapters. I'd definitely agree that Renai Manga isn't perfect. I assume people keep bringing it up because it's the most "normal" Kodama Naoko yuri story. I think Cocytus, A World Without Freedom, and Moratorium have their own charms, and might be better than Renai Manga. And NTR is fucking hilarious so it's alright.

I did, but I read it when extras wasn't out yet. Yea, I guess most normal fit, cos the drama just boils down to misunderstandings. Still while I did like how it started and I liked the premise, story very quickly delved into heavy drama and angst and we spend like 4 chapters of 6 chapters basically waiting for things to get solved and when they do, it ends. So it is very weird to me how people keep on saying how this manga is only happy etc. Kodama story when in fact, only happy thing happening is them getting together at the end.

By that logic people should love A World Without Freedom for example, because entire manga focus on drama and angst but at the end they end up together and are happy so it is fine, right?

BTW. I enjoyed Cocytus very much and didn't have the issues people have with it.

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Btw. am I actually the only one who was severely disappointed by Renai Manga? People make it as if it was some happy go lucky fluff manga because they ended up together. Half of it is them misunderstanding each other and angsting over it instead of communicating and trying to solve their problems. And when it was finally over manga just ended vaguely suggesting they will be together. I really do not understand why people keep praising it so much. It had tone of wasted potential. I thought the fact editor was the girl that mangaka helped to change will be brought much faster and used to give more confidence to her, but instead she just pushes her away thinking her influence on her life is bad and we are getting to square one till someone else helps her realize she made wrong decision at the very end (I might be a bit wrong about that bit). The fact they were more connected than they thought gets only brought up literally at the last page and that is the only reason we kinda sorta assumed they will get together. Manga doesn't even confirm it.

@Sup
Nah it is actually because FGO decided guys are boring and genderbendered like 50% of famous mythical and historical characters. Original Fate only did it with Arthur and other games were trying to keep it low, but FGO just didn't give a fuck, cos waifus to spend money on. Also other games tried to keep pretext it could make sense like Arthur was girl crossdressing, Nero didn't give a fuck to her gender and dressed whatever and Drake was too mainly to be called a girl by her crew. FGO just didn't bother to do that and genderbendered everyone.

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Look at it this way. She can only be a Avenger or Lancer. Unlike Seiba that has:

Saber
Saber Lily
Saber Alter
Lancer
Lancer Alter
Archer
Rider
Assassin
Berserker
Santa

You know, now that I wrote it down it really got ridiculous with her...

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Reejun posted:

She's talking about her being able to predict her parent's reaction. "I can see it now." As in "it" being what she described in the speech bubble.

Silly me I didn't look at page for some reason and based on other sentence from the same page I assumed she said it after Hina suggested marring. In that case I agree "I can see it." or something like that would be more accurate.

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schuyguy posted:

Oh, I thought she was saying "it's already obvious how this will turn out". I assumed that the she would've used 目に見える for something that will be obvious.

To be honest, you can probably interpret it the way you did as well. The phrase is very vague and the fact they assumed she means parents could be actually seen as taking some liberties already. I'm pretty sure I would rather go into direction of her saying "you can tell we are faking it from miles away" than specifically saying her parents would be the one to spot it. Also after I looked at second sentence you brought up, it kinda looks like a rewrite to me. It kinda means the same thing, but in now way you could get that from that sentence.

And no, I'm not a member of the group. Personally, if I make errors I'd be happier that someone point them out to me, so if I notice errors I do the same.

Np. I thought so, but I just wanted to make sure in case you are making some official comment about changes that will be implemented.

EDIT/ In fact when I thought about it more "Why can't they be happy with me just marrying someone who doesn't meet their expectations!" really doesn't fit with story and conversation, because "It makes me want to just find someone they can't brag about, and only let them know after I'm married!" is exactly what they did and explains why Hana suggested herself as she is someone Machi parents definitely won't be able to brag about.

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Random_Bird posted:

These parents are horrible.

To be fair, their daughter came out to them in the worst way imaginable. Showing up at your conservative parents' door and just letting your wife bluntly drop the bombshells that not only are you gay but you also eloped is going to result in an emotional response. Really, I think the parents handled it remarkably well until Hana was a little too smug about it.

And that is the reason to get angry? They got angry because they kept insisting she has to marry someone they approve of and they can be proud of and dissed every single person she choose herself and brought to them. Honestly, who she marries should be no their business and there shouldn't be something like "coming out in the worse way imaginable". The only reason we need to "come out in a good way" in the first place is because homophobic people exist and we need to go on a eggshells around them to make them accept us and not simply disown us or something. So sorry, we should be able to just say, "I'm gay and I'm marring this girl" and they shouldn't have any saying in the matter. In fact they should be happy not angry by default unless "I'll come out in the right way".

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Melon posted:

What I don't really get though is that traditional roleplay housewife and money earner. I think it's sooooo outdated, but not in Japan, huh? Or maybe it's a joke.

Lol. It is a outdated joke. Machi even commented on it.

schuyguy posted:

目に見えてる
They'll see right through me
change to
I can already see it

Idk if you are part of the group, but in first "目に見える" is a expression that means "clear; distinct; apparent​", so "目に見えてる" would be something like "It'll be obvious" and I believe that is why they translated it as "They'll see right through me" since they assumed she is referring to her parents.

Salinthrous posted:

The couple who were in the real-life manga about being married and having a child eventually divorced. So, at some point, Japanese yuri will also have divorce themes.

Which manga are you referring to?

Pretty sure this one

That looks promising.

About legal stuff. As far as I'm aware same-sex marriage is only legal in some districts in Japan and it isn't the same as normal marriage so it isn't official in entire Japan, which I think is what Hana is referring to here. Anyone here able to confirm this for me?

Blastaar posted:

Now Uta is about to reveal the central point of the entire story, and . . . ?

She won't because the drama must go on.

It all honestly rely on staff going through tags and changing them. I already suggested it to Dpf and his respond was "maybe", so it is all matter of actually bothering to do it.

That is why we really should use actual names. Using class names is left over from original game when there were only 7 servants and they did it to hid their true identities, now that we got dozen animes and games using class names become impractical. It is especially only make things confusing for people who don't know the franchise so they don't know actual names, which make it harder to look for them online. Even sites like booru ditched it and started preferring to use actual names once number of servants become overwhelming.

Yuri Queen posted:

Uh, no, not even close. They said nothing of the sort. There was not a single mention of "true" yuri. They dont even use the word "yuri" at all. They dont talk about male audiences or other fans, only that they personally were looking for something more wholesome like Kase-san. I really dont see the issue of having a personal taste, the reason why this site uses so many tags so that fans can find certain pieces that fit their personal tastes.

Surprisingly relevant to the topic

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Reejun posted:

based on his reaction to the phone ringing it wasn't a simple "family trip" like he said it was.

What he said was that his half-estranged father called him out of the blue to demand he come see him. His reactions were consistent with that.

While the father thing might be pretty much true and I dislike how author decided to interrupt Kaoru's confession with cellphone (one of the most annoying tropes), what really felt shady to me was how Reiichi used it to avoid conversation with Kaoru, when it was clear she wanted to talk with him about the trip thing. In previous panels it was clear from his expressions that while it might really be just a "business trip" and even if he was with Risako for other reasons than cheating (something related to work perhaps), it doesn't change the fact he clearly didn't want to have to explain it to Kaoru and when he heard she might not remember it, he was actually relieved a bit and never brought the issue himself again. So w/e he is cheating or not, there is still something shady going on.