Skyrin posted:

That is the worst title I have seen in a while.

Not sure how much credit I can give to it, but there's chance it's actually in reference to our original polish word for vampire, wąpierz.

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Blastaar posted:

I personally tend to read genre fiction to see what the author does with the genre conventions

I don't mind reading stories for that too, but this specific premise I read so many times, I'm currently sick off it and prefer to look for different kinds of stories.

triviabingo posted:

This is some advanced 4-step ladder 5000IQ baiting. I literally got baited by a bait of a bait but in the end the bait becomes a not-bait

Baitception

NxY posted:

It's really not generic.

"generic plot"

While Bloom isn't doing anything ground-breaking, the quality of the writing outclasses anything remotely similar.
YagaKimi isn't special in concept but, it has become special through impeccable execution.

"while it's very well executed, it still only tells a very typical story"

Why I even bother writing anything if nobody actually reads it with comprehension.

You're basically comparing a burger from a fast food restaurant to a burger from a 3 Michelin Star restaurant.

I, at no point, compered it to anything, but I see because of the whole Citrus vs YagaKimi talk, you wanted to use clever food comparison too.

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I wouldn't call Bloom Into You overrated. My issue with it is more that while it's very well executed, it still only tells a very typical story I read many times before, so despite it nuance, I lost my interest in reading it. I really wish it would go different route and explore some new grounds, while still being as well written as it's now. And yes, I'm fully aware it all boils down to me setting some expectations and story not meeting them. I'm sure I'll enjoy it when I feel like reading that kind of generic plot again.

TB posted:

4th episode of Shigofumi, which revolves around lesbian couple

Oh, that's a throwback. I remember being surprised by the yuri episode back when it aired. It's funny though, in my memories the girls were confirmed to be a couple. Weird how the brain plays tricks on you. Just goes to show how close to explicit their relationship was. In any case, Shigofumi was a pretty good show.

Yea. I didn't watch it when it aired, but I watched it few years after. It was really good series, so I'm reminded off it every now and then. And yea, they never stated it, but they're presented as blatant couple, so I don't blame you for being sure they did. They're pretty much framed the same way any het couple would be, so it really leaves no doubt they're dating. I'm convinced that even people who hate subtext and need confirmation, wouldn't question it. I mean, after seeing their first scene alone, I'm always blown away how they went all out to present it as romantic as possible.

BugDevil posted:

Random question: can any of you even imagine Kasumi taking care of a baby?

Nope. We all know who would be responsible for the kids.

Kid would be taking care of Kasumi, because mama is too lazy.

So did it finally go somewhere or it's still subtext?

All that recent "subtext" talk reminded me of 4th episode of Shigofumi, which revolves around lesbian couple. The series has a plot, but early episodes are pretty much standalone so you can watch them without understanding everything. And sure, they're not confirmed to be a couple, but I dare you to try seeing them as just friends after watching it.

Also it's a perfect example of what I mean by subtext so blatant, you don't need a in-show confirmation to get it.

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bubbleteabird posted:

but the maid thinking the confession was for her was funny XD

That is probably the only original thing. At least I never saw this before.

@FluffyCow

I know there are many versions of Arthurian legends, but in Fate version while Mordred indeed was raised as a tool to overthrown Arthur and become the next king, Mordred herself did not care about any of that. She worshiped Arthur as perfect king and was "his" biggest fan. When Morgan told her she is actually Arthur's "son", but "he" would never accept her, Mordred didn't care. She was overjoyed she was related to person she admired. She rushed to king, wanting "him" to recognize her as "his" "son", but Arthur rejected her, not wanting to acknowledge they're of the same blood. That pissed Mordred off and all the love she carried for "him" turned into hatred instead. Believing "he" will never accept her because of her connection to Morgan, she decided to raise a rebellion against "him" to overthrown "him". It's true Arthur meant that Mordred wasn't ready to be king yet, but it was "his" refusal to acknowledge their bond that fucked up everything.

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@Hollows

That's really not accurate summary at all... Like, not at all.

In short, it's all about execution. You can be telling the most basic story idea every, but as long as it's well done, people will still read and love it. Of course trying to play with and subvert tropes is a good way to try making your story feel fresh and in fact is kinda expected nowadays, but as long as your story telling ability is good, you can roll with anything. And that's exactly the issue with this manga. It uses basic cliches, but executes them very poorly and without any nuance or twist, making it feel just plain generic, predictable and even painful.

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I wanted to TL it, but since it's about Anne trying to rape Grea, I said no.

Gorion posted:

Carole & Tuesday - tagged as romance, there are 2 female leads... Hopefully it takes the yuri route, we shall see. Fingers crossed.

Romance always mean het romance, because that's the default. If it was yuri, it would be tagged as shoujo ai/yuri. So I wouldn't expect anything from it. In fact since it's tagged as romance, there will be het in it.

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Polioro posted:

Polioro posted:

Guys guys GUYS, I mean, did you know that Dowman Sayman himself knows about this translation? I can't xDDDDD check his twitter

We do.

It's glorious xDDD I was just stalking him and couldn't get myself together after reading it xDDDD

Yea. Other authors could take example from him how to react to scanlations.

You can pretty easily talk about other people without implying gender as well about yourself, but when you do want to imply it, you do have ways to do it as well. And yes, Mordred get pissed when you specifically refer to her as a woman.

Polioro posted:

Guys guys GUYS, I mean, did you know that Dowman Sayman himself knows about this translation? I can't xDDDDD check his twitter

We do.

triviabingo posted:

Whoa plot twist, childhood friend is just a skinship lover and is actually not a lesbian...

...not yet at least

Yea. This second chapter actually ruined it for me, because it's shown the "lesbian" friend might actually not be a lesbian.

BugDevil posted:

It's also not our problem that the characters are dislikable. Or that they don't end up together. Or that a story is badly written or executed. Do you even need to read a story if you can't care about its aspects anymore?

You know that is a terrible argument.

Good thing all of those are facts and not opinions.

They end up together in most of her works. I enjoyed quite a bit of her works. I appreciated that she is capable of drawing something different than everyone else, giving us some variety. You don't need to like it, but there are plenty people who do. Also she is more than capable of drawing cute, fluffy stories. She just usually prefer writing about trash people, since it's her fetish.

johnb posted:

I don't think the boy talk is a big regression in Yae and Chitose's relationship. Yae is just having a bit of a freakout about Chitose going to an all boy school, for a competition. Yae is worried Chitose will get around boys, and suddenly realise, that she is really straight, and that she was just playing a love game with Yae all along.

That's the entire issue.

Not to mention they got banned already.

BugDevil posted:

There's a bunch of yuri isekai. But I can't say I can think of many I'd really recommend. I Favor the Villainess isn't too bad though; it's not harem and it takes homosexuality mostly seriously. It's even translated, although it's just an edited machine translation (and that shows, but, well, it's readable).

I wonder if getting sucked into an Otome game counts as Isekai... The definition is rather broad though.

People consider stories like SAO as isekai so I'd say it counts just fine. Also there is manga adaptation of Villainess.

BugDevil posted:

Seriously most people would stop being in denial at the "love each other romantically and go on dates" stage.... How do you do it Yukiko-sensei?

Simple. They're playing the longest game of chicken in history. Don't worry. They'll stop once they feel like it got too gay. After being married for like 20 years and popping few kids, probably.

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Blastaar posted:

(Which happens to echo the infamous, “Kissing doesn’t count if we’re both girls,” a trope justifiably greeted with scorn and horror in this community.)

Wasn't it more "When it's between 2 girls, it doesn't count" for basically everything in general? From kissing, to sex, to holding hands.