Because Kyou was the most important person in her life before she met Aki. The things she said and did contradict each other as proof of this. Shiho uses defense mechanisms so she doesn't have to deal with the pain: For example, in Chapter 34 she said that Kyou was just an "acquaintance" to her and that she was even relieved that she died, but if that were true then she wouldn't have gone regularly as we saw to her grave to talk to her and tell her about her life, nor would she (as I wrote before) formed a band with Momoka and Hajime for Kyou's sake when she wanted to quit music.

On the contrary her actions and dialogues are pretty in line with each other, she says she hates kyo, then she cuts ties with her without hesitation and in a sense kyo´s death actually relieved her from her past, she now doesn´t have to apologize nor confront her eternal rival, she can just pretend that they had great relationship and sweep under the rug all the bad parts (that mind you were all shiho fault).

Also is pretty clear that shiho can´t quit music even if she wanted to, her whole persona revolves around being good at it, heck is implied that she tried several times before and no matter how much pain music gave her she kept playing, after the incident with aki momoka and hajime just gave her an excuse to keep feeding her sick relationship with music, i truly believe that kyo had little to nothing to do with it cuz even tho she rejected momoka and hajime several times she actually kept playing, she just didn´t want to honor kyo s last wish and when she was at her lowest they gave her and excuse to keep playing

Shiho loves to lie to herself, repeating in her mind that she is a heartless and selfish person. Acting way tougher than she truly is. But I am convinced that those are simply defense mechanisms to protect herself, as she can't deal with defeat in a mature way.

I mean she´s not lying to herself, she really is a shitty person. But you´re right about something, she is soft tho, she truly doesn´t have the grit to accept defeat and retaliates against the people she deems responsible for her misery. That doesn´t means shes putting a facade or that she´s secretly a good person that just means she´s a shitty person acting shitty

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She is doing her best (along with Momoka and Hajime) to keep the memory of her former friend/rival, Kyou, alive. Shiho formed her current band even though she wanted to quit music altogether at that moment.

I don't get why momoka and Hajime are so fixated on shiho, is not like she was an integral part of kyo s life, they were fiends for a brief period of time and then she just cuted ties with her altogether cuz she couldn't take the L gracefully. Is just baffling seeing her lover and sister going to this random person that haven't talked to kyo in years and who she was presumably in bad terms and practically beg her to play music. The fact that till the day of her death kyo never actually got mad and always rooted for shiho while on the other hand shiho never acknowledged that she was wrong and deeply hurt kyo is infuriating

The reason why she chose to play the guitar was to stay connected to her, even though at the time she understood it as a selfish act (defense mechanism).

She herself said that she choose to play the guitar cuz kyo wasn't allowed to and that gave her a sick sense of victory. How on earth could you read it as she wanting to stay connected to her, kyo was still alive when she started playing guitar, she could just talk to her intead of being the worst friend ever.

Calling it now—10 bucks says that whoever finds Shiho in her Den of Mope says a version of, “I knew I’d find you here.”

i´ll do you one better, after reading this chapter now i´m 100 % sure that aki´s song is about love and that she´s gonna ask shiho for forgiveness for not being psychic and having the audacity of falling for someone other than her, then everyone will just pretend that shiho wasn´t a massive asshole to everyone and the manga will end with the two couples

Now there’s a ramblin’, gamblin’ [gender nonspecific person] if ever I saw one.

I’ll bid: Onsen double-date in the special bonus chapter for the collection.

i´d like to say that i am but tbh the manga has prove me right time after time after time, at this point im just throwing the most cliche thing i can possibly imagine and hope to be wrong

Calling it now—10 bucks says that whoever finds Shiho in her Den of Mope says a version of, “I knew I’d find you here.”

i´ll do you one better, after reading this chapter now i´m 100 % sure that aki´s song is about love and that she´s gonna ask shiho for forgiveness for not being psychic and having the audacity of falling for someone other than her, then everyone will just pretend that shiho wasn´t a massive asshole to everyone and the manga will end with the two couples

Bro if nanao x asumí actually becomes a thing this is gonna be on par with "my younger senpai" and ookami shounen as one of the most epic, crowd pleaser mangas ever.

Funny how the "salty"/ "toxic" people that hate shiho are just trying to discuss the structure of the story, nuance of the characters, craftsmanship of the author, etc. While the ones defending it are the ones that started with the snarky comments and straight up strawman
I guess looking critically at a Manga and enjoy talking about it is "toxic" behavior and people should just enjoy it as it is or zip it

I thought the whole "changing the rules of the school" plot was already over, I mean I hasn't been mention since the earlier chapters and I assumed that Mei already accomplished her goal (since yuzu and Matsuri haven't used the school uniform a single time and nobody seems to have a problem) and even at that point it was so poorly defined and happened so quick that it felt more like a plot device to kickstart the Sayaka arc than an ongoing conflict. Heck the next set of chapters (which I barely remember) had little to nothing to do with the school at all, then we have the kana arc that again doesn't mention the school rules a single time
And as blaastar says the fact mei s role in the hierarchy of the board is so poorly defined makes it even more confusing. If Mei doesn't have the power to change the rules by herself, her early attitude makes no sense, she's pretty much asking for a favor yet she acts as if she had all the power and if she didn't change anything how did yuzu and Matsuri have been getting away with breaking the dress code. But if she's indeed in charge of everything why exactly is she lobbying in other schools.
It's kinda weird that sabu decided to bring back this plot, like I said I thought it was already over and is probably one of the more undercooked ones (and tbf is kinda boring) but at this point I don't even know if is possible to get this story back on track so I guess it is what it is

Brotha got the kike, kike aliodas

I mean the lycoris spin is a quite common pose, it could be a reference but it could also just be Ryo carrying nijika

Aki would not apologize for that. She'd apologize for not being attentive enough to notice Shiho's suffering. I guess you'll bristle at the word suffering? But that's how it could be perceived.

Quite the opposite I love stories about people that face the suffering in their lives and as a result become wiser and stronger like zuko from avatar, I'm not a big fan of characters that justify their actions and bad decisions in life and get rewarded after a slap on the wrist (sometimes not even that) just because some perceived offense

I said what she would do in my response. She'll likely do it in the manga (apologize for not noticing etc.) but we'll see. Nurture does not imply dating. Don't understand that extreme.

Shiho made it pretty clear that if aki didn't loved her back she didn't want anything to do with her, I'm not exaggerating when I say that the only option aki had to stop shiho from leaving the band was to date her out of obligation, that's not me making a strawman that literally came from shiho s mouth

The proper equivalent for this in Yagate Kimi ni Naru would be believing that it was indeed Yuu's fault for falling in love and confessing, as she too mistakenly found herself thinking after Touko apologized. And we all know this was neither actually so, not the author showing it to be.

No it isn't we were talking about the "I failed to notice your feelings" trope not the "I'm sorry for falling in love with you" one, even if often they'll be together in a story they are quite different and are not interchangeable. Even if we, for the sake of argument, equate yuu to aki and shiho to touko, yagakimi handle it miles better, touko realized her mistake and redeemed herself, after 20+ chapter of drama it hasn't even crossed shiho s mind that she's been hurting people with her actions and keeps thinking only of herself.
And looking at how kyo even after her desth never got a proper apology I highly doubt that neither aki nor the SS girl will receive one

What train of thought would lead her to assume it was her fault and that she had a way of preventing this whole mess

The thought that she had a (culturally debatable) responsibiiity to nurture that relationship as the leader of the band (community) and failed to truly notice her fellow community member's feelings.

Again what exactly was she supposed to do, was she supposed to sacrifice her own love just to prevent shiho from being hurt? Is that what Takeshima eku is implying?

Which is why I'm glad you have properly explained why just because Aki feels guilty about this, it doesn't mean the author is actually holding her responsible.

Characters are not independent beings with free will (even if good writing gives that illusion), they're pretty much bounded to the author will. Aki didn't reach the conclusion that it was her fault cuz it made sense, she did it because the author wanted to.
Let's compare this mess with a Manga that successfully pulled off this cliche
In bloom into you touko makes yuu promise her that she won't fall in love with her and is implied that if she were to do so their relationship would change drastically. When yuu falls in love with touko she desperately tries to hide it out of fear of how she'll react. When yuu finally confesses she's shivers in fear of what's going to happen, when touko notices this she comes to the realization that she put unreasonable expectations on yuu and by not noticing her feelings and act accordingly she deeply hurt her and is her fault that she's feeling that way right now

Let's say for the sake of argument that aki noticed shiho s feelings. What exactly was she supposed to do? was she's supposed to repress her feelings for yori to not hurt shiho? Was she supposed to date her even tho she doesn't like her that way? What train of thought would lead her to assume it was her fault and that she had a way of preventing this whole mess

By having aki blaming herself out loud the author is reinforcing the idea that she's been wronged by aki, the only reason the readers don't reach the same conclusion is cuz it doesn't make sense and we can see through Takeshima eku intentions,

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Gotta love how dismissive some people were when I speculate that aki was gonna blame herself and probably gonna be the one to apologize
Even if it's clear to everyone that all of shiho s struggles are self inflicted, I legit think Takeshima eku is trying to convince people that they aren't and that she isn't at fault

Just look at kyo, people like to talk about how expectations and pressure broke shiho, when In reality kyo was the one being forced to play and win by her parents, while being hated by shiho for being better than her. And despite the fact that Shiho ruined music for both of them the manga frames her as the victim and glosses over the fact that kyo lost a friend due to circumstances completely out of her control and for a long time believed it was her fault

Same with the scene with aki and yori, there could have been a scene showing aki concerned for shiho, showing that she's also important to aki and that giving up that easily was a mistake, but instead there's a heavy focus on how sad she was for seeing aki with another girl, as if aki betrayed her by falling in love with yori

I love Bokita after all es el más grande but I feel like nijika understands bocchi in a way no other memeber of kessoku band does, not only that but the way she helped bocchi to get out of her shell and find a goal Is just mmmm chef kiss

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Sheesh, now that's a ship I haven't seen before and a pretty hot pic to spice it even more

The cliffhanger got me a bit confused, is there a problem with Miyako hanging out with the girls from elm. Is there a problem with myako being in touch with her former group

what an absolute legend, kafka just went for it

btw does anybody know why characters go "thunder cross split attack" whenever they want to say no or show discomfort with something

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joder que rico

@Yachie7 I think you meant zipperman

Granted these are still minors and teenagers do dumb things when emotions run high, I get it and I do cut some slack for Shiho over it, and she has shown to have redeeming values and moments: But she has a LOT of growing up to do before I ever want to see her in a actual relationship

i don´t think that´s gonna happen sadly, the story so far has framed shiho s struggles as stuff that´s completly out her control, as if the people around her were the ones at fault. It wouldn´t surprise me if aki actually apologizes to her for "breaking her heart"(even tho she didn´t actually confess) and ends up being the one confessing. And even tho aki´s been through a lot i think the character that definitely got the short end of the stick was kyo, who for a long time believed it was her fault that shiho stopped talking to her and got fridged for the sake of a more sympathetic back story for shiho

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i don´t think kumiko is supposed to be blunt nor insensitive, it´s implied that she´s actually really perceptive and can see and understand how people feel but decides to stay at arms length to avoid getting involved

if a had a nickel for every Slice of life that suddenly introduces supernatural/world ending elements on the last chapters to solve them immediately i´d have 2 nickels (chobbits and this one) which is not a lot but is weird that happened 2 times already