Wait, how could you all so sure the one in "I meet my sister on a dating site" is Daidou?

Because Tsubomi is also a character in "I Met My Sister on a Dating Site", and there's a flashback of them breaking up in the exact same way they broke up here.

Ehh. I think they didn't really do much with the "yuri lover" personality trait. The whole "but that does mean they're dating" bit was a quality punchline, but I had to read it twice to understand who was saying what because I'd already forgotten her entire 2d yuri gimmick. For the most part, it just played out like a clingy gay girl pestering her roommate. There's a BL manga (Sasaki to Miyano) that does this dynamic better but with boys, where a boy who loves yaoi and fantasy ships his friends gets super flustered when a hot guy starts coming on to him for real. I was hoping for something like that, but it didn't quite get there.

I've been wondering for a while how the Kiyose - Eiko - Kamuri triangle was going to shake out, when Kiyose and Kamuri haven't really interacted with each other so far. Having them team up to go on snack dates and tease Eiko sure adds a whole new dimension to the relationship, huh? I think I'm starting to understand the true potential of the OT3.

Come to think of it... I don't know if it's just because it's the highest-impact running plotline the series has going, but the Kiyose x Eiko stuff is really starting to overshadow everything else for me. I usually find yuribait slice-of-life stories pretty tepid, but Eiko's over here starring in multiple spicy romantic comedies at once, and all the awkward ronin stuff ends up feeling like an amusing side show in comparison. Like, I'm into it, I wouldn't be nearly as eager to keep up with the releases if it wasn't for her, but I can't help but feel like the main draw of the series has strayed somewhat.

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Headteacher: "...And that's why it's important to maintain a professional image in front of the students, and refrain from becoming too personally involved with any single one of them. Your behaviour lately has really failed to- hey! Are you listening to me?"
Enami: "Sorry, is this going to go on for much longer? I told a student to hold on to some candy for me, and I don't want to keep her waiting."
Headteacher: "What kind of excuse is that? A student isn't going to wait just so they can give you some candy."
Enami: "Oh no, she will. I put it in her mouth, so she's definitely going to wait for me to come take it back."
Headteacher: "Eh? Huh?"
Enami: "Personally."
Headteacher: "Our responsibility as teachers is-"
Enami: "With my tongue."
Headteacher: "If this is some kind of sick joke, then I am really not- wait, are you talking about Tokura Eiko?"
Enami: "Yup."
Headteacher: "...You can go."

Also that comment about training your voice to be high pitched made me curious. Can girls also do that to make their voice sound like male? Is there an age limit on when you can start? This manga is pushing me further and further to actually try cross dressing and idk what to feel ; ×;)

I've only had training for the other way around, so I don't know too much about it, but it's certainly possible. Like a lot of other things, it becomes harder to make big changes to your voice after you're about twenty-five or so, but it's still doable after that point, it'll just be a bit more difficult. The three big things to think about are your pitch, your resonance, and your tone. Changing your pitch is pretty similar to expanding your range as a singer: sing scales, going up and down (spending most of your time at the desired end of your range, obviously) and over time you can gradually become more comfortable producing lower or higher notes.

Resonance is about changing where your voice echoes in your body - to sound more masculine, you want to project your voice downwards, towards your throat and diaphragm, and to sound more feminine, you want to project your voice forwards and upwards, into your mouth and nose. It's hard to explain, and harder to consistently get right, but I think it makes the biggest difference in how people hear you, even more than your pitch.

By tone, I mean your manner of speech: men tend not to change their pitch too much when they talk, and accentuate words by changing how forcefully they say them, whereas women tend to modulate their pitch more widely and frequently. At least, that's what I was told - I think it's a bit iffy, and kinda plays to stereotypes, but if you're trying to sound like a man or a woman without drawing much attention to your voice, it's probably easier to sound like a stereotypical man or a stereotypical woman, than a man or a woman with a quirky voice. I guess.

Once you've put all that together, it's a matter of training your vocal muscles until they're flexible enough to make the sounds you want, and practicing talking with it until it's become second nature. You want to be careful not to overwork your voice too much, since you can easily hurt your throat if you try and force yourself to hit notes that are right at the edge of your range or beyond it, but as long as you take it easy, keep at it, and pay attention to how you sound, it's not particularly dangerous. The results vary from person to person, of course, depending on the kind of voice you're starting with, and I've simplified things a whole lot, but that's roughly what's involved.

I mean... polyamory is one thing, but it's pretty shitty behaviour to unilaterally turn your ambiguous sex friends/vaguely romantic couple relationship into a threesome when one partner clearly isn't into it but doesn't want to just give up and walk away, regardless of your preferred upper limit on partners. I mean, it's gotta feel pretty bad for Miko, to have spent so long getting Tae to open up and trying to go at her pace, to suddenly see her chasing this other woman so aggressively and not really caring that Miko doesn't want to share.

I'm not saying it's bad storytelling or can't be fun or whatever else people are liable to get defensive about - Kurogane Ken has always been into questionable relationships and hazy consent, so I was kinda expecting something like this to happen anyway - but just calling it polyamory doesn't actually make it any less morally ambiguous.

I think I didn't really like the scene between Io and Katra, not because I think Io should be exclusive to Kidaha necessarily, or even that they were too casual about having sex, but just because I think Io's too good for Katra. Katra's weird little harem is fine, they're all basically dumb kids who don't really think things through (plus Kidaha, who's a dumb adult who doesn't really think things through) but I thought Io would have better options at least.

My complaint is that the story keeps raising issues concerning all of the characters (list available on request) that don’t get developed in any focused way, which makes it hard to care very much about them.

Oh, absolutely. I fully agree. It's all unfocused and meandering and unsatisfying and incredibly frustrating. These are all exceptionally good reasons to dislike this manga. I just thought it was kinda funny that so many people (maybe not you, but definitely including me) all assume that this is fundamentally a story about her love eventually being requited, and therefore events should be moving in that direction, even though the title asserts otherwise. Like, of course you would! What else would the story be about? I think it's funny, but I don't think it's wrong, either.

I have to admit, it's still working for me, though. Yeah, the plot is weirdly unfocused, and nobody ever manages to successfully talk to anyone else, and it acts needlessly cryptic about basic story beats and that just serves to make everything feel annoyingly vague, but like... That's what unrequited love feels like, isn't it? It's awful, and part of you wants to just skip to the end so you can see what happens even if you hate it, and part of you suspects that the best, healthiest, most sensible choice is just to drop it and walk away, even if that means never getting a real sense of closure, but part of you hopes that if you just stick it out for long enough, you might just get what you wanted. Even if another part of you isn't even sure what you want anymore.

And I think that's the point? I genuinely think that it's deliberately trying to make readers feel miserable and confused, as a way of further exploring the theme of unrequited love, and more deeply understanding the irrational actions of its characters. I would never say that it's an enjoyable story, and I'm not even sure that it can be a good story, but I personal find it fairly effective, and in those terms I like it. I'm sure you can definitely construct a much stronger argument for why none of this actually makes sense and that the manga does a ton of things really badly that makes it much less effective at what I'm saying it's doing, but it's still working for me, so I'm okay with it.

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Lmao with people getting frustrated that the romance in a story titled "My Unrequited Love" isn't advancing quickly enough. I honestly do get it, this manga is deliberately slow and agonising, and if you're not into that, then I can't blame you for having a bad time. But for all the many valid complaints you could have about this story, you can't fault it for false advertising.

Y'know, given the tone and content of the other chapters, I maybe should've expected it, but ending your sentimental romance/coming-of-age story by literally saying "statutory rape can be good, actually" is pretty gutsy. Like, lmao, it's not even trying to hide how messed up it was that Natsume took advantage of a naive teenager just because she was bored and horny, it just pretends like it's all okay as long as Maki can look back on it later and tell herself that it's a good memory, even though it's screwed up her ability to connect with people romantically. I dunno, it's not like I haven't read manga with big, morally dubious age gaps before, but there's something that feels particularly shameless about this one. Maybe it's the weirdly sentimental atmosphere? I'm not sure.

I don't think you read my post or the one it was quoting if that's what you got out of it. Certainly if "I've never really heard of a man staying in drag in their public life just because its a fun hobby they enjoy." and "as it would occur in real life, which would be with a trans character." aren't openly an attempt to erase the legitimacy of crossdressing then jim crow laws must have been about diner logistics.

I'm sorry I wasn't able to pick out the exact core of your argument from your unbroken block of run-on sentences, but I don't know, dude. Maybe I'm being a bit naive today, but when someone says "I've never really heard of [obscure but real phenomenon], I don't think it happens" and you know for a fact that [obscure but real phenomenon] happens, my first thought is to tell them that yes, actually, it does happen, not to accuse them of being awful bigots and start drawing comparisons to Jim Crow. Like, sure, if they reject your explanation out of hand, or display a continued pattern of willful ignorance, then totally get mad about it, but all this? Really?

And like, you talk a lot about people seeing things in black and white, and drawing up arbitrary cultural battle lines, and that all sounds very nice. Meanwhile, you've completely muddled up the person who hadn't heard about full-time crossdressers with the person who made the reference to free speech, as if they're completely interchangeable because they were nominally on the same side. And you've decided that I'm one of those people who doesn't understand the meaning of genuine representation and just treats it as a game for social points because I've somehow accused you of not wanting trans stories to exist? Because apparently that happened? I can't find you particularly persuasive when it comes to identifying black-and-white thinking, is all I'm saying.

I can see you're clearly very passionate about defending the ability of people who like to crossdress all day every day to see themselves represented in manga, and I get that it really fucking sucks for cis crossdressers to be told that they're actually trans even if they don't know it themselves, but is all this really necessary? If you genuinely think it is, then fuck it, I'll leave you to it, I'm done with this argument either way, but maybe just take a breath for a second?

Yes, marginalizing an entire group of people, like say crossdressers, and saying that stories about them should not exist

...There is so much manga about crossdressing gay dudes. So much. Not all of it is good, or even respectful, but there's unquestionably an abundance of it. I can think of maybe a handful of manga that even have trans characters in them, let alone being a major part of the story. I know you clearly spent a long time on your post, but it really comes off as so much empty bluster when you're acting like people wishing for something other than the thousandth "I swear I'm not gay but he looks really good in a skirt" story is secretly an attempt trying to erase the concept of crossdressing.

Huh, people haven't encountered "stan" before? I guess that makes sense, you don't really see it used outside of pop music fans. I only know about it because a lot of the people I follow on twitter are really into Beyonce, and that's the kind of person who talks about stanning musicians and pop idols. It's a pretty apt comparison.

sigh another "I'm just a cross-dressing guy, totally not trans" story. I've never really heard of a man staying in drag in their public life just because its a fun hobby they enjoy. It's just not something that really happens. Sure there are people who like to do the whole drag queen and drag king thing as a hobby, but the only time someone's gonna go through the effort to present like that throughout their daily life is if they're trans. I don't get why writers (of already gay material) need to bend backwards to portray this trope instead of just writing the story as it would occur in real life, which would be with a trans character.

Yeah, like... I'm still into yaoi with crossdressing, because characters that fuck with gender like that are great, but this whole trope of "I dress like a girl at all times, I take pride in how good I look as a girl, and I get really fulfilled and happy when people see me as a girl, but I'm still totes a guy in the end" really just feels like trans het romance for cowards, sometimes. Like, I'm sure you can find real life guys who would be like that, it just feels a bit... stale, I guess? It's kind of frustrating that these stories always seem to come with the subtext of "it's all funny and cute if it's just crossdressing, but if they actually sincerely think of themselves as a girl, then it's not fun anymore".

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idk how big the age gap is and im slightly concerned

There's the age gap, and also the species gap if the size of her neck on the cover is anything to go by. The fact that it's a romance between a starry-eyed waif and a mysterious giraffe witch makes it extra taboo.

Sincerely though, I'm totally into it.

My take: Nagi takes a liking to Tamaki because she's tall and cool and hot, and realises that Tamaki's friend, Yuu, also feels the same way. Nagi becomes friendly rivals with Yuu, and comes to realise that not only is she cute, she's also funny, dedicated, hardworking, and also a little bit lonely. She meets Tamaki alone, and almost immediately becomes disillusioned, because it turns out that her hot tall butch is also a hot tall player, and she's not as into it as she thought she would be.

She's disappointed, but more than that, she's worried about Yuu, who's invested a hell of a lot more into chasing after Tamaki than Nagi ever did. Yuu knows, though, and doesn't care. She'll work harder to keep Tamaki's attention, if she has to. When Yuu finally runs into Tamaki kissing Yuu, she doesn't care about having "lost" Tamaki, at this point: she just needs to know if this is what Yuu wants, because she's come to care about (and maybe even love) Yuu in a personal way, far outweighing her fleeting, superficial crush on Tamaki. Yuu's smile tells her that this is everything she's ever wanted, and Nagi, who only wants Yuu to be happy, can do nothing but beg Tamaki not to fuck it up.

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There are so many things in this chapter I wanted to see animated. Just remove the subtext tag already, everyone is gay.

At this point, everyone being gay is text, but the specific romantic tensions between characters is subtext. Or it would be, except 90% of the romantic subtext involves Eiko, and Eiko X Everyone is already canon, so it's all text! No subtext at all! Just Eiko!

At first I wondered if the whole "cat cafe to appeal to guys, maid cafe to appeal to girls" thing was a mistaken translation or something, but then I thought about it a bit more, and yeah, that checks out. Surefire recipe for success, is what that is.

I guess it says something that she tried all sorts of weird substitutes, and started to become a spacey useless vegetable after a while, but apparently never thought about, like, finding another girl to grope? I guess that might mean something? Sorta?

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To be honest, I found the gag a bit dull, but Harumi's bra on the chapter 1 splash page was rendered in such loving and immaculate detail, that I spent the rest of the chapter thinking about it and mostly skimmed over all the dialogue and groping. Like, wow. It's like if Kaoru Mori drew a manga about lingerie, or something.

...Actually, I would totally read a Kaoru Mori manga about lingerie, come to think of it...

"who the fuck hits someone with a ashtray"

Yeah, it’s supposed to be: “...with an ashtray.”

Gotta switch to “an” if the next word starts with “a”, I think. I believe it can’t be generalized for words starting with any vowel, like, “a one-time offer” but then when referring to another subject like “an officer”, it’s hit or miss. So, I think the hard rule is using “an” if the next word starts with the letter “A”. Any English majors out there to corroborate with this? (Joke: And I don’t mean officers in the British military)

More than a hard and fast grammatical rule, it's probably more practical to think of it in terms of how the words sound. If the following word sounds as if it starts with a vowel when you say it, then use "an". If it doesn't, use "a". Like in your example, "one" starts with a vowel when written, so it looks like it should use "an" on paper, but it's pronounced "won", so it uses "a". On the other hand, words like "honour" and "honest" both use "an", despite starting with consonants, because the H is silent. "Herb" is a funny one, because the British tend to pronounce the H, while Americans usually don't, so both "a herb" and "an herb" can be correct depending on dialect and accent.

There probably is a proper, more concrete rule out there, but as a general rule of thumb, I think you're usually safe to go by the pronounced sound over the written letter.

I'm kinda into the fact that Yuu hasn't made some terrible misunderstanding about how Touko reacted. She really has been rejected, and Touko really does think that she's not special anymore. It's not a situation where the problem is already solved, and the two leads just have to talk to each other to realise it - the problem is the same core conflict that the entire story has revolved around up to this point, and we're just waiting to see if Touko has grown enough as a person and gathered enough personal experiences and perspective that she can allow herself to change.

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Oh my god I came back to look at this a second time and only just noticed the lipstick marks

lmao Marina tweeting about sister yuri. Looking forward to the next splatfest, older sister yuri vs younger sister yuri

I read that line where Fumiko Fumi's like "You're just like characters from one of my manga" and I thought "lmao, I guess, a little bit"

And then I proceeded to read the rest of the afterword, and I couldn't think of anything except "Oh no, these people are just like characters from a Fumiko Fumi manga." The fact that they apparently ended up breaking up anyway, shortly after the book was released, is... Still depressing, even if I could kinda see it coming. Especially when you take into account that all that happened in less than a year.