Wait.. isn't Caicai and lil youzi cousin? I thought i read somewhere that theyre bff and cousin?

You are likely misremembering chapter 2, I think. When Mom was talking about totally normal ways "good friends" are close Youzi was thinking of Caicai. When Mom mentioned the cousin the image shown was a different girl.

So, basically, Caicai and Cousin are different girls.

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The MC's action suck, she is awful. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the story but please do recognize that this sort of behavior is not, in fact, good.

I mean, one of my favourite series is Warikan, exactly because the characters are awful. I love me a good train wreck drama series, but ScummyGap was rather light-hearted comedy so far, and this kinda clashed with that.

It didn't feel much of a clash to me. As the action is, it isn't treated as such, so it is still light hearted. Not that I don't understand the shock. So far Scummy-chan had only scammed her own parents who also suck, albeit in a different way , so it is easier to not care too much (also power dynamics are different). The only other person she interacts regularly is Maron who is also the one person Scummy isn't shit towards, even when given the opportunity (not by much, but still).

Edit: actually, blackmail is a crime IIRC, so there goes that.

While her actions certainly fit the technical definition of blackmail, I would expect that most siblings' threats of "Give me money or I'll tell Mom" go unprosecuted and unpunished.

Indeed, unreported.

They'd in all likelihood only pertain to petty sums and be dropped regardless, not deal with hundreds of dollars like in this case. Dat sleeping course ain't cheap.
It's like the punchy tsundere: it's only cute if no one really gets hurt.

Also: An action doesn't become a crime once it's reported. It either is or it isn't (with "crime" obviously having degrees of severity), regardless of whether it's discovered, reported or prosecuted.

Wow, that was a surprisingly serious response to a mostly jocular post of mine. Now when I consider the number of felonies and misdemeanors that went unpunished among the five kids in our family I feel like looking over my shoulder for Inspector Javert . . .

I not sure I get the tone of your response here. You acknowledged there was mismatch in tone between your previous post and yet you seemingly double down here instead of trying to explain the apparent misunderstanding.

So, to be clear, what is the joke exactly? Is it that equivocating an adult blackmailing a sibling to two kid siblings doing bullshit to each other is so absurd that it is humorous? Or is it because you genuinely think these two things are comparable and that, in itself, is humorous?

Because, lets make a thing clear. I personally don't have a problem with this chapter. It is funny, the MC sucks and that is funny to me. But she does suck. She is awful, blackmailing your sibling for being gay is actually really serious and not at all comparable to more petty "please don't tell mom" bullshit. Two adults being siblings doesn't one permission to being awful to the other, specially over frankly serious stuff. And even if forcefully outing someone wasn't serious in itself, even if it was petty bullshit, it is still awful to blackmail your adult sibling when you are also an adult. That is not petty pocked money kids received from their parents. Like, even as kids that behavior would be censurable, you should try to educate kids better than that, but by the time they are adults they should know better and be responsible for their actions.

Yeah people are definitely mischaracterizing her here. They’re acting like she went “I know , I’ll threaten my sister and get her to give me money!” rather than what actually happened, which was the sister making up both sides of the scenario in her head and then just taking the money her sister offered her.

That is a bizarrely disingenuous reading. If you know the other party made a misunderstanding and you just went with that it is not a misunderstanding anymore. It is willing deception and, in this case, also blackmail.

Boy, I was kinda expecting some people would be too bothered by the MC actions and complain about it here, what I didn't expect was people outright defending the behavior. The MC's action suck, she is awful. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy the story but please do recognize that this sort of behavior is not, in fact, good.

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Anyone know where I can have a look at the raws for the 2nd chapter? Kind of want to see the original handwritings :p

This should work.

Wow, the font the scanlators used did not do this justice. I think the average foreigner has better Japanese handwriting than this. I'm slightly disappointed the typesetter didn't give it their best shot in MS Paint to really capture the authenticity.

On the flip side the final font of the letter is way fancier in the translation. In Japanese it is just a regular neatly done writing (I think it might be the exact same font as my textbook, actually), not something that draws attention for how pretty it is, like in the scanlation.

Thank you for the explanation, Random duo.

Is that a common thing for a vtubers? To be honest I don't feel I don't understand much about vtubers at all. I thought they were just regular streamers that use an animated avatar instead of face cam.

I feel I miss some context here. What on earth is a situation voice drama? And what does she mean by "as punishment".

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It's fairly surprising that a harem series would introduce all- or at least several- of the contenders in the first chapter, instead of giving each one an arc/episode. It's an interesting change of pace, but the introductions feel a bit rushed.

That is kinda normal. The next several chapters will likely be dedicated to properly introducing each of them, but getting them out right on the first chapter is a common tactic for harem shows also, specially if the "main girl" isn't supposed to be obvious.

^^Kate Bishop assumed the name of Hawkeye when Clint Barton was dead in the comics. After Clint came back to life (comics, don't ask) he became Ronin for a while but eventually reclaimed his name again, Kate didn't gave up on hers so there are two Hawkeyes now. I am not sure what is the situation in the present moment but for a while the two shared a "solo" series.

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Chill guys, its a time-travel fantasy. Who didn't think about going back in time and trying again for love? There is nothing creepy here, just pure love. And if you call others pedo/creeps, don't be surprised by some backlash. Cheers!

Calling a character in a story a pedo is not an attack on anyone, so feeling defensive and backlashing against that makes me thing you identify with said character or said character's action which, sorry, is creepy. Yeah, it is a story, it is fine, I don't think no body here was making any moralizing about the contents of the story. All it happen was someone called a fictional character a pedo which, I need to stress, is a normal reading of the events of the story. There are in story attenuating factors, of course, but the character is still an adult woman creeping on a teenage girl. You shouldn't feel defensive if someone points this very obvious fact.

And, I need to stress, the actual defense is, in itself really fucking creepy. Like, "actual excuse pedophiles make" levels of creepy. If someone calls one character a pedo for being interested in a teenage the defense "but she is hot though" is a very creepy defense. I sorry for repeating myself, but I think this is the key element that is being ignored: the backlash for someone calling Nanasawa a pedo wasn't "oh, but it is an unrealistic situation, she is technically younger and still have the memories for that", it was "being attracted to a woman who looks like this is not pedo" and when it is pointed out that the character in question is a "girl", not a "woman", the response is "she went through puberty already". This is literal pedophilia apologia. Don't defend that.

Can we stop misusing the word pedo? Pedo is about being attracted to completely pre-pubescent children. Seto is very much NOT that.

No it isn't. That is one narrow and valid definition of the word, but it is not exclusive nor is the most popular. You can complain people use imprecise terms a lot with muddle discussion, but that is a semantic definition, it is not how most people use these terms. At any rate, being a predator isn't morally particularly better so it just feels like deflection to focus on said narrow definition instead of actually engaging with the argument.

A more precise use of the word is that Nanasawa is an ebophile and a predator, which is very creepy but easily to ignore in such a fantastic story. But, again, pointing out the target of her affection is post pubescent is not actually a strong defensive, it just reflects poorly on you and what you think it is acceptable.

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And everyone be sure to keep that in mind next time you go time traveling and meet up with your teenage crush.

That is not my point at all, I am not condemning the story. I am condemning the creep who upon seeing someone call a woman who is atracted to a teenage girl "a pedo" replied by posting an image of said teenage girl body. As if that was, at all, relevant to the discussion. And then another creep come and talked about puberty, as if, again, that was relevant to whether someone was a pedophile or not.

Again, I am not contemning the story or fictional characters. It is not necessarily bad that a story contain creepy elements, even if said story never treat said elements as creepy. It is also fine if people enjoy the story despite, or because, the creepy elements, it is fiction, it is fine. But if someone simply acknowledged that creepiness and someone else barge in defensively making arguments for why it isn't creepy, then this is just fucking weird.

Ok, this is getting weird. It is one thing to not care a fictional character doing things that would be very creep and wrong if it happened in real life. It is another entirely to argue these things wouldn't be creepy.

To be perfectly clear: it doesn't fucking matter if a teenage girl went through puberty. You shouldn't hit on a 17 years old girl if you are 27 no matter how hot you think she is.

Dr. Pepper??? Why Dr. Pepper? Do they even have Dr. Pepper in Japan? Did the Pepsi Corporation pay the translator to switch whatever japanese drink that was originally to Dr. Pepper in order to make us think it has world wide fame?

I guess you never saw Steins Gate? That is where I learned Dr Pepper is a thing that exists. I was actually surprised it wasn't a Japan only thing.

“Noah San” makes complete sense if you write it as “Noir 酸” meaning something like ‘carbonated black’

Ah, I thought it was "the Sun of Noah" (biblical character), but "black sun" makes way more sense. At any rate it is clear the author is not too great with roman characters.

Only trouble is since you will have very little saved up any time soon, you couldnt bet enough for a huge return. It would need multiple such bets to build significant money.

I you are really daring you can make a huge loan (probably from some very sketchy places to be able to do without documents). But, yeah.

Wow. Anime, and manga REALLY hammer home, the concept, that girls need to be good cooks. In fact It would be hard to find a long running shoujo anime/manga series that doesn't have at least one story arc involving the main characters either practicing, or displaying their culinary skills.

In fairness I know a TON of anime & manga where the male character(s) are/also great cooks. I think Japan in general values food & cooking, which as a foodie who loves cooking I'm here for it.

I also think it's a pretty common idea in many cultures that great food with friends & family is a good time. Which as you can guess I very much agree with, I love Holidays and cooking for others :D

Maybe you're right, but honestly the only examples of male characters that can cook, I can think of, are ones that are either studying to be chefs, or as a gender role swap thing. And I don't know of any male characters that studied cooking solely so he could "cook delicious food for the girl he liked".

I've had a long standing hatred of the girl cooking to please her man trope, ever since my Ranma 1/2 fandom days. Akane was always desperately trying to learn to cook for Ranma, despite the fact Ranma was a good cook already.
When Ranma's mom said she knew Akane was just trying to cook something to make Ranma smile, I angrily thought, why can't Ranma cook something to make Akane smile?!

EDIT: Can anyone name ANY anime/manga series with a chapter where a bunch of guys get together just to cook? For example, to make the girls they like homemade sweets for white day. (Food anime/manga, and yaoi don't count for obvious reasons.)

I think it is as a bit of both. Japanese culture does value cooking, teaches it early to kids and often portray it as a desirable skill to have. However, there is also a very clear gender imbalance in my view. Like, for boys, being able to cook is a positive thing that is praised. For girls, it is too positive, but it is also expected. It is taken for granted that girls can cook, even at an early age which is not the same for boys. Hell, more than once I've seem a character being said she cooks at home since she lives with her single father. Like, I doubt this situation is actually common in Japan but it is shows how normalized the idea that women cook while men don't if a father not being able to cook but his daughter being is treated as an understandable situation.

Of course, there are exceptions and unlike what I often see in western media a man cooking is always portrayed as a positive thing instead of a thing to be mocked, so I do get the sense Japan values cooking skills more in general, even homemade cooking (so not just chef stuff, which is also a very sexist industry). But I agree with you overall.

Oh, and I can't remember the specific stuff you asked, but the Fate/stay night series has a reverse of "girl cooks to cheer up dude". The main character is a very good cook and the main love interest is a food lover, so he often cooks for her specifically to make her smile (there is a more traditional love interest that cooks for him though).

Also, I guess there is Dungeon Meshi/Delicious in Dungeon. That is sorta a cooking manga though and also a fantasy series so.

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Ok, but I think Sato would be actually justified with being creeped out with the umbrella thing. =p But, sure, I like the set up, looking forward to more. I just hope the drama with the childhood friend don't get too drawn out,

Wait, a story with an amicable divorce that is not treated as a huge tragedy or anything? Am I dreaming, this is wonderful.

"There are some people who want to split things into "yuri" and "rezu" based on whether those have sexual content, but this distinction doesn't exist."

So it is like the distinction between "shoujo ai" and "yuri". Some like to pretend there is a clear difference based on how sexual the work is, but most people either use it interchangeably or favor one term over the other for everything.

I always thought if a guy became a girl I dont see why they would suddenly be into guys, as usually happens in such stoires. They would surely still be into girls- assuming they were in the first place.

It is a mix of gender essentialism and heteronormativity. Women like men, so if you turn into a woman you start liking men. Same as how many gender bender stories also have the newly turned woman suddenly become interested in "girly" things, like makeup, sweets and whatever.

Heck, I'm still not sure if it's just a political marriage with yuri behind closed doors, or if the prince gets in on the action. I get that the author wanted everyone to be happy, but I feel like there might've been a better way to utilize the prince- I initially figured he'd just be a shipper and supporter, but having him be a part of the relationship when neither party even seems to pay much attention to him over the course of the story is just weird.

The impression I got is that the prince is officially married to both, but in practice his relationship with the protagonist is just a facade. It is only Maria who is actually together with both parties.

But, yeah, it is an interesting concept but the limited number of pages made the prince side of the relationship feels weak, which ruins the concept.

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Was Non quitting a last minute decision or something? They are using anime art, which is very uncanny. Blonde Shimamura is already noticeable enough, but Yashiro in her astronaut clothes is very weird.

Yeah, from the webnovel chapters I got the impression that if she could have become Clare's maid in game she would have done so in almost every play-through and commented about it (like how she mentions she usually went for Sein's route as it is the route with the most Claire). Since she didn't, I can only assume it wasn't an option at all.

Ok, that manga have now officially thought me something new. I have no idea that "onani" came from a Biblical character. I didn't even know that character existed, much less associating it to a Japanese word.

Doesn’t seem to ever had crushes before or even thought about romance.

Didn't she kinda like Tarumi as a kid or am I remembering that wrong? (I might need to go back and read)

I think this is a valid interpretation, as far I remember, but one thing about Shimamura that I notice is that she is very out of touch with her own feelings. Like, even on her own narration her feelings for Adachi feels a lot muddled. Because she herself doesn't notice it about herself, it is left to us to notice how much she care about Adachi through her actions or less direct thoughts. If it is hard to know for sure how she feels for Adachi now, it is much harder to infer how she felt about Tarumi in the past. But because of that that I do think she might have had a minor crush as obviously Tarumi was and is important to her in a way she can't fully explain how, which mirrors Adachi.

I do find that aspect of Shimamura interesting, specially because Adachi is a bit of a mirror, being much more in tune to her own desires, even despite all her denial. So they have this dynamic where Shimamura understand others more than herself, while Adachi understand herself more than others.

The anime is very introspective, which makes sense, but, yeah, I wonder if it will work on anime. Not sure if new viewers will enjoy it.

For my part it felt quite nostalgic to see Adachi not being a complete mess all the time around Shimamura.