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joined Nov 2, 2013

Unexpected feels! I wonder if there is a continuation to this?

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

All Yohane's works are on the same 'verse, and so anything with Alice and Marisa is related to this story. Chronologically speaking this is the first on Shangai/Alice story, the final one is this: http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hoshi_utsuro and they have a cameo here:
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/touhou_blue_book_yasumi_no_saka

Hope we eventually get translated the Ran/Shou and Kanako/Hijiri ones .

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

All Yohane's works are on the same 'verse, and so anything with Alice and Marisa is related to this story. Chronologically speaking this is the first on Shangai/Alice story, the final one is this: http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hoshi_utsuro and they have a cameo here:
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/touhou_blue_book_yasumi_no_saka

Hope we eventually get translated the Ran/Shou and Kanako/Hijiri ones .

Except this isn't consistent with the Marisa x Shanghai story, since she hadn't heard Shanghai operate independently before in that story. I can't see her simply forgetting about that point. And it ignores the idea that Shanghai didn't even know about love until Marisa unless she's lying in Hoshi Utsuro (her line there is "It was the first time I felt 'My heart is in pain.'").

Further, although there's more wiggle room on this point, Alice is all about Marisa and Patchouli has agreed not to confess until Shanghai is human. So somebody's position would have to change radically for an Alice x Patchouli relationship in the other one.

last edited at Jun 23, 2014 6:01PM

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joined Nov 10, 2013

Awesome story, I'm happy to see more Shanghai. But I'd like to see what's going to happen next. It looks so unfinished, I mean, story does not have a conclusion at all.

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

The way I see this story is this:

1)This doujin (note that it was done on 2010), Alice was still in one-sided courtship with Marisa, while Marisa seemed too young to comprehend the need to love. And Shanghai(Alice's doll) had a very strong affection towards Alice, but couldn't express any of her feelings because she was a doll.

And in the end of this doujinshi, when Marisa took Alice and Shanghai to find a book about how to transform Shanghai into human, of course, in SDM, patchouli showed up, and told Shanghai that she knew what they were up to. Then Patchouli claimed that before they made it, she would have surely confessed her love to Alice, and made Alice her girl-friend.

While Shanghai was totally astonished, Patchouli left a suggestion that Shanghai could well have Marisa instead, when Alice became truelly unavailible

Then comes the second one:
http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/touhou_blue_book_haruhakutai

Patchouli did successfully confess her love to Alice, and made Alice her girl-friend

Then the third one:

http://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hoshi_utsuro

While Alice becomes really unavailible, and Reimu is already with Sanae, both Marisa and Shanghai become so alone. And at this point of time, Marisa also seems to have grown up a little to realize the need to find someone as a companion of romance, and begins to feel lonely. Therefore, these two somehow end up as a couple, just as Patchouli "predicted" in the first doujinshi of this storyline.

Of course that isn't perfect since Yohane grew as artist and storyteller during this years.

Nezchan Moderator
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joined Jun 28, 2012

And somewhere along the line, Marisa somehow forgot that Shanghai was sentient, and at the same time Shanghai utterly forgot that she was in love with Alice first (and that she'd come out as sentient to Marisa already)? Seems pretty thin, continuity wise.

Also, Patchy doesn't claim that she'd confess before they made it. She said she'd confess after Shanghai was human (and indeed, would help her do so). But apparently she forgot somewhere along the line, a lot of that going around.

As an aside, Alice and Patchy already seem to have a de facto relationship going on in Haruhakutai. So I'm not sure this is really a confession story as such. A lot of their pairings seem to just develop without anything so definite as a confession.

last edited at Jun 23, 2014 6:44PM

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joined Apr 10, 2013

Patchouli, you troll~

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

And somewhere along the line, Marisa somehow forgot that Shanghai was sentient, and at the same time Shanghai utterly forgot that she was in love with Alice first (and that she'd come out as sentient to Marisa already)? Seems pretty thin, continuity wise.

Also, Patchy doesn't claim that she'd confess before they made it. She said she'd confess after Shanghai was human (and indeed, would help her do so). But apparently she forgot somewhere along the line, a lot of that going around.

As an aside, Alice and Patchy already seem to have a de facto relationship going on in Haruhakutai. So I'm not sure this is really a confession story as such. A lot of their pairings seem to just develop without anything so definite as a confession.

I don't see a contradiction here:

  • Alice wasn't THAT surprised at Shanghai on the last doujin, if anything she came off more like 'So you really are autonomous, uh?' and she said that Shaghai was already an splendid Youkai.

  • Feelings change with the time, is actually pretty common for someone to get over a one sided love over time. And in Patchy's case she just changed her mind after her feelings for Alice grew stronger.

  • And let's not forgot that Yohane has changed his mind numerous times about Patchy, she was with Remi on his MeiSaku doujins, then with Alice here and now he's shipping her with Koa (and Remi with Satori)

  • While you have a point about Haruhakutai not having an explicit confession I don't know where are you getting that Patchy and Alice were already in a relationship there. Patchy was sulking on the library because she couldn't see Alice and when she actually wen to see her was really embarrased and a little tsunderish.

last edited at Jun 24, 2014 2:08AM

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joined Feb 28, 2013

@Dark_Tzizimine - I believe Yohane is a woman.

Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

@Dark_Tzizimine - I believe Yohane is a woman.

Really? Wow

Is certainly one of my favorites artists and I nearly had a stroke out of excitement earlier, when a yuri pic of Senran Kagura was uploaded onto her/his Pixiv.

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joined Sep 19, 2015

my face when I saw shanghai transformed
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