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Z%20ss
joined Oct 15, 2013

Mangaka has a 2-part yuri, it's the last 2 stories in Koi no Namida to Ai no Mitsu.

WARNING:

Bare with me on this, don't get spooked, read my entire post.

  • Contains the classic "boys are filty", "I don't need any boys", "girls are pure" lesbians.

  • Contains Rape. MC gets raped, as in the typical-manga-fantasy rape "But why does it feel so GOOD!", but it does not go into mindbreak (i.e. she does not fawn over the rapist's penis in the end neither falls in love with him, she hates the situation).

  • Part 2, her girlfriend finds out about the rape and she takes revenge. Rapist gets what he deserves, death. Then some nice yuri sex happens... I was not expecting this to have a good ending. So, thats good... I guess... ehh...

Story starts here http://nhentai.net/g/39277/120/
(or exhentai link http://exhentai.org/s/4b5e8f6ad0/182910-120)
part 2 continues right after part 1.

I would actually call it a good story if only her character didn't have that attitude towards boys - which feeds into the rapist's dialogue during the rape scene (which is clearly for ppl who love that fuck-a-lesbian-straight rape-talk), and the bad (fantasy) portrayal of rape (as always...). Part 2 is actually fine... as fine as it could possibly get. Quite a shame that the writing is such trash, cuz the art is great.

BUT, I CAN FIX IT! (partially)...

Recommend start near the end of part 1, here:
http://nhentai.net/g/39277/138/
(or exhentai link http://exhentai.org/s/9f8a0e6909/182910-138)

Starting from here you'll have skipped the issues I pointed out, making it a much more solid story compared to what it is.

last edited at May 18, 2015 2:42PM

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

I want to punch the mangaka for the first part. Art is nice though.

Rape is the only thing I can think of that I hate more than harems, and yet my brain won't let me read only part of something. Fuck you brain, fuck you.

Z%20ss
joined Oct 15, 2013

Problem with rape is the fetishized fantasy portrayal of it... Where the stories become about rape instead of having rape. When it is fully displayed for viewing pleasure of those who enjoy it. When characters unrealistically start enjoying being forced into it - which tends to lead them to desiring more.

The particular story had tiiiiny bits of potential brilliance in story completely shot down by porn logic and shoddy writing. The way the MC was dealing with her situation with the scumbag, attempting to keep her girlfriend away from everything, thinking of herself as lesser/soiled/dirtied as typical of a train of thought as it may be. Girlfriend finding out about the atrocity and taking anger-fueled action by her own hand to free the MC.

Rape can be part of a story and handled well in the writing of the psyche of the characters and those around them: their friends and family... But stories that do it like that are almost non-existant. Most of the stories considered good that have rape in them are usually brushed over or dealt with in an unrealistically swift fashion. Clearly most have no idea of what the actual effects such traumatizing events are, the difficulty of dealing with the aftermath... Sometimes the victims never manage to psychologically recover. In most of these stories the author just wanna give them an oh-so tragic boohoo backstory.

Agh, why am I going in depth about this... So pointless.

last edited at May 18, 2015 4:13PM

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

Art is nice, story is shitty.

OriginalGengar
Kira%202
joined Nov 29, 2014

Rape can be part of a story and handled well in the writing of the psyche of the characters and those around them: their friends and family... But stories that do it like that are almost non-existant. Most of the stories considered good that have rape in them are usually brushed over or dealt with in an unrealistically swift fashion. Clearly most have no idea of what the actual effects such traumatizing events are, the difficulty of dealing with the aftermath... Sometimes the victims never manage to psychologically recover. In most of these stories the author just wanna give them an oh-so tragic boohoo backstory.

Yeah, I can only think of Cross Heart that did it well.

Z%20ss
joined Oct 15, 2013

Rape can be part of a story and handled well in the writing of the psyche of the characters and those around them: their friends and family... But stories that do it like that are almost non-existant. Most of the stories considered good that have rape in them are usually brushed over or dealt with in an unrealistically swift fashion. Clearly most have no idea of what the actual effects such traumatizing events are, the difficulty of dealing with the aftermath... Sometimes the victims never manage to psychologically recover. In most of these stories the author just wanna give them an oh-so tragic boohoo backstory.

Yeah, I can only think of Cross Heart that did it well.

Not really... it's a skin-deep use for the sake of tragic backstory. When in reality someone unattended (wait, she was not only unattended, her own parents pushed that shit in much deeper), like in Cross Heart, would've been deeply damaged and traumatized. Simply making her open up to the MC and where it bascially goes "I love you, therefore heal up" does not really work like that irl.

But hey, at least there the event itself is portrayed as something horrible, and not something horrible for viewing pleasure.

last edited at May 18, 2015 4:57PM

joined Mar 23, 2013

But hey, at least there the event itself is portrayed as something horrible, and not something horrible for viewing pleasure.

Hey torture is cool, okay. I-I'm not strange or anything.

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