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Buzzstyle
joined Feb 10, 2013

The middle of page nine, when Yuna is undressing, her beautiful naked body on display, surrounded by that kimono and all that hair, that’s some fantastic art.

I’m quickly becoming a fan of the lesbian prostitute/brothel trope.

Areyougonnatouchem-17sq
joined Jan 27, 2019

When only women are involved all toxic things become noble.

I'm not sure why it's happening, but truly, comparing same thing looking through het prism, and looking through lesbian prism, its not the same "aura".

Does anyone have some idea why?

There are two things at play here.

First is the tendency and trend of hetero porn towards raunch and degradation for their own sakes. It's by no means universal, but the mainstream has had something of a race to the bottom, because when you desperately need to stand out from your competitors to be noticed but have no budget, making the sex dirtier and meaner is an easy solution. This then washes back into media in general, and young people's of heterosexuality.

The other is, sadly, misogyny, both externalized and internalized. "If both parties are women, then this toxic relationship can't really be bad, because women can't really hurt anybody." "The madam has a heart of gold, because, after all, she's a woman." "They're both girls, it can't really be rape." It's the same thing as, "He wasn't really raped, his assailant was a woman." Female sexuality, and female violence, are seen as inherently softer, and thus no threat to either men or other women, because women are soft and pure and can't hurt anybody, not in a real way.

(This is all very cisnormative, but of course that's part of the point. To be anything but a man is to be lesser, and to be a woman is the worst thing, so trans women are at once lesser, traitors, and attacking — trying to fool people that they have that special woman purity — and trans men are pretending to an undeserved greatness, while the nonbinary have broken the social compact and are doing both things wrong.)

To be clear, I like this piece, and I think the depiction here of love between a sex worker and her promoter is very sweet. But you'd never see the same story were the pimp male, and that's not primarily because of misandry.

last edited at Nov 15, 2021 6:50PM

joined Feb 10, 2022

Idk man looks like cuck shit to me

lol

Finding Jessica Lambert
joined Jun 20, 2020

When only women are involved all toxic things become noble.

I'm not sure why it's happening, but truly, comparing same thing looking through het prism, and looking through lesbian prism, its not the same "aura".

Does anyone have some idea why?

There are two things at play here.

First is the tendency and trend of hetero porn towards raunch and degradation for their own sakes. It's by no means universal, but the mainstream has had something of a race to the bottom, because when you desperately need to stand out from your competitors to be noticed but have no budget, making the sex dirtier and meaner is an easy solution. This then washes back into media in general, and young people's of heterosexuality.

The other is, sadly, misogyny, both externalized and internalized. "If both parties are women, then this toxic relationship can't really be bad, because women can't really hurt anybody." "The madam has a heart of gold, because, after all, she's a woman." "They're both girls, it can't really be rape." It's the same thing as, "He wasn't really raped, his assailant was a woman." Female sexuality, and female violence, are seen as inherently softer, and thus no threat to either men or other women, because women are soft and pure and can't hurt anybody, not in a real way.

(This is all very cisnormative, but of course that's part of the point. To be anything but a man is to be lesser, and to be a woman is the worst thing, so trans women are at once lesser, traitors, and attacking — trying to fool people that they have that special woman purity — and trans men are pretending to an undeserved greatness, while the nonbinary have broken the social compact and are doing both things wrong.)

To be clear, I like this piece, and I think the depiction here of love between a sex worker and her promoter is very sweet. But you'd never see the same story were the pimp male, and that's not primarily because of misandry.

Actually, I was reading something from this author (not here on Dynasty)
And I was surprised how many people commented that author gives some gender-bender vibe (like turning het manga into yuri, but not this one, what I was reading is not published here under the name of the author)
I was surprised

And then I looked up here to see how people reacted to author in this forum, and I was surprised to find my own comment (quoted above)
My comment was written before my aroused curiosity about reactions of people

Something definitely I picked up and my question (paraphrase) "whether changing polarity is changing moral norms?" reflects it, and I am not the only one who picked up something, but my reactions are not so harsh like some from the other site which I saw

And thanks for the answer on my question. Something really changes, but it's very difficult to point exactly what and explain it, I think.
If you turn het couple into GL or BL, it's just a visual trick. And some people won't be tricked, because they have a feeling who is who. Probably the same way how we can understand trans people

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