those are just the same thing as this except shes a redhead, I dont think thats what they meant

call me a buzzkill i am so bored of this arc

oh god lets not even think about SEED

Gundams always been gay, I hope we get a thousand more and more explicitly gay series going forward.

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"And if you walk away from Ep 17 thinking, "Ah these 2 are just platonic" I have no idea what to say to you."

Are people saying this?

thats a different issue

^^^ The show really did fall to pieces in the last couple episodes, having so many plots but no time at all to follow through on them (and then dedicating way too much time for a really bad Lauda arc, Fuck Lauda) Before the finale almost everyone watching was certain they'd announce another season, like they did with IBO, so there was some pretty massive whiplash when they just wrapped everything up the way they did. Unfortunately, Suletta and Miorine's relationship was the biggest victim of that pacing. I love the messy politics and themes of the older series, but I would have even forgiven them dropping the ball on all that and its characters if they really focused on their relationship, and sadly they just didnt allocate enough time. Even a few more minutes for them instead of everyone in meetings relaying things we already know would go a long way. Between the horrible production conditions and Okouchi dropping the ball every show he writes, I'm not surprised.

I'll also push back on the narrative that Gundam doesn't and has never done explicit romance or kissing. Turn A, IBO, thunderbolt, 00, 08th MS Team, even the worst hetero nightmare show SEED, theyve all done explicit romance and kissing. IBO in a roundabout way ends with a lesbian domestic partnership executed extremely similarly to Suletta and Miorine. Turn A in its own way is extremely queer in themes and coding, the main character Loran can very easily be read as trans or nonbinary, etc. Now, the scene of them floating in space is evoking a very romantic scene from F91, but like the sword fight a couple episodes prior it kind of ends up using the reference to scaffold all the meaning and weight into that scene, rather than doing the work itself.

All that said for all my problems with the end of the show, I don't mind the ending these two got itself all that much. It's cute it's nice i'm glad they got married and i'm happy for everyone who's happy. Personally I just really wish they put the time and effort to give it the weight it deserved.

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ceo x country bumpkin getting offscreen married and finding small happiness on a farm while the rest of the world is still kinda fucked.

Am I talking about Miorine and Suletta in GWitch, or Kudelia and Atra in IBO?

i must be a masochist to keep reading these comments. the salt!

Tbh the only really extremely dark Gundam series are IBO, Thunderbolt and maybe Narrative, and Thunderbolt's the only one I'd call outright torture porn. Sure Victory was dark but it had a really hopeful ending, most of Uso's friends survived I'd hardly call it a bloodbath ending. If G-Witch ends up going into super grim nihilism by the end I'd chalk that to the writers misunderstanding the series rather than some inevitability about the series itself.

panty shots are so old hat, if you cant understand the eroticism of the gym shorts i have nothing to say to you

Who said anything about panties?

i said what i said

panty shots are so old hat, if you cant understand the eroticism of the gym shorts i have nothing to say to you

Did she actually call her a chad? I'm super curious what the translation there is

lmao we're entering the point where folks just interpret everything Hiroko does as oblivious and unreasonable. This chapter's been the most reasonable Hiroko by far, even seeing both the oppressiveness of office gossip and the kind of incredibly stock romance guy Yuuya is that supported the misunderstanding.

Is it bad that I skimmed those spoilers and just got even more interested? Idk, I'm enjoying the trainwreck, don't quite get why people are so up in arms. Again, may just be personal experience talking, but this feels like a "reality is unrealistic" sort of thing.

yeah me too i'm way more interested reading all that.

Even before that though just reading the dialogue of this chapter, I get the feeling all the haters are kinda misreading the character and reinforcing their own bias. "Why is she so oblivious? How could a supposed womanizer be so blind?" But here we see it isn't just that Hiroko's too damn dense to see Ayaka's crush; rather as her work superior she's so in her head suppressing her instincts to go after this cute girl (because of gossip? workplace dynamics? is she afraid of losing her job? of Ayaka losing her job because of her? Is the combination of being her superior and a lesbian too scandalous?) that she second guesses and rationalizes all the obvious signs. Its not like this stereotype emerges in a vacuum. Under the perfect senpai veneer she's incredibly, tragically, high strung. So to me its less of the usual generic dense lesbian yuri parody and more an exaggeration of how homophobic workplace dynamics create this kind of eternal misunderstanding.

Anyway, Ayaka's sad faces are funny I don't see the problem. Definitely gonna stick around

this isnt really all that much of an Opposite

two characters i need to see fuck savagely Yesterday. What a gorgeous art style and what a dynamic!

they really went through that whole vacation arc and they didnt have a single orgy are you kidding me? no imagination whatsoever.

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really stretching out to the inevitable orgy

why did you link a jojo edit when the original is billy and mandy

I mean, there are very obviously potential power dynamic issues here, but that was true before they found out the age gap. Business owner v Part Time worker is obviously a big difference in wealth, and Mu Xiaoen is one of the most influential people in that whole town. So the power dynamics problems present in an age gap story are already here. And that wasn't enough to make people worried before. I think it really comes down to how the two interact in this case, and Mu Xiaoen doesn't seem to be the person who will abuse her power, especially when she's already so conscious of the age issue.

Yeah I second. I sometimes get the feeling people learned what a "power dynamic" is and turned it polemical when the reality is every relationship is going to have, to varying degrees, A Power Dynamic. That doesn't make it unreasonable for someone like mu xiaoen to have some discomfort about it, but it's also meant to be, yknow, a comedic overblowing of a situation because by any metric shi xingyuan is an adult who has autonomy over her own actions and her desires. you don't just avoid every potential encounter out of a fear of power dynamics, you gotta take it case by case and just, yknow, learn how to be good to each other.

not enough eri/mela I think, the teachers and Rika really (understandably) stole the spotlight

its a little contrived

this is one of the sexiest things thats been uploaded in weeks whats wrong with the crowd today

i didnt even know valorant had lore to Be gay