the pain better end by the finale of this cour because if it doesn't im pulling up the happy birthday song for myself
TctyaDDK
May 30, 2023 1:29AM
^it's Gundam, so you better define what level of leftover pain is tolerable first
HumbleBumble
May 30, 2023 2:28AM
Gundam can be pretty miserable, but overall most shows end on a high note or bittersweet at worse. I think that IBO has kind of skewed the fanbase with this idea that Gundam is always about misery and suffering and being emotional torture porn, when its really not. It's definitely going to get worse, but I think as of the most recent episode Suletta is now firmly on the up and up. I'm excited to see Suletta and Miorine drawn together by fate and the near omniscient machinations of Prospera.
ManuTheBloodedge
May 30, 2023 3:47AM
^just a reminder that V Gundam is a thing, which makes IBO look like an after-school special on child work in comparison. I would advise anyone who hopes for Suletta and Miorine to end up happy together to prepare thyne anus.
Hylarn
May 30, 2023 4:06AM
Seriously, the vast majority of Gundam stories are perfectly happy. The way things have been going so far, I expect the things to mostly work out for the main characters, and the overall setting to start heading towards a happier future
luinthoron
May 30, 2023 4:55AM
;_;
juanelric
May 30, 2023 8:02AM
@Adawal *happy deathday
Yuri Yuriyuri
May 30, 2023 10:46AM
;-;
Givemeanaccount
May 30, 2023 1:05PM
Sometimes, a bit of pain is needed for a happy ending
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Gray Shadow
May 30, 2023 4:32PM
^just a reminder that V Gundam is a thing, which makes IBO look like an after-school special on child work in comparison. I would advise anyone who hopes for Suletta and Miorine to end up happy together to prepare thyne anus.
V Gundam and IBO are only two of over 30 series. Come on now
HumbleBumble
May 30, 2023 5:06PM
I don't really know what you mean, especially with being happy together? Like, most gundam couples I can think of either die off EXTREMELY early or survive and get to be happy. Even Shiro and Aina get their happiness at the end of the absolute doozy of 08th MS Team. There's plenty of other happy couples at the end, like Domon and Rain, Garrod and Tiffa(and all the other couples in X, really), Setsuna returning at the end of the A Wakening of the Trailblazer manga to de-age Marina and pretty unambiguously getting married, Marie and Allelujah, the list really goes on. Gundam has a pretty long list of happy couples, especially when half of the couple is the show's princess.
GestalRoyale
May 30, 2023 5:29PM
Uso and Shakti wind up together and alive at the end of V Gundam. Pretty much everyone ELSE buys it, but they are okay.
Adawal
May 30, 2023 7:07PM
to be clear, i was being overly dramatic not as a Gundam fan but as a lesbian that wants the lesbians to be happy
Keen
May 31, 2023 1:57AM
Well in Gundam, happiness usually comes with a large dose of pain, whether physical or emotional...they just never end well to the MC's...
The Real Haman Karn
Jun 1, 2023 12:34AM
Tbh the only really extremely dark Gundam series are IBO, Thunderbolt and maybe Narrative, and Thunderbolt's the only one I'd call outright torture porn. Sure Victory was dark but it had a really hopeful ending, most of Uso's friends survived I'd hardly call it a bloodbath ending. If G-Witch ends up going into super grim nihilism by the end I'd chalk that to the writers misunderstanding the series rather than some inevitability about the series itself.
HumbleBumble
Jun 1, 2023 10:25PM
Gundam ends plenty well for the MCs as well.... Besides IBO(once again, noticing a trend), MCs rarely die. Off the top of my head, the only other dead Gundam MC I can think of is Amuro, which hardly counts because he shows up as a narrator in like every single UC offshoot to make commentary with his other newtype ghost buddies. Kamille is vegetized at the end of Z gundam because he's far too powerful to actually keep in the setting and would have made ZZ 2 episodes long if he was conscious. I wouldn't even count Narrative as torture porn, its just kinda unfiltered dog water and lacks any real merit besides the Phenex being Aerial's predecessor in a way.
Daburu
Jun 15, 2023 5:19PM
Even Kamille eventually gets his mind back and is shown running away in the sunset with Fa Yuiry his main love interest
inactivehunter May 29, 2023 11:44PM
Pain.
Adawal May 29, 2023 11:56PM
the pain better end by the finale of this cour because if it doesn't im pulling up the happy birthday song for myself
TctyaDDK May 30, 2023 1:29AM
^it's Gundam, so you better define what level of leftover pain is tolerable first
HumbleBumble May 30, 2023 2:28AM
Gundam can be pretty miserable, but overall most shows end on a high note or bittersweet at worse. I think that IBO has kind of skewed the fanbase with this idea that Gundam is always about misery and suffering and being emotional torture porn, when its really not. It's definitely going to get worse, but I think as of the most recent episode Suletta is now firmly on the up and up. I'm excited to see Suletta and Miorine drawn together by fate and the near omniscient machinations of Prospera.
ManuTheBloodedge May 30, 2023 3:47AM
^just a reminder that V Gundam is a thing, which makes IBO look like an after-school special on child work in comparison. I would advise anyone who hopes for Suletta and Miorine to end up happy together to prepare thyne anus.
Hylarn May 30, 2023 4:06AM
Seriously, the vast majority of Gundam stories are perfectly happy. The way things have been going so far, I expect the things to mostly work out for the main characters, and the overall setting to start heading towards a happier future
luinthoron May 30, 2023 4:55AM
;_;
juanelric May 30, 2023 8:02AM
@Adawal *happy deathday
Yuri Yuriyuri May 30, 2023 10:46AM
;-;
Givemeanaccount May 30, 2023 1:05PM
Sometimes, a bit of pain is needed for a happy ending
last edited at May 30, 2023 1:05PM
Gray Shadow May 30, 2023 4:32PM
V Gundam and IBO are only two of over 30 series. Come on now
HumbleBumble May 30, 2023 5:06PM
I don't really know what you mean, especially with being happy together? Like, most gundam couples I can think of either die off EXTREMELY early or survive and get to be happy. Even Shiro and Aina get their happiness at the end of the absolute doozy of 08th MS Team. There's plenty of other happy couples at the end, like Domon and Rain, Garrod and Tiffa(and all the other couples in X, really), Setsuna returning at the end of the A Wakening of the Trailblazer manga to de-age Marina and pretty unambiguously getting married, Marie and Allelujah, the list really goes on. Gundam has a pretty long list of happy couples, especially when half of the couple is the show's princess.
GestalRoyale May 30, 2023 5:29PM
Uso and Shakti wind up together and alive at the end of V Gundam. Pretty much everyone ELSE buys it, but they are okay.
Adawal May 30, 2023 7:07PM
to be clear, i was being overly dramatic not as a Gundam fan but as a lesbian that wants the lesbians to be happy
Keen May 31, 2023 1:57AM
Well in Gundam, happiness usually comes with a large dose of pain, whether physical or emotional...they just never end well to the MC's...
The Real Haman Karn Jun 1, 2023 12:34AM
Tbh the only really extremely dark Gundam series are IBO, Thunderbolt and maybe Narrative, and Thunderbolt's the only one I'd call outright torture porn. Sure Victory was dark but it had a really hopeful ending, most of Uso's friends survived I'd hardly call it a bloodbath ending. If G-Witch ends up going into super grim nihilism by the end I'd chalk that to the writers misunderstanding the series rather than some inevitability about the series itself.
HumbleBumble Jun 1, 2023 10:25PM
Gundam ends plenty well for the MCs as well.... Besides IBO(once again, noticing a trend), MCs rarely die. Off the top of my head, the only other dead Gundam MC I can think of is Amuro, which hardly counts because he shows up as a narrator in like every single UC offshoot to make commentary with his other newtype ghost buddies. Kamille is vegetized at the end of Z gundam because he's far too powerful to actually keep in the setting and would have made ZZ 2 episodes long if he was conscious. I wouldn't even count Narrative as torture porn, its just kinda unfiltered dog water and lacks any real merit besides the Phenex being Aerial's predecessor in a way.
Daburu Jun 15, 2023 5:19PM
Even Kamille eventually gets his mind back and is shown running away in the sunset with Fa Yuiry his main love interest
sentimeteor Aug 7, 2023 9:53AM
We got the Sulemio happy ending!