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Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

LMAO, Rose has their number.

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

I mean, the mangaka chose to have the boyfriend be a dangling thread in the first place, and it's not like he was never mentioned again after the first chapter. Ritsu's sister called her a cheater, she thought about having to tell him, as I said he was mentioned in chapter 7.1. I'd assume the author meant to tie it up eventually.

I assume the main reason he existed as a character was to highlight Ritsu's apathy and uninterest in love and dating and how uncomfortable with the prospect of intimacy, so that we see the contrast when she's with Yarai and actually attracted and interested in her partner and how she's practically jumping at the chance even if she doesn't realize it.

So once Ritsu comes to terms with her own attraction, his part in the story is done.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

That's not Youzi at the photoshoot, it's one of their producers or something.

Also, I am weirdly bothered by the fact that they put Ren Wei and Youji's names on that magazine in the reverse from where they're pictured. That's just bad graphic design!

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Evil mom confronted by pack of angry lesbians.

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

so used to thinking about "our love is disgusting" that I was really confused for a second. The downsides of getting multiple scanlations from the same mangaka lmao.

The contrast between these two series is fascinating. Usui Shio has some incredible range when it comes to tone.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

I'm beginning to get a hiiiiiiiiint of why Haneul might have left Korea...

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

"Awesome lesbian couple." -> "Evil and intimidating dog."

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

It's sorta funny that as Ema's mental health improves, Takara's deteriorates. Maybe they'll eventually meet in the middle like some kind of psychological Benjamin Button romance.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

what a terrible place for the manga to end lmao. just directly in the middle of the drama

Well... at least we do have an original version to check out.

Wait, this is the end? Haha, goddamn, that's a weird place to break end the adaptation, even if it is just an ad for the show.

Would anyone who's familiar with it be willing to post a spoilered summary of what happens afterward for the curious? Or point me to where I could read one. I'm unlikely to watch the actual show, but I'd like to know how this crazy stuff resolves.

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Proving once more that the real horrors of this world are humans~

Humans horrifying monsters is always one of my favorite variants of horror. I've always felt very skeptical of the "horrors beyond human comprehension" thing; we are quite capable of comprehending a lot of horror all by ourselves.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

clicked on this thinking it was the start of a series I might actually cry now

It's not!? I assumed the 1.0 meant it was a chapter 1, but I do see it's from an anthology so... dang, I really liked this. The art is super good, and the emotions were really well done. I'm a big sucker for the "why are you staring at me?" "You stared at me first" trope, seen it a couple times and I love it.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021
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It's a good day when a random piece of fanart leads me to find a new GL visual novel to play!

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

I know there's tons to say about this, but I'm just over here enjoying Haruyo's outfit. It's really cute!

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

I feel like normally Kon's demand would be a bit of a red flag, but in the context here I kind of get it. She knows Ai isn't over Kaede, even if Ai is denying it to herself. Nothing says "I'm over you!" like hallucinating your ex.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

I think we might at least be getting some catharsis (just in time for new different kinds of angst), if both Takara and Ema end up at the lesbian event and run into each other then it'll at least expose to each of them that the other one is a lesbian

This was my assumption as soon as the friend brought up the same event Takara's attending. Ema's gonna somehow end up there and it'll blow the lid off things, because neither one is willing to make the first move. Whether it actually solves anything...

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

@Temp - I think it's funny that you accuse me of creating a strawman, and then spend a few thousand words repeatedly putting words into my mouth and likening me to some sinister group of Western lesbians who are trying to "police" queerness, and then acting like you're brilliant for trashing your shadow-puppet foe. Someone said you're a grad student, and you certainly talk like it.

You're the one who brought up the LGBTQ+ community and queer identity, not me. I just pushed back against what I perceived to be problematic language that was unnecessarily included in your otherwise decent analysis of Class S yuri. You deliberately took shots at groups of queer people that you clearly feel aggrieved about. Maybe you have a point! I don't really know, or care.

And your response wasn't to explain yourself or acknowledge that maybe you expressed your ideas in way that could come across badly- you just went straight into insulting me and outright implying that somehow I'm queerphobic because I had the gall to call you out. And also imperialist? I guess?

But I'm not some debate bro in one of your classes that will just sit here and take your shit. It's clear that rather than have an actual discussion, you just want to write an essay and rely on your eloquence to seem like you're not just being petty and rude. So I'm just gonna say, we probably shouldn't spam this comment section with what's clearly just going to be pointless back-and-forth. This work is too good to ruin it with this kind of pointless B.S.

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

There's a very common sentiment among the more amateurish parts of the yuri fandom that Class S is an outdated genre driven by historical compromises and editorial restrictions, rendering it unable to express a 'true' lesbianism because of its focus on symbolism and subtlety. ...

"Damned lesbians! They ruined yuri!"

This is an interesting analysis of why Class S as a genre still has something to offer, but I strongly disagree with its dismissiveness toward queer identity, the desire to see queerness represented in art, and indeed the idea you seem to have that no art can include "boorish" and "vulgar" modern LGBTQ+ identity and still qualify as art.

It frankly comes across as shadowing the tired old argument that yuri is supposed to be "pure" in a way that putting actual queer identity into somehow sullies, as if someone bringing up pronouns or the dreaded "L" word will break the spell and turn precious subtle beauty into something dirty and common.

Your insinuation that this is also a difference between Western and Japanese sensibilities is troubling. The LGBTQ+ movement exists in Japan too, and they are just as much a part of the conversations about identity and awareness. They have the same flags and the same labels. And Japanese lesbians are just as interested in exploring their own experiences through art - including yuri.

One needs only look at the works of creators like Amano Shinunta, Morinaga Milk, Usui Shio, Takemiya Jin, and so on to see that there's plenty of "art" to be seen in the modern Japanese woman's experiences as a lesbian. Give me some time, and I could come up with many more. This idea that Japanese lesbians aren't part of the queer community is...quaint at best, condescending and Orientalist at worst.

And what's funny is, I'd actually argue that part of what makes this particular work great is how it's an examination of Class S tropes, not just slavishly repeating them. It's about the meeting of Class S with the messiness of actual adolescent emotions and existence. Kasumi and Haruyo try to consciously take on these roles, but it's mixed with real-world issues and longing. They're Class S Onee-sama and Sumi-chan, but they're also two young queer women who clearly have feelings for each other that don't map perfectly onto that roadmap. And them navigating those different dynamics is what I feel like the story is about. It's a celebration of Class S, but also of young love in the messiness of the real world.

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Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Meguru: "Oh no, the consequences of my actions!"

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

It occurred to me today that this manga is very similar to the Korean GL comic "Love Thy Neighbor" by Willow, except that's a longer, much more fucked up and pornographic story lmao. You know a story of juicy when the main characters have multiple nightmares about each other. I'd honestly be shocked if the author wasn't a Kodama Naoko fan, although in Love Thy Neighbor the characters actually do talk things out, mostly resulting in them realizing they're dealing with an even more broken person than they thought before.

I love that one, haha. I feel like it manages to be serious and dark, but without getting into full on bleakness. At least up to the part I've read.

This one I also get. They're both struggling with societal expectations, one shackled by traditional views of women as babymakers and caretakers (servants) for their husband, and the other one a lesbian who feels like she has no place in, and no way to effect, traditional society.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Cute.
Pretty good premise for an actual series.
"After I graduated I started dating my teacher I've been in love with for three years"

I'm trying to think of any series that actually have that premise. I know of a few that some continuation after the graduation, but they usually ends fairly quickly. I guess authors just like skirting the line of the taboo. I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one that has a former student coming back into a teacher's life years later, after having had a crush on them as a child.

A series that began with them starting to date, with the teacher still working and the younger one in college, could be interesting if it focused on the difficulties such a couple would face. Even if the technical power balance is gone, there is still the danger of the appearance of (intended or not) grooming. It's easy for us, the audience, to know things were on the up-and-up, but harder for other characters in the story. So facing increased scrutiny and doubt, and reasonable people being put off, wouldn't be a bad thing for the story to examine.

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Say it loud and there's music playing~
Say it soft and it's almost like praying~
Maria ... I'll never stop saying~
Maria!

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Not sure how much of the husband's story I can believe here. He might be as delusional as Ai is when it comes to his wife. That's assuming he's not abusive and manipulative.

Kaede sending the same picture to both Ai and her husband is very strange. I have no idea what she's trying to accomplish here.

That's the part that makes me question her motives the most. If she's genuinely trying to get away from an unhappy/bad/dangerous marriage, then why would she symbolically put her husband and lover on the same level by sending them both the photo? Has she sent him all the same photos as she sent Ai? Is she playing a game to see how they both react, or is this a cry for help that even she doesn't understand?

We're getting tiny glimpses through the keyhole, and everyone involved has only one small part of the story. Ai sees it one way, the husband sees it another, and Kon is just on the outside trying to deal with her feelings.

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

What a great illustration of societal sexism passed down from one generation to the next, in just a few quick pages. It feels like this mangaka really gets it on a genuine level and it's a pretty rare thing IMO. Thank god for her granddaughter, there's some hope yet in this world. You go granny, take all the dang classes you want !

I was thinking the exact same thing. The idea of the "dismissive laugh" is such an elegant way of describing a lot of complex issues.

It's such a great way of explaining it! And the son's casual dismissal of his mom's abilities is heartbreaking

Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

Thank you so much for translating this series! It has very quickly become one of my favorites, and one that makes my day when I see there's a new chapter out. It has this...refreshingly retro sci-fi feel, like a really creative paperback from the mid 1900's. Where the sci-fi setting starts from a simple premise (gas giant settlers, clay that can be molded by thought) and is allowed to just get really weird. The planet is as much a main character as Diode and Terra, and that's neat!

Gellydog
Prettygirlsmall
joined Jul 4, 2021

I always found it confusing which country Tima is from. is it Japan or Korea? One of their works, Swallow Tail, is Korean and uses Korean honorifics, while their other one-shots use Japanese its like a mix. The same goes for the artist Whisky. Also Tima has two Twitter accounts, both promoting in Japanese and Korean.

Tima: "You merely adopted the Korean/Japanese fusion yuri! I was born in it, molded by it!"