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so is this ever going to be concluded?

I think the current ending is the conclusion. It unambiguously wraps up the plot and answers the question posed at the beginning. I can't think how this story would benefit from any further chapters.

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The ending was pretty ok, considering recent melodramatic final arc. And have only 1 chapter to finish loose end

The gay front hit a bit of a rough part, hinting Rii to be straight and Miki to stay single after time skip. My fan shipping leaves it all to Kurumi x Yuki though, considering they are still staying around the same area.

Yuki is in a committed relationship with hallucination Megu-nee.

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Pls not poly 2.0
But I don't get that vibes, I got that Nanoha did that because made a kabedon to only Chidori felt strange (and she wanted to do it more, I can bet that too xD)

You're ascribing too much awareness to Nanoha. She actually just tripped because the train was too full and she didn't have anything to hold on to.

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Mai was right about Chidori not caring.
even if it personally inconveniences her.

Didn't you contradict yourself ? Chidori do care that Mai butt in and take some Nanoha's time but she told it in a way that it's considerate to Mai and not "i'm your gf so past your time with me and not her"

No. There's no contradiction. People are often willing to put up with inconveniences. Most of us do it every day.

And that's not really what the chapter is about. Mai assumed that Chidori would be upset that Nanoha is paying attention to her, but she isn't.

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So, about page 2, I could spot the blonde girl during the story, but I couldn't find the other two and I super confused

Those are the girls from the Missing Rink story. The characters in this series are unrelated.

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I was a little surprised by the overwhelmingly negative reaction to Mai in the comments

I mean when someone said " oh the one is crushing on is dating a girl and kiss her, that mean i have a chance", she don't give you a harmless vibe so that's kinda the normal reactions you could have about someone who seemingly want to butt in an establish relation just to snatch the girl. Even 62 is a bit of stupid thought "she doesn't say anything so she doesn't care", so the fact she is considerate and trust Nanoha enough is not an option ? You're Nanoha's friend and kohai and you seemingly don't like a bad person so she don't really have a reason to be angry.

After the two last chapter on Mangadex i know she is less mischievous than she seem to be and understand that the relation between Nanoha and Chidori is strong

I mean, Mai was right about Chidori not caring. Mai's closeness with Nanoha doesn't really bother Chidori. Chidori has complained that she doesn't get to spend as much time with Nanoha, and she feels a little envious that Mai knows more about Nanoha than she does. But she's not jealous of their relationship. She's not worried that Nanoha will betray her. She doesn't feel insecure or threatened when she sees Nanoha's consideration towards Mai. That's what Mai was commenting on—she could tell just by looking that Chidori wasn't concerned. And what we as readers know is that Chidori is fine with Nanoha spending time with Mai. Part of what she loves about Nanoha is her kindness, and so she supports her wish to take care of her friend, even if it personally inconveniences her.

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I'm happy to admit overreacting to Mai's jarring introduction as the story is going just fine now, shark jump cancelled.

I was a little surprised by the overwhelmingly negative reaction to Mai in the comments (on Mangadex, 90% of the posts are some variant of "begone thot"), even before she had a chance to do anything. But then I guess I had already read these chapters, so I knew that she was a fairly harmless addition. The focus remains firmly on main couple. Plus, Mai's perspective on the other two is entertaining, and she has enough self-awareness to have a sense of humor about the whole thing, which Chidori and Nanoha lack.

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I'd prefer it if the author doesn't just find someone for Mai to love to get rid of her. Wrapping up rivals just by having them conveniently find someone else always feels kind of fake. Also, there's more to her character than just being hung up on Nanoha. At its core, Mai's conflict is that she after being injured she decided to throw away her old life and chase after Nanoha. She avoids all her old friends, and her new friends are just Nanoha's friends. Her conflict is very similar to that of the main character of Koi wa Ameagari no You ni. She's chasing a hopeless love as a form of escapism.

So as a character, I think the natural completion of her arc will occur when she realizes she's running away from her problems and decides to actually address them. Her doctor said she might be able to play again if she went through physical therapy; maybe she'll do that. Or maybe she'll decide that she really doesn't want to play anymore, but she'll reestablish ties with her old friends. Falling in love with someone else might be part of that, but if that's all that happens, then she'll really just be avoiding her real problems in a different way. Her conflict won't be resolved until she can honestly say that it was her decision to stop leave the team, or she admits that she really wishes she could play.

I meant to same something about new girls issues.

I feel like most stories I've read haven't given the loser in the love triangle someone. Then again, I had been avoiding stories with love triangles.

I read a lot of stories with love triangles. And it seems like half the time some minor character gets promoted or some new person shows up out of nowhere just to square the triangle.

Those also tend to be the stories where Everyone Is Gay, so I guess they aren't really going for realism in the first place.

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I'd prefer it if the author doesn't just find someone for Mai to love to get rid of her. Wrapping up rivals just by having them conveniently find someone else always feels kind of fake. Also, there's more to her character than just being hung up on Nanoha. At its core, Mai's conflict is that she after being injured she decided to throw away her old life and chase after Nanoha. She avoids all her old friends, and her new friends are just Nanoha's friends. Her conflict is very similar to that of the main character of Koi wa Ameagari no You ni. She's chasing a hopeless love as a form of escapism.

So as a character, I think the natural completion of her arc will occur when she realizes she's running away from her problems and decides to actually address them. Her doctor said she might be able to play again if she went through physical therapy; maybe she'll do that. Or maybe she'll decide that she really doesn't want to play anymore, but she'll reestablish ties with her old friends. Falling in love with someone else might be part of that, but if that's all that happens, then she'll really just be avoiding her real problems in a different way. Her conflict won't be resolved until she can honestly say that it was her decision to stop leave the team, or she admits that she really wishes she could play.

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Here we go... So... it looks like the really tall girl is a kohai and she's had a longstanding crush on Nanoha. She even came to this school because of her and joined the basketball team because of her only to find out that she wasn't playing anymore. And now she's got this sympathy card she is playing and Nanoha is spending all of her time with her and, in no uncertain terms, neglecting her girlfriend.

Meanwhile, Mai saw them kissing and see this as her having a shot at getting what she's always wanted: her senpai as her girlfriend. Chidori is already jealous of the amount of time that Nanoha is spending with the girl so it's only a matter of time before she figures out that Mai is in love with her girlfriend as well. I expect that she'll try to tell Nanoha that her kohai is trying to steal her away from her and Nanoha will get mad because she will not believe her and accuse her of being jealous for no reason... (I know there is a fight coming up...)

Nice guess about the cause of their fight. It's kind of funny though, you got the whole thing backwards.

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no that's a smirk. it's a fairly common image to portray a smug feeling like that, where they just show the mouth, no eyes. and her being embarrassed for "accidentally sharing too much" is pretty commonly used as well. it's to make themselves look even more pathetic. and obviously she will try something or the author wouldn't have put her in with this set up at all ;) of course you can say don't judge people by what they haven't done, but this is a book, not real people, and authors often follow fairly predictable patterns.

Well, we'll who's right soon enough spoiler: it's going to be me.

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What's going to bug me the most about this is Mai taking advantage of (if not predating upon) Nanoha's kindness, and the fact that it's probably going to have a big negative impact on Nanoha when this all blows up.
I realize manipulators are a pretty common trope for a series, but they just always pinch a nerve for me especially.

The thing about Mai's behavior is that, while she certainly is being manipulative, there's no sign that she's being dishonest. Her breakdown in front of Nanoha in chapter 60 wasn't just a performance; she genuinely feels adrift and alone. Also, her manipulation so far has been pretty harmless. She wants to spend more time with Nanoha, so she pulls on Nanoha's emotions in a way that will make her spend more time with her. But if she had just come out and said that she needed her to be there for her, Nanoha would've said yes.

she says very clearly she wants nanoha as her gf, what she is doing is pure manipulation. you see that smirk after nanoha hugs her. i don't think her talking about her not having friends was genuine in the least. not to say her having no friends isn't true, but she was definitely using it to get nanoha. she knows how caring nanoha is and played her like a harpstring. adn it's not harmless, she's actively trying to steal nanoha away. she SAW them kissing, she KNOWS they are obviously together. how is that not harmless?

That's not a smirk, that's a smile. She's smiling because she's happy that she's being comforted. That is a normal human response. Nothing in the art or dialogue suggests she's being false or deceptive, and the paneling on pages 151-153 in particular suggests genuine emotion. On 152, the author conveys Mai's feeling of emptiness through the art. On page 153, Mai tries to dismiss what she said because she's embarrassed for accidentally sharing too much, and she's surprised to see how strongly Nanoha has reacted. Not exactly the reactions of someone who planned it all out to guilt-trip her. I guess you could read the chapter and interpret things your way, but I believe you're ignoring strong textual and artistic cues in order to project your reading onto the chapter.

I said her manipulation is harmless because she hasn't actually done anything to negatively impact Nanoha's relationship with Chidori. Her motive (steal Nanoha away) might be wicked, but I'd say it's better to judge someone by their actions. Has she tried to turn Nanoha away from Chidori? No. Has she interfered in their relationship in any way? No. All she's done is reestablished ties with an old friend. A result of that is that Nanoha has spent a little less time with Chidori, but that's just how life works. We each have limited time and have to decide how to allocate that.

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What's going to bug me the most about this is Mai taking advantage of (if not predating upon) Nanoha's kindness, and the fact that it's probably going to have a big negative impact on Nanoha when this all blows up.
I realize manipulators are a pretty common trope for a series, but they just always pinch a nerve for me especially.

The thing about Mai's behavior is that, while she certainly is being manipulative, there's no sign that she's being dishonest. Her breakdown in front of Nanoha in chapter 60 wasn't just a performance; she genuinely feels adrift and alone. Also, her manipulation so far has been pretty harmless. She wants to spend more time with Nanoha, so she pulls on Nanoha's emotions in a way that will make her spend more time with her. But if she had just come out and said that she needed her to be there for her, Nanoha would've said yes.

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Also, thank you schuyguy for making it even more interesting with that ambigous hint XD (no, really, now I am thinking of all the possible scenarios while anxiously waiting for the next chapters :P)

I'm not trying to spoil anything. I just wanted to say that reactions like this:

UGH I HATE THIS.

No orginal ideas for conflict in your yuri? Just add an annoying girl who will try to break up the main ship! Everyone will love it! It'll take a while, and then you can resolve it and everyone will be happy.

Why is this shit in 99.9% of high school yuri? Time to stop reading for 10 chapters, and catch up once this is over with.

are completely unwarranted.

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Do we really HAVE to go into love triangle angsty rubbish? So predictable. And annoying..

Just get it over with in a few chapters please- don't drag it out 3 volumes because nobody can actually say what they think.

I'm just going to say that this doesn't go the way you think it's going.

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This has rapidly become one of my all-time favorite stories That don't have neko-ears and iirc there's an anime on the way?
It's just all-around good. The pace, the funny, the art, everything is good.

An anime? Where'd you hear that? I figure if there was an anime adaptation coming, the author would mention it on her twitter, but she hasn't.

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There's apparently a sequel manga (Or maybe its an extra? I don't know tbh) of sorts that takes place after the events of HSL, like teenage Shio. I've only seen a few panels without context and all in japanese. So hopefully it gets translated as well because i need to know if my children are finally happy and sane or if Shio just followed after Satou in becoming an abductor in the name of Love.

There are some more extras and shorts. Don't expect an actual sequel. They're mostly set during the events of the story or are silly hypotheticals. We're working on them

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I'd honestly be disappointed if it wasn't to be revealed the other girls
a) already know about them dating
b) were intentionally playing oblivious because it was so much more fun to see them squirm
and c) were having a betting-pool between them about when the other two finally came out.

I think they didn't actually know before. There were too many scenes where one of them would've brought it up or acted differently if they'd known. However, I'm pretty sure at least one of them knows now.

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But why do they only buzz in Chidori's room? An infestation?

Those things are loud, you can hear them wherever. But I wonder if the author is emphasizing the two character's different reactions with the SFX. In Chidori's world, summer is unpleasant heat and buzzing cicadas. In Nanoha's world, summer is bright blue skies and air so clear it sparkles. Perhaps their perceptions are colored by their emotional states.

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No body else gonna talk about how sociopathic the MC is? She recognized a perceived inferiority in herself, but instead of moving on like a normal person, she acted solely to make herself feel superior to those around her. That's scary shit. It's one thing to behave that way and not recognize it, but to see your own inferiority complex and feed it... Wow.

It didn’t come off that way to me at all.

That's how I interpreted it. She accepted Akane's affection not out of any affection for Akane, but because it makes her feel less shitty about herself to have someone she felt inferior to need her. Kotori felt eclipsed by Akane's beauty, but now the person she silently envied and resented is in her power.

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I've got translations more chapters and I'm ready to keep going if someone is willing to pick up the editing.

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Man, I'd only read the first chapter before now, and I really didn't expect this to have a harem ending.

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She didn't but she really brought it upon herself. She failed to understand Sato and then in Sato's eyes betrayed her, endangering the single most important thing to Sato. If she hadn't gone about things so stupidly she probably wouldn't have died and things could've found a better ending.

And we're back. Apparently victim-blaming is obviously wrong when it comes to rape but it's perfectly acceptable when it's only something as minor as murder.

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It’s the “Needed Killing” exception to the prohibition on homicide.

That’s considered a form of public service, actually.

Japan is notoriously accepting of vigilantism.

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shit taste confirmed. also she only killed one person who did not deserved all other deaths were justified.

One isn't enough?

Everyone knows you get one freebie before your immortal soul becomes permanently stained with blackest sin. It's in the bible, or Kant, or something.