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Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Well, I guess that's the burden of being a tsundere even in your own mind!

To quote Nez, "'Tsundere' is a character flaw that prevents a character from being happy"...

last edited at Nov 15, 2017 4:27PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

auikimaya posted:

Guys, the imgur link for the chart is broken. Just wanted to let you know

It's best to check back with the original release post that I edit to update. We've moved to a Google Drive-based png sharing system because it allows for versioning so I don't have to update the link every time I update the graphic.

Hey, thanks a bunch, guys! You're doing the lord's job

I think you mean "the Lady's job"? As in, "Our Lady au Lait"?

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

@OP: If you want on-going series that seem to be universally adored on this forum, these three seem to be it at the moment:

https://dynasty-scans.com/series/bloom_into_you
https://dynasty-scans.com/series/a_kiss_and_a_white_lily
https://dynasty-scans.com/series/kase_san (this series is completed, but a sequel series is ongoing)

Also, https://dynasty-scans.com/authors/mochi_au_lait is the current hottest individual author around here.

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

What a horrible rotten bitch. Same goes to the author.

The immaturity of some people... It's like calling Thomas Harris a sick cannibal for writing about Hannibal Lecter.

last edited at Nov 14, 2017 12:34PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

And lol it seems the winner for the next student council is clear, would be really fun if they say "FROM NOW ON YURI IS PROHIBITED!!"

And start a school-wide riot? I don't think so. :D

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

The Doylist argument against killing goes right out of the window if consider Force canon (and I don't see any reason not to), besides, it's not a very fun one. :P

Regarding your other points, you often argument from "infeasibility", but I do not think our thoughts on feasibility of certain notions apply to a highly-advanced futuristic society that exists across multiple worlds and has confronted and apparently long solved social questions that ours doesn't even begin to consider (like how to deal with living sentient beings who are not human (dragons), humans who have been grown in a vat, and sentient beings composed entirely of magic). Given, however, how this counterargument provokes the notion that we can't really say anything about the Mid except what has been directly shown to us, I will accept the validity of your feasibility arguments for now.

Now, we clearly have examples of Ancient Belkan magic being used to kill, and we know from canon (though I can't provide a specific citation) that both Belkan and Mid magic rely on the same type of energy/mana. Hence, if there is a difference in how the two systems treat living and/or organic and inorganic matter, it must be in their own restrictions of how magical energy is used, rather than in the nature of magic itself. My original argument was that most attack spells of the Mid school are non-lethal, even if taken without a Barrier Jacket. Conversely, there are examples when a person is physically harmed by a Mid spell even while wearing a Jacket (Precia shoots right through Arf in season 1, leaving a perforating wound; Nanoha's fingers bleed when she catches Teana's blade with them during the White Devil incident). With these and previously named examples, it appears to me that while magical energy can always be used to cause bodily harm, the vast majority of Mid spells are designed to overwhelm the target's magical defenses (if any) and nervous system instead. In other words, Mid magic is set to stun unless specifically designed to kill, which is strongly discouraged (remember that Precia was an insane wanted criminal, while Teana got head-cooled as punishment for, among other things, using a lethal form of magic).

The other point of contention seems to be whether TSAB is a military or not, and consequently, whether they need lethal weapons that can be set to stun or non-lethal weapons that need an optional lethal setting. My answer is still that they are not a military, since there is no other organized military or paramilitary force for them to fight, and we never get any indications that there have been major interdimensional armed conflicts since the Belkan Wars. As such, I cannot imagine which "external threat" you may be referring to. In such political situation it would actually be very easy for TSAB to position itself as the interdimensional law enforcement and administration body that only polices, without imposing its will with military might. Recall, for instance, that they do not interfere in the armed conflict on Orusea (SSX), even though, have they had an active military, they could have easily moved in and nipped the hostilities in the bud with superior firepower. Taking the Doylist perspective again, I think that TSAB is much more inspired by the bureaucratic structures of the Chinese Han and Tang dynasties (Han get a bonus for rising from the ashes of the Warring States, similar to how Mid rose from Belka's remains, while Tang pioneered the standardized public servant exams like the Mid has for its mages, see StrikerS), than by the pre-modern and modern Western (particularly British-American) imperialistic militarism.

I would also like to point out that what makes an organization a military is not the ranks, the weaponry, and the vehicles but the purpose and the personal training derived from it. A military's purpose is to destroy other states and militaries' combat capacity, allowing their respective rules to enforce their policies onto other states. A police's purpose is to preserve social order, using violence if necessary, but always with the goal of saving lives and property, if possible. While both require extensive physical training and discipline, one major difference is in the psychological conditioning: a military trains you to kill before you and your squadmates are killed, a police trains you to find ways to spare even those who try to kill you (unless, of course, you live in some crazy country where the cops always shoot to kill). Given that there has not been any comparable military or political structure for TSAB to fight in the past 80 years (see above), and that at no point do we see any TSAB personnel officially sanctioning the use of lethal force (and recall that Signum specifically declines training duties in StrikerS because she can only teach others to kill and doesn't consider it useful knowledge for Bureau cadets), I'd say it is much more logical to assume that TSAB sees itself and functions much more as a law enforcement agency than as a military. And as such, they should require their agents to use non-lethal weaponry as much as possible (even in the face of criminal using lethal weapons against them -- in fact, they would be specifically trained for that, just like the RL police), especially considering that most of their engagements must happen in densely populated urban areas and we know that even on the Mid, most people don't have magical talents and cannot summon Barrier Jackets (and Yuuno is apparently the only guy in the universe who is overpowered enough to actually stop and reverse time to fix collateral damage).

If you would like to know what the Mid would look like if TSAB actually was a military with someone to fight, I can recommend reading the Nanoha BetrayerS doujin. Or not, if you don't want to witness the Nanoha canon and ideals completely perverted and defiled.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I'm honestly a bit confused too… She's been saying "I love you" as a morning greeting to Ayaka for 36 chaps, so why can she no longer say it now? Does that mean she didn't consider herself in love "for real" before that (cf chapter 11)? I guess it's a continuation of chap 35, where she went from "loving her because she's her rival" to "being her rival because she loves her".

Rather, I think it means that by using "I love you" to mean superficial affection for so long, Kurosawa has internalized that lesser meaning, so when she finally got to experience the all-encompassing consummate love, she didn't have a word for it anymore.

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Feel sorry for the husband in this case. Cheating is bullshit. Everyone gets a happy ending, except for the guy who is providing for everyone else. What a garbage story.

I'd argue that he's the happiest of them all, since he doesn't have to suffer the crippling doubt and self hatred that plagues the two women.

Well, in the moment, this is true. And the next moment we consider is him discovering that the person he has entrusted his household and a considerable chunk of his life to has been lying in his face for a long, long time. No matter how you look at it, cheating hurts.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

You know, Shiramine doesn't look too confused on page 30, not even surprised -- more like saddened, and a little bit frustrated that it took Kurosawa so long to realize her feelings. It makes me think that unlike her, Shiramine has long understood and made peace with her feelings, and has been only waiting for Kurosawa to make the first move in some way.

Or I may be reading too deeply into this...

Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Original Mental Illness Girls Love Anthology

O_o

My thoughts exactly.

I wonder if the whole anthology is devoted to unhealthy relationships, with a title like that. Given that the other translated one-shot from it involves self-mutilation...

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Wtf is this universe

Best yuri universe

why does it need a massive chart.

Because every work is related to some degree

Wait, does it make the works themselves sisters? When will we see "Met "Met My Sister On A Dating Site" On A Dating Site", told from "Met My Boss On a Dating Site"'s perspective?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Koveras
Alternatively, we could go here. It is an off-topic thread for this Forum, so basically we can discuss anything there. The place is almost completely dead at this point, so all the reason more no one would object.

Welp, let's give it a shot.

Continuing the discussion from here:

The best courtship is beating each other silly with non-lethal weaponry. ^__^

...provided you wear a Barrier Jacket.

Barrier Jackets just protect you from getting slammed against the walls and such. AFAIK the magical attacks themselves don't actually cause any permanent physical damage in Nanohaverse...

Notice the number of walls and bulkheads that gets smashed. Only reason Quattro survived that was because of her Silver Cape, which is cyborg equivalent to a Barrier Jacket.

Edit: Besides, it would be highly unusual to have a military based on non-lethal weaponry. Arc-en-ciel, the ship-carried magical wave motion gun, and basically the ultimate magical weapon TSAB has in its arsenal, is stated to be capable of obliterating everything in a 100 mile radius.

I admit that there is a weird discrepancy in the destructive potential of Mid magic against living and non-living matter. Here is a counterexample for you: when Vice accidentally shot his sister (who was definitively not wearing any protective magics at the time) through the eye, she merely lost vision in that one eye, as if from an intense laser, rather than losing half of her head, as she would with an equivalent RL sniper rifle. I also recall him and Teana later shooting Nove, Wendi, and Deed in the (visibly unprotected) heads with magic bullets to instantly knock them out without causing any lasting physical damage. Come think of it, even Quattro was completely engulfed in Nanoha's DB beam, so either the Barrier Jackets (and the Numbers' counterparts) cover the entire body in a uniform layer of protection (a broad conjecture), or the magical attacks used by Mid mages only cause pain and fatigue without actual physical damage to most tissues (hypersensitive ones like retinas not included).

As for your second point, TSAB is not a military, despite having armed forces. Much rather, they position themselves as a paramilitary force whose purpose is policing, peacekeeping, and disposing of Lost Logia. Recall that Regius Gaiz' ideas about building up the Mid's military capacities did not sit well with anyone else in the Bureau, so much so that he had to conspire with Scaglietti to build his Einherial system and to sacrifice Zest to cover it all up. As for the Arc-en-ciel, it has only been used for Lost Logia disposal, never as a weapon against living beings, and only in space. Sure, if you pump enough energy into a limited space, everything within that space will disintegrate, but I don't think any regular Midchildan mage can pull that off (note that I only speak of the Mid mages, not the Belkan girls with their murder spells).

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Wow! Mochi actually confirmed it was Kagaya Tsubomi.

Now, it actually sucks to be Tsubomi. Everyone in her life is hooking up with their sisters, except her.

#OddSisterProblems

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

With the Tsubomi-Ayumu relationship, the Kagaya Inn is finally connected to the rest of the verse.

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Koveras
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

(Note: The image after this link is a preview. To see the full-resolution live you have to click "Open in Draw.Io" at the top-center of the screen.)

What should I do if no such link appears anywhere on the linked page?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I'd love to continue this discussion, but this is really the wrong thread for it... @Mods: Is it possible to move my and UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins' latest posts over to one of the Nanoha-related threads? If not, maybe we can continue it on the Nanoha wiki talk pages or something...

Not really, no.

OK. @UANAJC: If you'd like to continue the discussion of Barrier Jackets and Nanoha magic over at the Nanoha wiki, just drop me a note at my talk page.

last edited at Nov 13, 2017 1:14AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I'd love to continue this discussion, but this is really the wrong thread for it... @Mods: Is it possible to move my and UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins' latest posts over to one of the Nanoha-related threads? If not, maybe we can continue it on the Nanoha wiki talk pages or something...

last edited at Nov 12, 2017 4:17PM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

The best courtship is beating each other silly with non-lethal weaponry. ^__^

...provided you wear a Barrier Jacket.

Barrier Jackets just protect you from getting slammed against the walls and such. AFAIK the magical attacks themselves don't actually cause any permanent physical damage in Nanohaverse...

Koveras
Kase-san discussion 12 Nov 03:38
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

That is, in fact, exactly what they did in the official English tank.

That is exactly the matter under discussion—which one works better?

Coming from Yamada, who is a confirmed genetically-engineered human-shaped plant raised in a vat, confusing "like" with "love" is natural and in-character. Coming from Kase, it doesn't work at all, since Kase knows very damn well what her feelings are and what she wants from Yamada.

last edited at Nov 12, 2017 3:38AM

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Anyway, here-here for pillow fights...great ice breaker! Get hot and sweaty in bed without the(or before) the anxiousness/anticipation ^_^

Yup, it seems the girls have gone to the Nanoha dating school. The best courtship is beating each other silly with non-lethal weaponry. ^__^

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

channels the power of denial
She's just ... a very ... butch sister!

I've seen this raw strength of denial only once before. It didn't scare me enough then. It does now.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

So they were married to their other sisters previously? Must be. Can't be anything else. I refuse to entertain any other option.

Maybe they were married to another pair of sisters, who ended up cheating on them with each other, leading to both divorces? This is the only logical scenario in Mochiverse.

Koveras
Kase-san discussion 11 Nov 11:44
Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

adorable dorks

Adorkable.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

My favorite thing about Fate in every single NanoFate doujin in existance is that, by all means, she SHOULD be the typical cool, collected beauty, yet in just a couple of pages it's made obvious she's just a giant nerd

She spent four years in almost total isolation with a parent who hated her, with nothing but books to entertain her, plus, she was a math prodigy, like all child mages in the series. What else could she be other than a huge nerd?

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Make a Twitch account
Play videogames
?????
Profit

I'm surprised her mom doesn't nag her about getting married. Is this manga really set in Japan?

Alternatively, she could just go into the porn industry -- with curves like that, she'd be cast right away.

I mean sure but then this would be het and thats just no good. :3

There is a huge market for lesbian porn, even domestically in Japan. Just sayin'...

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