@lzz
I like Sumin because she is reasonable, mature, loyal, strong,... I can write a book defending her. You guys' Sumin is unreasonable, childish, depressed, weak, damaged, fragile,.... We are not on the same team.
She's not really strong. If she was, she'd break things up with Seju for good a long time ago.
Do you not realize that if Sungji were Sumin's 2nd girlfriend, the whole "Sumin going back to Seju again and again, or Sumin going back to Seju for her revenge" thingy would never have happened?
Was there a reason for Sumin to end her bed-mates relationship with Seju? Without Seju in her life, would she not break up with others at all? Would she not randomly find another ajumma to comfort her every time she broke up until the day she finally happened to hit on met a perfect sex-mate an angelic cutie who loved her for lust unconditionally? I thought every wdtfs reader knew that Sumin was a player, and it was not out of unordinary for a player to feel like seeking for a bed-comfort.
I really fail to see how Sumin not breaking things up with Seju during the past 10 years could imply anything about her being not emotionally strong. Imo, from Sumin's perspective, ending her bed-mates relationship with Seju was unnecessary because, during that time, she was never aware of the fact that she was still in love with Seju. Also, Seju never asked to start over again. Plus, there was no sign indicating that their relationship was anything more than a physical or friends-with-benefits one either. Ending things with Seju became necessary after Nami made her realize that she still loved Seju.
And she wouldn't let Seju onto her in the office when she was in a relationship with Sungji.
I personally find it so hard to make a decision on a trade-off between being emotionally strong and being unheartless. Poor me, I'm emotionally weak. lol Do you perhaps also think that Sumin letting Seju live in her house like these days mean that she is not emotionally strong?
She's partially reasonable.
If you have a valid reason to do something unreasonable, or you do something unreasonable under a circumstance where reasonable people would do the same, your action is unreasonable, but you still belong with reasonable people imo (and in my book).
She's not depressed. She was 10 years ago when she's lost her parents. It's you who say she's using her depression to achieve something when it's not true. But you'll never understand it because you can't see the difference between depression and depressed state, they're both the same to you when in reality they're not.
Do not be so certain about your "Sumin had depressions because everyone who experienced that kind of tragedy must end up having depressions" opinion. If there is a too good to be true protagonist, Sungji, in wdtfs, please also do consider that wdtfs could also have a protagonist who's a little more special than ordinary people you have met so far. I think you need to be called out by Es0teric telling you that they wouldn't be bold to say there isn't anyone who went through that kind of incident and had no depressions considering that the world has 7.5 billion people. lol
I said Sumin was using her depression caused by the deaths of her parents as an excuse to seduce Sungji. However, never in my life, I agreed with you guys' ideas about her having depressions. I was proving that it was a depressed state not depression. Your responses to me were along the lines "No, a failed excuse is not an excuse", "No, she wasn't seducing Sungji since it was just a hug, she could always hug Sungji (according to your personal opinion about hugging)". iirc, Sumin's monologue stated clearly that she was baiting Sungji. Apparently, you intentionally ignored what was already clearly presented in the manhwa, no?
It's Seju who's starting to show signs of depression now, but somehow you never said she's using it to get what she wants...
She was using what to get what? Did she do anything again? what signs? Yeah, I never said anything about it cuz I never saw anything about it. One possible reason why I totally fail to see it is because I'm not you or Es0teric. Unlike both of you, I don't and will never understand depressions.
She is damaged. But so is Seju. You can't not be damaged after everything they faced. The only not damaged character is Sungji.
Your logic.
She's a complicated character with many layers and this makes her the most interesting to me.
This makes Seju the best target of blame for Seju haters and many Sumin fans (for instance, you and Es0teric, right?), who fully believe that Sumin always went back to Seju because she was emotionally fragile and mentally ill or dumb enough to be manipulated for the whole 10 years by Seju. Poor Seju, if only she was not too appealing for a pervert, Sumin, to resist, or if she didn't surpass all of those Sumin's women in term of everything despite her cheating on Sumin with a guy, or if Sumin didn't want to get revenge on her, people would probably not have made her sound like a brilliant-yet-dumb manipulator who only knew how to manipulate, yet didn't know how to win an emotionally-broken person back, wasted her 10 years only to be defeated by an inexperienced cutie. lol
Yes, we do read her differently. But we don't read her the way you say we do.
As if. Whatever, read in any way you like, just do not forget that Sumin is a fox.
I never meant to argue with only both of you. However, I never wondered why I did that though. As always, you guys' comments are just so attractive. Can't help.
@Nora
Hi, I come back here as I remember that I quoted your comment but actually I meant to say I felt offended by Es0teric's comment, not yours.