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Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

@Nora

Thanks a lot.. I understood it back then.
I hope you are doing okay and btw.. Ken asked me about you in Discord.

Thanks. Ken was cheating on me in Discord! No!

@yoonie

Hey, long time no see :) and I miss your one-line comments alot :)), hope you're doing well with your finals xDDDD

Hi. Thanks. :'D My finals are coming. I will not visit the forum until July. I hope wdtfs will not end in June.

@lzz

We've had this conversation quite a long time ago and I wish to not go back to it. But I think I should clarify you with 2 things:
1. We were saying Sumin had a depression 10 years ago.

And I said no, it was not a depression, but a depressed state.

  1. We were saying Sumin wasn't using a depressed state to seduce Sungji. It was just a sad story.

And I was arguing about that she didn't have a depression in the first place.

And with this, I'm ending this topic. Will never agree when it comes to psychology, you have your own pov which you'll never change,

Ms. Future tellers, both of you.

even when given facts.

=.= Poor you trying so hard to give me facts, yet I still... sigh.

Good to see you back though :)

I've not been back though. :)

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

@lzz

I like Sumin because she is reasonable, mature, loyal, strong,... I can write a book defending her. You guys' Sumin is unreasonable, childish, depressed, weak, damaged, fragile,.... We are not on the same team.

She's not really strong. If she was, she'd break things up with Seju for good a long time ago.

Do you not realize that if Sungji were Sumin's 2nd girlfriend, the whole "Sumin going back to Seju again and again, or Sumin going back to Seju for her revenge" thingy would never have happened?

Was there a reason for Sumin to end her bed-mates relationship with Seju? Without Seju in her life, would she not break up with others at all? Would she not randomly find another ajumma to comfort her every time she broke up until the day she finally happened to hit on met a perfect sex-mate an angelic cutie who loved her for lust unconditionally? I thought every wdtfs reader knew that Sumin was a player, and it was not out of unordinary for a player to feel like seeking for a bed-comfort.

I really fail to see how Sumin not breaking things up with Seju during the past 10 years could imply anything about her being not emotionally strong. Imo, from Sumin's perspective, ending her bed-mates relationship with Seju was unnecessary because, during that time, she was never aware of the fact that she was still in love with Seju. Also, Seju never asked to start over again. Plus, there was no sign indicating that their relationship was anything more than a physical or friends-with-benefits one either. Ending things with Seju became necessary after Nami made her realize that she still loved Seju.

And she wouldn't let Seju onto her in the office when she was in a relationship with Sungji.

I personally find it so hard to make a decision on a trade-off between being emotionally strong and being unheartless. Poor me, I'm emotionally weak. lol Do you perhaps also think that Sumin letting Seju live in her house like these days mean that she is not emotionally strong?

She's partially reasonable.

If you have a valid reason to do something unreasonable, or you do something unreasonable under a circumstance where reasonable people would do the same, your action is unreasonable, but you still belong with reasonable people imo (and in my book).

She's not depressed. She was 10 years ago when she's lost her parents. It's you who say she's using her depression to achieve something when it's not true. But you'll never understand it because you can't see the difference between depression and depressed state, they're both the same to you when in reality they're not.

Do not be so certain about your "Sumin had depressions because everyone who experienced that kind of tragedy must end up having depressions" opinion. If there is a too good to be true protagonist, Sungji, in wdtfs, please also do consider that wdtfs could also have a protagonist who's a little more special than ordinary people you have met so far. I think you need to be called out by Es0teric telling you that they wouldn't be bold to say there isn't anyone who went through that kind of incident and had no depressions considering that the world has 7.5 billion people. lol

I said Sumin was using her depression caused by the deaths of her parents as an excuse to seduce Sungji. However, never in my life, I agreed with you guys' ideas about her having depressions. I was proving that it was a depressed state not depression. Your responses to me were along the lines "No, a failed excuse is not an excuse", "No, she wasn't seducing Sungji since it was just a hug, she could always hug Sungji (according to your personal opinion about hugging)". iirc, Sumin's monologue stated clearly that she was baiting Sungji. Apparently, you intentionally ignored what was already clearly presented in the manhwa, no?

It's Seju who's starting to show signs of depression now, but somehow you never said she's using it to get what she wants...

She was using what to get what? Did she do anything again? what signs? Yeah, I never said anything about it cuz I never saw anything about it. One possible reason why I totally fail to see it is because I'm not you or Es0teric. Unlike both of you, I don't and will never understand depressions.

She is damaged. But so is Seju. You can't not be damaged after everything they faced. The only not damaged character is Sungji.

Your logic.

She's a complicated character with many layers and this makes her the most interesting to me.

This makes Seju the best target of blame for Seju haters and many Sumin fans (for instance, you and Es0teric, right?), who fully believe that Sumin always went back to Seju because she was emotionally fragile and mentally ill or dumb enough to be manipulated for the whole 10 years by Seju. Poor Seju, if only she was not too appealing for a pervert, Sumin, to resist, or if she didn't surpass all of those Sumin's women in term of everything despite her cheating on Sumin with a guy, or if Sumin didn't want to get revenge on her, people would probably not have made her sound like a brilliant-yet-dumb manipulator who only knew how to manipulate, yet didn't know how to win an emotionally-broken person back, wasted her 10 years only to be defeated by an inexperienced cutie. lol

Yes, we do read her differently. But we don't read her the way you say we do.

As if. Whatever, read in any way you like, just do not forget that Sumin is a fox.

I never meant to argue with only both of you. However, I never wondered why I did that though. As always, you guys' comments are just so attractive. Can't help.

@Nora
Hi, I come back here as I remember that I quoted your comment but actually I meant to say I felt offended by Es0teric's comment, not yours.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

waiting for Sia's katana comment XD

Sorry. I feel offended. My final is approaching as well. Have fun. Bye.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

and bolsters my belief that you do not and will not understand depression.

In your own weird pov.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Sorry Sia ue if i don't discuss Depression with you anymore. I'll give you points for trying to understand it but that's all because i'm having a hard time believing you do understand it.

I am curious though, as you are a Sumin "fan" why does it feel like you do nothing to defend her? Why do you argue so much with the only two other people who actually show they like her?

I like Sumin because she is reasonable, mature, loyal, strong,... I can write a book defending her. You guys' Sumin is unreasonable, childish, depressed, weak, damaged, fragile,.... We are not on the same team.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Why wouldn't she be able to hug Sungji? You don't need a weepy story to hug someone

You need a weepy story to hug me, you know? :'D

my neighbor's cat died ! :(
hug??

xD

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

However, Sumin was using her depression as an excuse , right?

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Why wouldn't she be able to hug Sungji? You don't need a weepy story to hug someone

You need a weepy story to hug me, you know? :'D

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

She end up emotionally and physically drained after getting her parents bodies back.

She got up and looked for the ring, then went to buy some flowers, then went to Seju's house. physically drained lol

Try putting yourself in her shoes, ask yourself how would you feel.

I guess you did put yourself in her shoes, right? That's why you could write this line below:

She was unable to live like a normal human being because she felt like her entire world ceased to exist. She became an orphan.

This is from you, not from wdtfs.

Oh, and Sumin failed to seduce Sungji by using her sad story.

She successfully hugged Sungji. Without using that excuse, would she be able to hug Sungji?

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

ONLY ONE "as far as I can remember", with one of your katana comments XD

Haha. xD

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

and about sia ue, she killed one of my arguments before with cold blood! (it still hurts till now XD). she even used my own statement to kill it!!

Only one? I thought I had killed many. :'D

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Yes, I assure you sia ue read wdtfs the way it should be read.

kyaaaa, another compliment. :'D

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Basing from her comments since last year, I think she is reading WDTFS the way it should be read.

kyaaa, a compliment. I read from left to right, that's all. :'D

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Seju says to Sumin "Why are you acting so immature. So you're just going to give up on your life"

Sumin was acting immature, but she was not going to give up her life. Seju was overthinking right here.

Sumin replies " Are you saying my life is over if i don't go abroad"

How can one's life be over just because they don't go abroad? Sumin found this unreasonable. And of course, it was unreasonable. Seju should have worded it a bit better.

Also Sumin asked Seju if it was a right time to ask her about the ring? Of course not. Seju was making a mistake again right here.

Who was the one who couldn't think clearly? Are you sure it was Sumin who had a depression, not Seju?

imo, Sumin feeling depressed over her parents' death was not the kind of depression you and lzz have experienced. She well used her depression as an excuse to blame Seju for her parents' death. Also, later, she excellently used this depression of hers to seduce Sungji. If you guys' depressions can be used to accomplish things, then don't heal them, keep them with you forever since they sure are useful.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Too pretty to be true. How unlikable! xD

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

when sia ue gets her "short comments" game on, I enjoy this thread the most XDD

We need more of that from her more than ever since the latest chap had us all hanging. Something to lighten everybody in here. Hehehe

You guys just want to hear me scolding Darling. xD You guys should scold Seju too.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Does you thinking clearly about the future mean you have no depression?

I can't think clearly of the future.

To quote another person with Depression "Depression is the inability to construct or envision a future."

Seju said if they didn't study overseas then their lives would be over. Does this still not imply that Seju was unable to construct or envision the future?

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Does you thinking clearly about the future mean you have no depression?

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Insecurity and anger are not mutually exclusive.

Insecurity and depression are not mutually exclusive either. Same goes for anger and depression. No?

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

From what she told Sumin later on, it's clear to me she knew what she was doing. She said she did that out of insecurity because she felt like Sumin was ready to leave her any moment. She knows she made a mistake.

Which means she didn't cheat on Sumin out of an anger as you said.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Being in a depressed state is something else from having a depression. Sumin had a depression. Seju did not. She's on a very good way to end up having a depression now and I think Sungji is the only one who can see it.

Why are you so sure about that Seju wasn't having a depression back then? Wasn't her family issue alone quite enough to put her into depressions.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

btw, Sumin blaming Seju for her parents death wasn't out of her depression imo, it was out of her unreasonable stupidity beyond reality.

but Darling is still your favourite, kyaaaa XDD
admirable unconditional love

I don't wanna spoil her since that girl apparently can't be spoiled too much. :'D

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

Same for Seju. She cheated because she was depressed.

Um... No. That was anger. She's developing depression now.

She was angry when arguing with Sumin, but at the bar, she was being depressed. btw, Sumin blaming Seju for her parents death wasn't out of her depression imo, it was out of her unreasonable stupidity beyond reality.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

^She's lost both of her parents at once. She had every right to be depressed.

She had no right to blame Seju for her parents death.

I'm not saying she had right to do it. But people with depression do a lot of stupid stuff.
Seju had no right to cheat on Sumin because of that.
As I said - both ladies are to blame.

Same for Seju. She cheated because she was depressed.

Cveoz_lueaab1ln
joined Feb 5, 2016

^She's lost both of her parents at once. She had every right to be depressed.

She had no right to blame Seju for her parents death.