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Err, it sucks. RIP Ssamba.

Klice
Image Comments 07 Mar 11:44
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It's a trigger show, so they go the extreme but they do it well. It's pretty entertaining, if you can get past the unsubtle sexual subtext and pass the "I don't like fanservice cause I'm so smart", it's pretty cool.

It doesn't have a lot of good actions scenes yet, but the one big fight there was is pretty good. It can be a little cringey since it's supposed to be a coming of age story, though.

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This is, I think, the best chapter so far. The fear, the distress, I (almost) felt everything as she was, Koharu is downright frightening in serious mode; it also shown how much she respected Hana as an opponent, giving it her all. It's something I don't fully understand since I didn't have the chance to do a combat sport, but it's interesting to see two close people really hurting each other in respect.

I wonder if all those provocations the mma fighters are just for show (just like WWE) or if it's to put them in a certain state of mind. I don't think I'd have the right set of mind to really hit somebody I like.

@Hollows That's a problem when a fiction treats a subject that you know well. You start to see the shortcuts taken for the sake of the story, and the suspension of disbelief is hard to maintain. That said, I've seen this fight more as Koharu teaching Hana what it means to be hit rather than showing her tactics for the match; perhaps they did that afterwards or before. And your first paragraph actually shows how much Hana needed that lesson.

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Kodama Naoko hitting right on where the drama hurts, she didn't disappoint :3 Loving casual Mei x Yuzu, I love those anthology! I hope Sabu would have time to make those herself as well.

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I prefer a good story, where the sex comes as a confirmation of the characters' feelings, to brainless porn where it's the beginning and end of it.

Feelings? In my porn?!!.. I guess I dig it a bit more recently, but porn tend to be just that most of the time.

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I want a whole series of the playful couple in Virgins Empire... I feel like the extreme the author tries to reach is, almost, an admission of not being able to reach good tension. I know extreme works have their own appeals as well, so perhaps I'm reading it wrong.

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Amano-sensei is a blessing... <3

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Damn, I'm so weak to age-gap story... And the dude's a perfect bro, really sweet story!

I also appreciate the art very much, but I have the feelings I had seen it elsewhere already. If it's a kind of artstyle that seems to be spreading over new (relatively?) works, it's pretty cool!

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1 x ½ discussion 26 Feb 20:55
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Be it in this story or the other one, the author likes to make things go forwards. That's pretty nice!

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Citrus discussion 26 Feb 09:10
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[...] that there seemed to be many times where Mei had probably wanted to tell Yuzu the truth about how she felt, and about her marriage if only Yuzu had not disregarded what she had to say at times.

That's the problem when you're too considerate of somebody/have low self-confidence. Yuzu absolutely doesn't want to make Mei feel bad about anything, I guess given their history she had some reasons of wanting to avoid that.

At the first hint of trouble, Yuzu was always trying to defuse the situation by being comprehensive and kind, or just by goofying it out, and I do wonder if that discouraged Mei from saying anything bad to her. Either because she felt it would be okay since Yuzu is so comprehensive or she couldn't stand watch her step-sister being depressed after being her only sunshine; depending on her state of mind.

@ Yuri queen I guess I can see where you're coming from, even if I slightly disagree with how the first physical contact would be interpreted (before the end of vol2). My point being that Yuzu pushed for a relationship even when Mei was trying to distance herself.

There has been a lot of back and forth between the two, I guess I won't be able to agree with the fact that Mei was some kind of manipulative sadist without any consideration towards her step-sister; and that Yuzu was just a helpless victim.

But that's still going with the theory that Mei don't like herself very much, so what could be seen as a dick move on her part is, actually, a kind act for her. It all has to do with what the intentions are behind the acts.

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What does she see in this guy because no way is the dick that good

Perhaps it has to do with how he was in the past, like a teenage love that came true when he finally accepted to date and the marry her. That said, even Kaoru herself is struggling to tell what she finds in the guy when she's talking with her friends (with the probable mistress joining them afterwards). So there is something fishy in here.

I really hope that "dark secret" is worth it and will help make sense of a lot of stuff. I like the idea that was thrown in here that Kaoru is actually fond of Uta and unconsciously wanted to stay close to her via Reiichi, but that's a bit far-fetched.

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I'm still loving it, a bit too slow for a month paced manga, I wish I could wait 2-3 months to read 2-3 chapters at the same time, but otherwise I love it. Like, the pain I'm getting seeing things slowly playing out, it's like I'm experiencing Uta's slow agony of seeing her love interest every day without anything really going on.

I took a liking for the characters, I can wait the time it will take. I think a second reading when it's all over will be good.

Is the young girl done with the wife or does she still wanna fuck?

Judging that she used her fake smile once again, I think she still wanna love. I wonder if Kaoru will catch up on this one as well.

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Mochi au Tonberry is pretty cute.

Klice
Citrus discussion 23 Feb 15:15
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So? What's the problem with wanting spoilers?

You were asking people who read the story to make a summary for you while, at the same time, you were calling it shit and not worth reading. You're asking us to make the effort to digest the story for you while you're insulting it. That's the problem : why would we help you when you're literally saying that you don't like the story and it's not worth reading anyway? Why would you care in the first place?

Unless I misunderstood you, I'm really confused.

[...] it's that I'm starting to doubt it being worth caring for.

You'll have to read it if you want to know! Edit To give you an honest answer though, I'd suggest that you wait for the manga to finish. Depending on the number of volume left, it should be over in a year or two. Then, you can read the end and see if it's worth reading everything past vol6.


Yuzu was not a willing participant in being the side chick that Mei gets to play with before starting a real relationship with someone else.

She wasn't a sidekick, if anything, she was the instigator, the leader. Mei has always been reluctant and I can't blame her for giving in to the display of kindness and love Yuzu showed her.

See, if Mei was the one who started it, promising Yuzu all sorts of things to seduce her, knowing full well they couldn't keep it going in the long term, I would've agreed with everybody. But in this story, Mei is more passive than anything. She still promises lots of stuff to Yuzu but it's because she's too young and too in love with her to refuse her, to say to Yuzu "keep your hopes down, relationships aren't set in stone" (in the library in vol6); and that she didn't have the heart to break Yuzu's further : her step-sister just had an existential crisis and was really feeling down. The smile she does at the end of this chapter is like a complete opposite to her crying face in the last chapter.

Well, the only thing Mei can be accused of is to have been seduced by Yuzu, but who can blame her for that? Okay, okay, I'm pushing it. Still, it hurts, it wasn't a kind act at all, but I don't think she is a monster, just a confused selfish teenager who still wanted to indulge in the love of her step-sister, even if just a bit.

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Klice
Citrus discussion 23 Feb 13:57
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So what is the context of her involuntary mariage? Spoilertext please, I don't care to read anymore of this shitshow.

Genuinely wondering why you're interested if you don't like it/don't care to read it. The context is pretty obvious anyway, you can figure it out! Here's a hint : she's a rich heiress.

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Klice
Citrus discussion 23 Feb 09:24
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[...] but Harumin seems to be entirely out of the loop.

Well, as it was stated, after the outburst, I think everybody that was there became kinda aware that they were having a romantic relationship. On Harumin's case, I read here something interesting about her not really wanting to get into any troubles, so there is a possibility she suspects/knows from the very beginning (Yuzu has been reading incest story(porn?) right in front of her, after all). While rereading the chapter, I thought Nene and Harumin didn't have that sad look after observing Yuzu, but on p26 they do seem concerned, except it's not in a big focus compared to Matsuri, Himeko and Shirapon - on that note, the expression of Matsuri after seeing Yuzu smiling when she seems to be gone the moment before, aaah, it hurts.

How Yuzu reacted when she first read that letter, why isn't she doing anything and just crying and pretending to be fine etc.

I think she had to react really strongly for all her friends to be that concerned about her after months; if we assume the chapter is supposed to show a typical day, she must be depressed like that all the time. I admit I'd have liked to read it as well.

As to why she doesn't act, I guess she is just too kind and respects Mei's decision. She also had some self-confidence issues in the previous chapters, so perhaps she doesn't feel like she is worth destroying Mei's plan or something. It is pure speculation until we see a flashback or hear people talk about that period, of course, but the way she lives, the way she cries, it seems like she gave up right away.

I was surprised everyone was so offended with this chapter [...].

If you place yourself in Yuzu's shoes and want them to be happy, it was a pretty upsetting chapters. I think it was just emotions talking (or genuine dislike of the story).

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Etto... It is.

Didn't catch that, nice!

Klice
Citrus discussion 22 Feb 19:21
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She played with someone for her own self satisfaction when she knew the entire time what was going to happen.

She didn't play with her and certainly not for her own satisfaction only, Yuzu was a willing participant in this. She just had a brief relationship with somebody and it didn't last, it happens, it's sad but that doesn't make her an horrible person. In Yuzu's perspective, perhaps but even her can't hold it against Mei, probably.

And if you tell me "but if she knew it would end, why go along with it?", well, if you don't anything for the pretext that it's going to end, you won't do much, right? She could have been honest about the whole thing, but nobody's completely honest and especially not when strong feelings are involved. If it weren't a romance story, no one would expect the relationship to go on forever, it just ended a bit quickly.

Well, the reason I have some sympathy toward Mei (instead of just not hating her) is that she is probably hating herself at the same time; of course, from an exterior pov, that doesn't change the "betrayal" but it gives her extenuating circumstances in my judgement of her being a complete human scum.

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xxx discussion 22 Feb 19:17
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Sadly I think they're all sold out, if I go from the author's twitter account. I'm not sure this is something that will be sold as used goods, but good luck!

I remember I was anxious to get it because the pre- purchases were opened when I was in vacation and the number of copies was limited. So I harassed my friend to do everything for me, but some of my friends had an ipad and I did it in time. I think it went out of stock during last December :(

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Citrus discussion 22 Feb 12:26
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The time skip was stupid though, but for that SU is to blame not Mei.

As I mentioned in another post, I think the use of the time skip was pretty smart (even if it's an easy narrative tool). The betrayal the audience felt with it is akin to the betrayal Yuzu might have felt when she read the letter (which was an easy break-up tool). It's a bit meta, but it makes the intent of the author even more powerful and bring the audience closer to Yuzu's suffering.

Also, every relationship is supposed to end at some point, and I guess many are saying stuff like "we will be together forever", etc. at the beginning, because that's how they feel at this moment. So I wouldn't really hold it against Mei in the grand scheme of thing, if it weren't a romance story. Even in the context of the story, she's damaged so she isn't irredeemable.

She was kind of living in the present, not thinking about the future, like Yuzu.

I agree, I think Mei was just indulging herself in Yuzu's love because, well, it was hard not to. She was selfish on this one, because she wanted to be happy for a brief moment.

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Hana in her PJs is like the cutest thing ever and I think it deserved an additional post to say it.

Klice
Citrus discussion 22 Feb 07:43
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Why so hate? Because she didn't turn out like her f**ktard father and is actually a responsible human being?

What Silfay said, I'll just add that we are, as readers, supposed to feel what the MC (Yuzu) is feeling. What she is feeling is betrayal from the one she loves(d?) the most, it hurt. Since not everybody is as strong as Yuzu, they end up hating the one who hurt Yuzu (them by proxy?) : Mei.

Some people wanted Yuzu to find somebody else. I dread the prospect of seeing another love triangle, but this time with somebody who seduces Yuzu and make her forget Mei...

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“Should we watch it?” as manager-san’s first reaction to finding a porn DVD in her stuff has me on the floor

Also Actor-san which is gradually accepting every step toward a true relationship with Manager-chan without batting an eye; as if her unconscious desire were spilling out without her realising, or occasionally. It's pretty cute how it's happening (well tsundere are cute...).

Oh yeah, saw that tweet https://twitter.com/yuri_navi/status/966289903007838208 on the author's twitter. I'm really, really curious about this. I mean, I wish it was a thing.

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Gunjo discussion 21 Feb 21:52
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This is pretty good. I had a hard time accustomating myself with the art style, but it grew on me. Real drama, real tragedy, I don't see any happy ending coming but I kind of want them to have it anyway... Thank you for the translation!