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Right! That was great. First it was Rika that helped Ren find something worth living for and then it was Ren's turn to give the same support to Rika when she was at her lowest point. That was indeed very beautiful scene! Also that line that they become megucas to find each other. I'd disagree with it not progressing, especially since I feel like that line is as close as we're going to get to officially confirming them. Outside of duo unit. I don't know what the christmas story is about, but I bet it's gay.
There's also Ren's event which also shows Rika's and Ren's relationship.
@Sakura Cartelet I know. I read it xD I just am not sure what you were trying to say by mentioning it. Also I don't really think telling backstories are spoilers. And we spoiled half of the main story from the game already.
Mods shouldn't get mad until we actually start insulting each other etc. Since we keep it civil, it should be fine, then again walls of text aren't really place in comments, but from experience I know it only happened because it's here. If we try taking it somewhere else, the discussion will die immediately.
last edited at Apr 19, 2020 3:16PM
@Lilliwyt I'm messing with you. I agree it can still be friendship, but it also is very easily shipable and the experience they had could easily lead to romantic feelings. If they were boy and girl instead of 2 girls, I bet everyone would say they dated and nobody would ever question it (man, I really hate that double standard). Especially considering the kind of live megucas live leads to them bonding more strong with other megucas over their shared experience/fate, Yachiyo and Mifuyu could easily develop feelings for each other, even if they'd never acknowledge them and just treat them as a matter of fact/thought it was still just friendship, but as you said, technically, nothing is confirmed.
@Sakura Cartelet Yes Rika and yes I know her whole deal. Ren was my favorite girl when I first started playing and I rolled her banner and I ship her hard with Rika and lucky for me game pretty much made her and Ren canon so. Also I'm not sure what you tried to imply with spoiler portion.
Fine, Mifuyu and Yachiyo could be just friends, but since game already pretty much turned Mikazuki Villa into whole happy family with parents, children and aunty, we're just having fun with it. Sure Yachiyo and Mifuyu are only a childhood friends, who spend 7 years together fighting witches, then separate because of different opinions and later when Mifuyu disappeared, Yachiyo dropped everything and spend rest of time looking for her and when she thought she finally found he, but she turned out to be fake, she almost turned into witch from shock. I guess instead of girlfriends that broke up, they are only very close friends.
@Lilliwyt
It's not headcanon. It's canon. If you didn't play game, you have no idea. That's how game portray their relationship. And Madoka frenchiase was always gay with MadoHomu, but Magia Record has a canon lesbian character who wished for her crush to love her back, so it's not like they'd never go there. As I said, IroYachi is pretty much canon, without ever confirming it, but you'd need to be blind to deny it.
last edited at Apr 19, 2020 2:14PM
Oh no, I think Mifuyu 100% meant it. After Yachiyo decided to break up team because she was afraid her wish was killing everyone and she distanced herself from everyone, including Mifuyu, Mifuyu was devastated. That's why she says that it was Yachiyo who abandoned her, not the other way around. She went to invite everyone to the lecture, but when she saw that Yachiyo pretty much went back to living and behaving the way she used to before, she got pissed, because it meant Yachiyo disbanding their team and cutting ties with her was completely pointless. She was 100% jelly of Iroha in that scene and wanted to gloat how close she is with Yachiyo.
Yea, I can see Momoko like that, especially since Yachiyo used to take care of her and Momoko looked up to her. Then again, it feels like rebellious phase to us, but she did have good reason to be angry at Yachiyo, so I'd feel like she's more of a old friend Yachiyo had falling off with, but later reconciled?
With Tsuruno it's entirely based on just how game presents it. She's constantly dropping by, keeps in touch with family and acts kinda like aunt to Felicia and Sana, but isn't too far apart in age. So Yachiyo's little sister who constantly clings to her. Like with Momoko you could also go with old friend, but in her case they had falling off, but she never kept grudge against Yachiyo, so when they meet again, she went back to behaving like always.
For Yachiyo and Mifuyu, they're exes, but they drifted too far apart to ever get back together. Yachiyo of course still cares about Mifuyu, but now she has new gf to focus on.
last edited at Apr 23, 2020 1:03PM
Shirou and Archer are selfcest, because Shirou is literally Archer's younger self. They're from different eras. If events of grail war didn't happen, Shirou was going to eventually become Archer. Meanwhile you can't say the same about Illya and Kuro. They have 2 different personalities and depending who would be the one to live the life, they'd grow up to be different people. They might share the same genetics, but are not the same person. Just like normal real life twins. Unless you're implying our personalities don't matter and twins are the same person.
Honestly the whole my different version/timeline etc. is ultra confusing and not something we really have to deal with irl, but I feel like Kuro and Illya are a pretty clear cut example of twins.
Well to be fair. Amane sisters got screwed up over by everyone else and they made a wish after realizing they can only rely on each other, so they were already incredible close. Add to that the fact they they did not grow up together (studies shows we do like our partner to resemble as a bit, so family living separate and meeting later do often fall for each other, then again they're twins and we don't like too close resemblance, but I digress) only helps in them creating even stronger bond between each other. Whatever that bond evolved into love you could argue, but they're definitely inseparable soulmates. Even their Dopples show they complete each other. They're 2 halves of 1 bubble that together create a whole.
As for IroYachi, entire game is just full of their interactions and in later chapters they pretty much act like married couple taking care of the house/family, so I can't really see them other way. Sana and Felicia are their children and Tsuruno is Yachiyo's little sister dropping by every now and then. I honestly think them and MadoHomu is as canon as you can get. Subtext Canon ? And even for MadoHomu I'm not so sure if it isn't just canon. In third movie they specifically said the reason Homura was able to pull Madoka back to earth was because she felt so much love. If that's not explicit, I'm not sure what is. Iroha pretty much already proposed to Yachiyo, saying she'll spend rest of her live together with her.
I made entire rant in anime thread, but here is relevant part
last edited at Apr 19, 2020 7:56AM
"Their bodies and mind"
Except their mind's are nothing alike. That's the whole issue. If Kuro was just Illya clone with exact same personality then I'd get how it's selfcest (even if the moment she has been cloned they personalities would start to diverge every so slightly, by different experiences), but every since Kuro came to exist, she behaved completely different to Illya, had different personality, goals, reactions. So even if they have the same body, they're 2 different people. Hence more twincest than selfcest (technically they're not sisters, but I bet biologically their bodies probably are exactly the same).
@Sakura Cartelet
Mysterious Heroine X (Alter) and Mysterious Heroine X is another whole can of worms I don't even want to go into.
Fair, but IroYachi has such great chemistry I just can't see them not together. They're pretty much canon in game.
I was wondering too, but she has different personality and because Illya grow up without those memories and Kuro did (as much as you can call it growing up) I guess they more qualify as sisters now than same person.
@EvelineClariss
Pretty much. Man, I'm still mad at how anime fucked up.
