So it wasn't just a fling and an incredibly fast shotgun marriage, It was actually a relationship that started in Uni.

As we've all suspected, she pushed him back. Going as far as throwing objects at him. Still, I feel like he's a bit dumb for saying "I don't know what changed" when he already knew of the miscarriage. I understand that someone that was all love-love now becomes this person full of hate and anger can be startling, but come on man. Could of dropped a call to a doctor or researched online "Why is my girlfriend acting this way?".

I understand why she feels like shit though. She continued working while pregnant ( over here in the west women do that almost till birth, or if there's health complication ) but in Japan you'll almost never see a women with any semblance of baby bump working. They all quit, temporarily or permanently, when they get pregnant as to "safe-guard" the live that's inside them. She must feel like it is all her fault and that phone call with her mother must of been "you whore bitch, that's what you get, etc..." Which probably didn't help.

She says it herself near the end before meeting her current roommate, "I haven't changed".

Also, the "But did I really consider that... just now" probably means she considered train suicide ( which is a common and pretty successful way of committing suicide ).

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When I first read the RAWs for this chapter (read as in "looked at the pretty pictures") I thought Mei was badass and that Matsuri was just an annoying bitch but reading the translation I have to say that I agree with Matsuri to some extent. Until now Mei has been using Yuzu for her own comfort and didn't give a damn about her feelings. Hopefully that'll change in the next chapters and Mei starts fighting for Yuzu's love.

I think we can definitely say that Mei realizes she's legitimately attracted to Yuzu, both physically and emotionally. But the thing is...

For Mei, sexuality is a tool. It's a useful means of getting what she wants. She went along with the male teacher in order to protect the school. She repeatedly uses sexual gestures toward Yuzu as a way of getting her to do what Mei wants, whether kissing her to keep her quiet or attempting to seduce her to ensure she remains a source of comfort. And the same thing just happened again. Faced off against Matsuri, Mei uses her sexuality as a bludgeon to send a message to Matsuri about what belongs to her.

So even though Mei is truly attracted to Yuzu, with one exception she's only been able to employ it as a kind of bargaining chip for Yuzu's attention. The exception is the kiss at the end of chapter 8. There was no artifice or planning behind what happened there, it was spontaneous, on both sides. Mei was overtaken by genuine desire, and you see her own reaction to it. She's startled.

I don't know how she ended up like this - maybe it was the affair with the teacher, or maybe something earlier - but that's how Mei sees sexuality right now, as a means to an end. Hopefully Yuzu can help her back toward a healthier and more fulfilling sexuality. I have confidence in her.

Thanks as always for the hard work, Yuri Project.

All that is in this post is very true.

I also think part of it stems from her lack of parental affections. Both parents are absent, and gramps... is not really the kind of person I'd go for heart to heart discussions. Kids who lack parental affections often seek it from their peers.

But in her case, she's deeply hurt but is also intelligent enough that she could get hurt in relationships again. So she maintains a certain wall even amongst those who she possibly shared sexual / amorous encounters. You know what they say... opening your heart to someone means they can crush it at any time.

Also, stepping back a bit, does anybody find it hilarious how this series' audience (on Dynasty, at least) are all just reading this stretching manga in the hope that there will be yuri?

Man it's dynasty, if it's a series is not tagged het from the beginning, everyone is going to hope for yuri stuff to happen.

But it's not only in dynasty considering that the artist previously did another Yuri work and the 2 main characters almost exclusively interact with only each other, there's bound to be people wanting the yuri end.

As for myself, I don't really read it for the yuri. The sex of the two protags isn't really that much of a big deal with me. What I really enjoy is the cohabitation. Comfy SoL cohabitation is always something I enjoy. There's more drama than I would like in my SoL but it's not like I haven't seen worse. I mean we're on the internet over here...

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Cause teenagers usually have sex for well thought out reasons.

At least they used protection. Which makes me wonder how (if at all) she got pregnant, I'm assuming this was the start of some pretty self destructive behavior from her.

Well we did see a glimpse of her attitude / actions during high school. She acted like a lot of teenagers who don't have enough affection from parents, they seek it from their peers. She probably kept this up for some time.

At the same time, her fiancé is quite recent. It's possible she wasn't that "hardcore" anymore. Since she's a working adult and all. Still it was a shotgun marriage, so... it remains to be seen if she changed from her younger days. It could of been a fluke, or she was still the same way after all this time.

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fuuu-

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I don't get how so many people were baited by Love Lab.

There is no trolling though, their relationship was that of friendship.

the het end really forced though. sudden development in the last 10 chapter......

While it was "sudden" our protagonist had feelings for the guy and just did not try to act on it much.

This is sort of the norm for battle shonens, there is no relationship development until the very end. There might be a kiss at the end, with a time-skip showing kids + married but that's really how it usually goes.

I think it's because the authors feel they suck at inserting romance in a manga where it's not the main focus. Or perhaps they don't want to lose those easy extra chapter teases they insert in tanks.

So yeah, it was sudden development. But it was a long time coming.

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you sure you want to know? it's a real great read though. so I advise you to read it all! it's worth it. to get the feels, you may want to start by watching the anime first then read all the manga!!. anyway, since you asked for it, basically, Ichiko Sakura, the super lucky human, ended up with her cough cough boyfriend cough cough in the end. while Momiji, the goddess of poverty whom i WORSHIP, ended up to her usual gig as a binbougami ALONE, saying bullshit like it's better that way. so much feels. i just. can't. really explain. how the f*ck the author trolled with us. how could they never ended up together. that i do not understand. Momiji and Ichiko have that great chemistry between them. i just. ughhh.
you may want to check the doujins on this site. err more like images. xp

There is no trolling though, their relationship was that of friendship.

So a yuri resolution doesn't only make sense from a fan's point of view, it seems the right choice from how the story has gone so far.

Well it make sense, in the sense ( weeeee ) that they have no serious relationship outside of each other. We've seen like 2-3 characters outside of them and they were featured in one chapter.

We'll just have to find out as we read along I guess.

About the kid, that's totally normal, Keiko is definitively more impactful in his life then a child that never came. Men don't bond the same way because they don't carry the children. The bond between father and child is something that happens after birth.

The loss of the baby is definitely less important to him than the lost of his girlfriend / ex-fiance.

ok, so I am not trying to be a jerk, and for sure the bonding of mother-child is definitely more intense than the bonding of a father-child before birth. that being said...

I am going to go on record here for the sake of all considerate/sensitive men everywhere and say that we do care!!! if my partner were to get pregnant that child's life would be just as, if not more important to me than the relationship (not the life of my partner, but the relationship) I would have with my partner. and if my partner were to miscarry, i would 1) be super worried about my partner's mental and physical health, BUT 2) i would also be upset that our child was lost (and its no one's fault, i would definitely not blame my partner, and i would try to be as considerate as possible in how we as a couple dealt with the miscarriage. i am just saying that it would not be something that i would relegate to the realm of "out of sight, out of mind")

once again, i just wanted to clear that up, at least for myself because i don't think that way (meaning what Evilnemesis said or how the guy in ch21 was acting). other than that i agree +/ follow most of the speculation/ideas that Evilnemesis put forward. so try not to get mad, just try to understand my viewpoint :P

Not a jerk at all, it's hard to understand exactly what someone is saying online. I'm not saying men are not able to understand, just the bond is stronger ( if I were saying that, I'd be saying that I can't either ).

There's still the possibility that he did not know she lost the baby before they went separate ways. Because he clearly said something like "I don't understand what happened and / or changed".

You'd have to be quite the dimwit to not understand why suddenly a woman would feel this way after such an experience.

I was actually quite shocked at first and that's why I theorized that it's possible he wasn't aware at the time of the break-up because someone can't be so insensitive ( in my mind ). Although, people have shown me otherwise in the past.

This could also be the typical Japanese salary man not understanding anything else aside work, work... and work.

But I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt until proven otherwise.

Also, for those that think they're going to hook back up, are you nuts? There's just too much pain associated with that relatively quick ( shotgun marriage ) relationship. This might not be a yuri end, but there's no chance in hell that this relationship rekindle.

I must say, I am surprised at seeing this over 1000 now.

Other than that... Haven't seen much things from this author so I'm kind of sad now.
I need more angst and pervertedness and feels and cute reactions... kissing also.

I'm not surprised this has a lot of comments. This is pretty much your cookie cutter shoujo with two girls instead.

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I guess we might know more in the next chapter during his drunken talk. I guess Ran is going to make him drink a lot more. Spill it all, buddy!

I doubt the next chapter will be more of this dude. In fact, I predict the next two will have little to do with it beyond Ran glancing at Keiko a lot.

Probably. Also going to bet this ends with Keiko getting back together with the guy.

I don't think so, I'm a bit baffled at how this is going to end honestly... This might have a non conclusive ending.

While it's true that this author did yuri, this runs in web Josei publication.

But if this doesn't have a yuri end... you'd think that potential love interest for either of those two would come around much sooner. Yet nothing of the sort came about. Maybe the author plans to have this run for quite some time?

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Wow ... suddenly, the hypothesis about the abortion is ceasing to be a hypothesis ...

Oh wow. This is the first time what I thought was an outlandish hypothesis has actually become truth. What the heck. Seriously thought it was too farfetched and you guys were all looking too deep between the lines. Wow.

Seriously? Maaaaaan. This is getting really really interesting!

And I'm confused. He seems to not be able to get over Keiko, but he's talking as if the whole unplanned pregnancy ordeal was just like, so brief and not-of-importance. Dude. What about your own child? That was yours, no?

It wasn't so outlandish after seeing her 2 times crying, the stomach, the dream, the "can't forgive my mother" talk.

About the kid, that's totally normal, Keiko is definitively more impactful in his life then a child that never came. Men don't bond the same way because they don't carry the children. The bond between father and child is something that happens after birth.

The lost of the baby is definitely less important to him than the lost of his girlfriend / ex-fiance.

Another thing, he doesn't understand why she changed this way, did he not know she lost the baby before they separated?

It was opposite isn't it? I thought it was Ran who moved into Keiko's place

I don't remember the exact circumstances, but the fact they got together meant she either looked for another place or needed another roomate to cut the cost of rent, implying her ordeal was recent.

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To be honest, the guy seems to be a decent man himself. Can't be compared with Ran, of course. But

Shotgun wedding...So Keiko's miscarriage has just happened that recent? I thought it was more like early college

The reason why she was in Ran's place is because she had to find a new place to live, it had to be recent.

And yeah, he looks plenty decent. At first with the "dream" sequence where the boy says "You can't even do that right" I thought he took the opportunity to dumb her because of the miscarriage.

But now it looks like it's strictly the mother who's been a mega jerk ( hinted because she can't forgive her still ).Most likely she said to her daughter horrible things like, you're a whore and other similar things.

The guy seems clueless to the fact that she had lost the child, this is a bit weird though. Even if it was a shotgun marriage, these things take time and clearly some time would of passed so he'd maybe notice she wouldn't gain weight. Although weight gain and all is highly dependent on the individual.

It looks like at first, she agreed to this thing maybe because she thought she was ready for a more serious relationship ( she did casually sleep around in the past ).

Looks like the baby issue and not saying anything + the mother being an asshole made Keiko sort of closed herself off emotionally.

He probably tried to act in kindness for some time but it looks like after some time trying and her not responding he had enough. She might of even lashed out at him.
I don't think I can blame him, a relationship has to be communication between two people, if one of them isn't for whatever reason, then it can't work.

I guess we might know more in the next chapter during his drunken talk. I guess Ran is going to make him drink a lot more. Spill it all, buddy!

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Everyone is sympathising with Chimi, but no one is sympathising with Eri? I don't think she has a choice either.

idk maybe because Eri looks so damn happy. rather than sympathize i end up with hating her.

don't have choice? bs.
just kill your parents.

Dat edge.

Everyone is sympathising with Chimi, but no one is sympathising with Eri? I don't think she has a choice either.

I'm sure everyone would sympathize with her situation, her parents would never approve of her choice of partner. This thing is quite common, but it's just that over here a lot of us will stand ground versus our parents and just wait till things naturally turn for the better.

Still, the way she blushed while she and her fiancé were "flirting" let's us know that she at least enjoys being around him to some extent. So although their relationship is over between the two girls, there's a strong possibility that she isn't in some relationship that she will feel miserable in, at least that's what I hope.

For that I am glad, if this was a Yuri from the 70s, 80s, and 90s the guy would be the most vile of men and would rape his "fiancé and / or wife" and call her all sort of filthy names. Yuri back in the days used to vilify men with such drama and passion.

Straight up porn.
Where is the love? :(

This is yuri as made by a guy who cares more about the fanservice aspect, there is no love here.

The purest form of love is in this work.

It's the love for fap material.

I think that reflects on how people are in general. The thing with being able to have complex thoughts mean that a lot of times people tend to over analyze and make things that are actually quite simple into something quite complicated. That is especially true in amorous relationships.

I agree that humans are notorious for complicating everything given the opportunity, but I wouldn't say we as humans over analyze complex thoughts on purpose (that's more a by-product than actual output). humans have a very hard time grasping complex ideas and are compelled to break them down into tiny bite-sized, easily digestible pieces. unfortunately, the more we try to simplify the idea, the more convoluted we can make it.

that being said, I'm a bit baffled at Tomo's reluctance to graduate. I'm sure this was touched on in chapter 2, but I would think that graduating would give her more freedom to move away from her father's business, not less. is her (Tomo's) reluctance cultural (shirking her sense of duty to the family and being openly defiant to her father) or character related (additional character development/a plot device added by Amano-san)? ummm, given some of the author's notes, I "think" I know the answer, but I'd like some other thoughts.

btw, talk about exemplifying the paragraphs above...

Actually it's the other way around.

Well, he can't hire her if she has no qualification. So by not graduating she's dodging the issue, or delaying the "inevitable".

Not sure why she doesn't tell him to go fuck himself. I mean, cultural difference aside, it's not like she actually has to go work for him.

And yes your thoughts are pretty much a straight up example =P !

I just love all her works, very deep yet not, complicated yet not~

I think that reflects on how people are in general. The thing with being able to have complex thoughts mean that a lot of times people tend to over analyze and make things that are actually quite simple into something quite complicated. That is especially true in amorous relationships.

I wonder if Tomo is frightened about whether she is like her father and is one of the reasons she keeps Ai at arms length. And you know the whole sleeping with her step mother might have helped as well.

Yeah, I get the feeling it's more about that than the lingering feelings for the step-mom.

Calling it now. It just feels like Amano's style to not waste a foxy lady. That step-mom has most likely been with Tomo, no mark my words - she and Tomo have most definitely done things. (I'd be ok with that.)

And the thing we always knew arrived, that affair.

Lol the dad is one chill guy. Picks her cause she's a meek and hot woman, he daughter tells her she's lonely and she might cheat on him. "It's okay, it's something to be expected". Not a single fuck given.

As for our MC's train of thought in the first part, oh boy dem depressive thoughts right there.

Ahegao the Manga.

I bet this manga going to beat Naruto in longest publishing time :D

Naruto? That thing is 10 years younger than Jojo

Hajime no Ippo says "I know how you feel, bro."

Don't forget about the manliest of all men, Duke Togo.

I think Ryotsu Kankichi is the oldest of all.

He is but considering how much much of a loser he is, didn't want to mention him alongside Ippo.

Flustered delinquent girls are the best, that is all.

I bet this manga going to beat Naruto in longest publishing time :D

Naruto? That thing is 10 years younger than Jojo

Hajime no Ippo says "I know how you feel, bro."

Don't forget about the manliest of all men, Duke Togo.

They hate it because it sucks. And with good reasons, the author doesn't care for his story anymore. And it's been like this for a long time. He wanted to finish Naruto a lot quicker than the incoming ending.
But... Jump editors too strong, they will never let an author just end his series, must milk it dry...

The one shot he did a while back is actually the first work he wanted to make as a series but Jump liked Naruto better.

About the Disney analogy... The thing is everyone knows how it's going to end ( couple getting together in Citrus' case and happy endings in Disney movies ).

What actually matters is the journey, the execution going from point A to B. And there's nothing really innovative going on here.

Personally I've only read this to marvel at the art. I really, really like the thick lines.

It all comes down to preference. I am perfectly fine with the ways things going and will keep on reading; a lot of people agreeing with me (according the the view counts). Who in their right minds would read something they hate unless they have a masochist tendency or just a big fat troll.

People read/watch because the story is enjoyable and exciting to them. Many things could still happen and you have no idea how Mei will act. Plus, a happy ending is never guarantee. The author might pull a "Game of Thrones" endings and kill everyone...
My point is that Citrus is fun to read and since it has so many fans, haters will automatically gather and lecture everyone how much this story sucks and then rages for the lack of yuri/shoujo-ai story.

I don't think masochist tendency is the right term here.

I think it's really by force of habit. Humans are fond of that.

In Citrus' case it doesn't really apply because it's pretty short in length. But people still read Naruto and other works because they've liked the work until X chapter and will see it to the end. Years ago when I wasn't a working adult, I would almost never drop a book I decided to read ( after a few page test ). There's just something about committing to a story and not seeing it through that irks me and I'm certain I'm not the only one.

Now of course I don't have all that leisurely time on my hand so I'm a bit more selective when it comes to my time.

It's really similar to how a couple will stay together even though it really looks like they should part ways( obviously in this case there's a lot more factor than a fictional story you don't enjoy anymore ).

I don't understand why there are so many haters in this manga. Though the more popular the manga is , there more haters it gets and they are always very vocal. Just like Naruto, lots like it and yet lots despise it.

I seriously love this manga. The plot is cliche but still exciting. It's like Disney movies; all end with happy endings but people still watch and enjoy it. Thank you for scanlating! Please never stop.

Plus Harumi must have some bad feelings about Matsuri. She was giving her suspicious look.

They hate it because it sucks. And with good reasons, the author doesn't care for his story anymore. And it's been like this for a long time. He wanted to finish Naruto a lot quicker than the incoming ending.
But... Jump editors too strong, they will never let an author just end his series, must milk it dry...

The one shot he did a while back is actually the first work he wanted to make as a series but Jump liked Naruto better.

About the Disney analogy... The thing is everyone knows how it's going to end ( couple getting together in Citrus' case and happy endings in Disney movies ).

What actually matters is the journey, the execution going from point A to B. And there's nothing really innovative going on here.

Personally I've only read this to marvel at the art. I really, really like the thick lines.