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So, I watched Fragtime movie and I have to say... it was a huge disappointment. For how short manga is you'd think they would have no issue fitting all the material into movie, yet the movie is only 1 hour short and still manages to cut some stuff out. I dislike changes on principal, but I'm not necessary against them by default, but I have to say, movie really didn't do source material justice. It felt really rushed and girls have no chemistry whatsoever and for some unyurily reason they cut out most of the moments that actually showed their personalities and relationship. But even all that wouldn't be as bad if not for the fact, they changed the 1 scene that I loved in manga the most. The fact that final confrontation was in public with all classmate present was what really made it stand out to me, because that's so rare in yuri manga, also the fact that Murakami's friend actually was a good person and called her on her bs as well. Movie just make it a private scene between them without any audience, which made it much weaker.
Weren't this already uploaded and then removed? Why it was removed in the first place if it's uploaded again?
It was "shun", in hiragana.
Thanks. I can see why it was a problem. Normally it would mean like feeling down or sudden lose of mood or something like that, but it doesn't really fit into context, so I'd think it's supposed to be something like "kyun". You know, sudden throb in chest from cuteness overload. It thought I might be able to help you, but sadly I can't find anything else either.
I lost interest in Inuyasha a while back. Never finished it.
Same. Used to read it and it was pretty nice, but at some point it just dragged way too much and it got really repetitive. Find big bad. Big bad almost loses. Big bad has cheat ability so they're not able to kill him off for good. Big bad runs away. Rinse and repeat. I lost patient to following it.
Idk. I just knew it existed along with trans defense. How effective it was or how often it was used, I have no idea. I mostly ranted how stupid and counterproductive censorship is in general anyway. Honestly until that topic poped up I totally forgot this defense existed, so thanks for reminding me I guess.
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he/she(because it wasn't specified).
Are you serious? How the hell you missed the fact that entire manga is about how Mogu doesn't identify as either gender?
Are we going to give more words power over us? I'd understand if it was still legit legal defense and most countries didn't try to remove it/removed it, but when it's clearly being delegitimize all over the world? The best way to make this phrase stop mean anything and become harmless is to keep using it in such silly manner. I'm honestly tired of people policing language, as if single words had much so much power over us. They have exactly as much power as we give them and by refusing to use them and asking other people to not use them, you're only make them more powerful and legitimize their meaning as a insult.
As someone else already pointed out, it was probably a cheek kiss, but it might have been a poorly drawn kiss on the lips as well.
Seriously. Yuri is niche as it is. It's sad instead of celebrating all forms of it we can find, we're fighting instead whatever it's yuri in the first place.
It's a shame they're currently JP only as far as I know.
First two are available in NA though.
Oh they are? o: I've never seen them before. Are they available only through gacha or were they event memoria?
First is a reward from missions during first christmas event and second was in limited gacha along with Holy Alina during second christmas, so you should be able to drop it during future Holy Alina's banners.
more ship-teasing subtext that clearly needs to become text
Implying it's not text already.
As much as I ship all of them and would fight to the death if someone were to say my OTPs don't exist, the writers have never explicitly showed/confirmed that any of them hold romantic feelings for the other. And that's how you get a multitude of ships and/or the possibility of them all being gal pals.
I mean, to me IroYachi is pretty much Canon Subtext category, the same how MadoHomu is and honestly, they are pretty much confirmed during Rebellion. Also you forgot about Rika and Yu x Kei seems to be pretty obvious, but I mean, if RikaRen and IroYachi dual units are not suggestive enough, I can't really argue with you. I get that most people don't consider subtext text, but at some point subtext become so blatant it can only be seen as a actual text.
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It's a shame they're currently JP only as far as I know.
First two are available in NA though.
more ship-teasing subtext that clearly needs to become text
Implying it's not text already.
I'm currently on my road to maxing every meguca I own, because I have nothing better to do with all the mats I have, cos I finished maxing everyone I could ever care about ages ago. Just hit magia lvl 5 with my Homura (and would be faster if I bothered to keep playing new story quests and story challenge quests when we got half ap, because they give a lot of episode points, but spending ap with them was a huge pain) so to me, outside of 4 star meguca, those sets are a waste of gems.
To an anime-and-doujins-only follower of MagiReco like me, Warmth of Your Hand sounds very yuri and extremely lewd.
Well, it is.
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I think I've made around 200k QP in this event. Level 10'd a bunch of skills already. Decent mat drops too.
I farmed like 500m. (I'm sure you meant m)
Nero and Nezha had a friendly duel
Just Umu things
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I'd really love to read more stories with a positive representation of BDSM. Most stories on that theme either ignore any aspects of a relationship outside sex, or depict very unhealthy relationships (famous example being 50 shades of whatever). It's frustratingly hard to find a story that explores healthy aspects of D/s relationships, such as trust building, aftercare, respect for safe words, et cetera.
It doesn't have to be manga (I love novels and webcomics, as well). If anyone knows of a yuri/gl story like that, I would be very thankful.
This seems to be going exactly what you want (it didn't progress far enough yet to tell).
https://dynasty-scans.com/images/15411
So I just saw this image come up and had a thought. Any good yuri stories about two girls who at first are both after the same person but end up liking each other?
It Would Be Great if You Didn't Exist (official title translated as Wish You Were Gone), though from what I remember finding a good quality traslation over entire series was a bit of a hassle. It's exactly what you're looking for. MC catches her boyfriend cheating on her with other girl and they both fall for each other.
It was actually a sfx that did not have a translation
Out of curiosity what it was? Screen would be best, but just typing it should work too.
I wonder what does the title mean...
"If you leave on time" kinda... I'll ask Ochan who is much better than me in japanese
I mentioned it on first page of the thread. "If we can finish on regular time" referring to not having to stay for overhours, which is the premise of the series. If they finish on normal time, they can meet after work.
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Since the question was why it keeps happening in mangas, I was talking about them in general, not just this series, but in that case that leaves "insane asian standards of what normal, thin and chubby/fat looks like".
it is something I grown to appreciate Disney for in the most backwards way possible, they are so blatantly weasily about adding secondary LGBT characters who can be easily edited out for Chinese markets, that it makes it easy to get my point across.
Oh yea. I noticed that too and it really pisses me off. Like they're officially so for LGBT representation and all that, but all their movies carefully avoid adding any major LGBT characters and the ones that are there, are easily removable. Same thing with Youtube and encouraging LGBT creators to us it, while demonetizing/hiding their content (and lying that they don't do it), because rest of the world don't like them and they want to appeal to other countries to use site as well.
Speaking of event, I'm not sure if I'm missing something, but I really hate Shizuku as a character (I read her side story). Also that's the issue with brainwashing. How I'm supposed to take seriously anything that happens to her and all the interactions she has right now, when I have no idea how much is influenced by it? I assume all it did was making her think Wings of the Magius is place she belongs, but I'm only assuming that...
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@Nevri Yuri a niche within a Niche? From what I've seen yuri and (to a lesser degree?) yaoi are nowhere near as niche as they were in the past. Game developers such as Nintendo's recent Fire Emblem: Three Houses has included LGBT options (Yuri, Edelgard, Dorothea, Mercedes, Sothis, and Rhea) and the in development Story of Seasons game is supposed to have gay options. Non video game media also seems to be more willing to put (subtle) gay characters in them.
Oh it definitely got better in recent years. I'm not denying it. But still it's rather a exception than rule. Some companies are just more LGBT friendly than others, so I wouldn't really see it as a rising trend. Not yet anyway.
(I read it all it was amazing)
Thanks! I put all my heart into it x3
I would really love to talk to you about that whole paragraph, but we can't just fill this thread can we XD. Does Dynasty have some kind of private messaging system?
Sadly it doesn't. It has IRC and Discord server, but I think it's fine to talk about it here. It's kinda the place for it + there are thread for series that have way longer discussions by few same people and some thread are for series that aren't even hosted on dynasty so.
And don't get me started on how fabulous Homura's character is, she never was a good person from the start, not a villain either exactly but like she would leave Sayaka to die (and so would I XD) and all the others to save Madoka. Alina and Homura (at the end of all her time loops) aren't all that different, they just don't express their feelings in the same way but at the core, they're similar.
Unless I'm terribly misreading OG series, I feel like a lot of people vastly misunderstands Homura's character. Even in the last timeline we see, aka the plot of animu, she's clearly not a bad person. People say how she never cared about anyone else than Madoka and she's fine with ignoring and leaving to die other character, but that's not true. In episode 3, she comes to kill Charlotte and tells Mami to let her handle it because she knows Mami will die. And when Mami binds her, she's clearly agitated and tries to stop her, because she don't want Mami to die (even when we see their first failed attempt at fighting Walpurgisnacht, she's clearly disturbed by Mami's death). Later when Kyouko and Sayaka are having their duel on the bridge and Madoka throws Sayaka's soul gem away, Homura rushes to get it without skipping a beat. If she didn't care about her, she wouldn't even bother, yet her first instinct was to "save" her. And she was clearly angry at Kyuubey when he let Kyouko died, because again, she cares about them. Just over all her timelines, she never manged to save everyone and whenever she tried to tell them the truth, they didn't believe her, or worse, it backfired, so she gave up on trying to save everyone and only focused on Madoka, but she still tries to keep everyone safe. She just prioritizes Madoka first and tries to not show her emotions when others get killed (and well, seeing them die over and over definitely would numb anyone to the sight), but she still pretty much don't want them to die.
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I never got impression that's why this scene was here. It was clear to me both characters are gay and Nanaka is simply experiencing doubts. The story even opens with girl telling her that idea of loving someone of the same gender makes her feel sick. And honestly it was one of the better written one and it had one of the best male characters in yuri ever. I'd understand if it felt forced, but it fit the story and narrative perfectly fine. And even if, author still does tell it's ok to be gay etc. so isn't the fact the message is positive all that matters at the end?
Even clearly gay character are often not confirmed, so people who don't want to/don't see them as gay can see them as straight instead.
That's straight up homophobic and shouldn't be a thing.
Tell me about it. Yet that's still how majority of world works. Right now pleasing LGBT people is seen as potential risk rather than gain, so it must be calculated very carefully before going for it. And 99 times out of 100, companies decide it's not worth it.
Well how else is she going to make sure about her sexuality? It's not like everyone is born perfectly knowing it. That's why people experiment during their youth. I see it perfectly reasonable, especially after getting dumped and being at her lowest point, that she would go for something drastic, without really thinking it through, in the heat of the moment. Sometimes you need to experience something or you'll be regretting your entire life you didn't try it (not saying it happened here). I think the "having sex curses my lesbianism" is much more egregious and damaging trope than this. The "you just didn't meet the right man yet" thing.
I think the anime made it even gayer (...) between YachiIro than it was in the game.
You clearly played the game, but I think YachiIro is way more gayer in game than in anime so (not that they're not gay in anime, but game hammers it even more).
Anyways, I do agree with the person (Nevri I think) who said that if the Mifuyu/Iroha/Yachiyo trio were composed of boys and girls instead of just girls, they'd be seen as exes and bf/gf and yes that double standard is really annoying.
Yes, it was me, Nevri!
And I can't properly understand the Amane sisters' story, I only have one of the two in-game :'( (the weak one :) ) I know they lived apart and found each other quite recently, but I don't know what their wish was.
Well Tsukuyo's story is almost identical to Tsukasa's, just from her point of view. But in short, they lived very stressful lives and had high expectations put on them, they couldn't copy with very well. Then they meet each other and become ones another support and person to vent to and feel at ease with, but over time they started to get annoyed at the differences between them (rich vs poor) and cut their friendship over them. They went back to their lives, but without place to vent, they started to accumulate stress again and as their old way to deal with it didn't work anymore after tasting the feeling of finding someone who can understand you perfectly, they both lost conscious from fatigue and overworking. In hospital they realized they need each other to survive, but since they were afraid they might argue like that again, in order to avoid it, they wished "to never again hate each other". So simply they're incapable of getting mad at each other.
I just wanna mention that the 13th episode had me go WTF every two minutes. What the heck, Kaede wasn't brainwashed in the game???? And those doppels weren't there in the game either? And they chased off Mami, Iroha didn't fall into some hole in the ground?
The whole anime had me go ??? a lot of times with how they decided to randomly change some things like events leading to the discovery of the Seance Shrine
Personally I liked a lot of changes, I felt like they actually made sense and worked better than original, but the issue was it was too rushed and they had nowhere near enough time to flesh everything out, so in the end anime suffered because of it.
the miraculous water thing (why the Hell did Iroha drink that water? She's a magical girl, clearly those things were some familiars-lookalike, in the game it was just a normal dude with water, much more believable that Iroha would drink it, it was not in some creepy dark alley??), can someone tell me if I just misunderstood the game or if the anime really went YOLO?
Well in game the old guy was also created by Rumor. They explain it that before you're aware of its existence, they don't register to you. The same way in game and in anime those familiars spreading rumors could talk to girls and they were 100% sure they're talking to a friend, when Iroha and Felicia encountered the old guy/went to that shady place in anime, for the first time, they saw everything as normal. Anime could just show it as normal first and when they went back there later, as it really looked like, but they decided to go crazy from the get go. Iroha was simply unaware of it and to her it all looked normal. Took me a sec to realize it, but once I did it made perfect sense to me.
(let's remember that for yuri, you have to read between the lines since they'd never say it outright 'cause it could loose them fans -_-)
Wouldn't that be the opposite thought ?
No? Yuri is niche within a niche. Unless series/franchise is primarily yuri, adding confirmed yuri is bad idea. That's why most CGDCS etc. have yuri subtext at best, but never confirm their character to be lesbian (confirming they're straight is fine) to not alienated potential viewers that might like character and want to imagine relationship with them (waifu'ing). Same for most games, especially gacha games. Yuri fans and potential LGBT people who would be happy for the inclusion are a vast minority compare to rest of fanbase that want characters to be straight. That's the main reason most anime has no on screen confirmed gay characters and subtext is so hated. Even clearly gay character are often not confirmed, so people who don't want to/don't see them as gay can see them as straight instead. And yuri fans will see subtext everywhere and ship them regardless if they're confirmed or not, so why should they bother going out of their way to confirm anything?
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Childhood friend obviously never wins.
Just because someone is grown up doesn't mean they're mature. Our society assumes anyone after certain age is mature by default, but that doesn't mean everyone is.
Mangakas have no idea how weight works + insane asian standards of what normal, thin and chubby/fat looks like.
Well the very thing about MagiReco is that it is indeed a different universe, if the Homura and Ultimate Madoka events didn't make that clear enough, they outright say it with every word in the end of the story
Yea, but it isn't clear when you start playing and especially when you watch anime. Also Homura's event is just recap of anime. I thought that's where they explain it, but they didn't and I was disappointed in event because of it. I believe you meant Madokami's and Homura's episode stories, as only they mention it. Also sucks to be you if you didn't drop either of them, because now you don't know it. I really don't like when vital information like that are part of something not everyone has access to. And the explanation is flimsy anyway. And they still try to tie it all together to OG series. What I meant is that they should just commit to it and say, it's different universe without any connection, here how story could go differently or something. No OG Homura's time traveling somehow caused this new universe to split of and live on it's own etc.
and besides, the very existence of the anime discards the game as being possibly canon, so they have some more freedom to work on stuff like that.
And that's my entire point. If it's not going to be canon anyway, stop trying to perfectly tie it to OG story and just do your own thing. Trying to tie everything together perfectly is only hurting it.
but unless you disregard the spinoffs on principle I'd recommend giving it a shot.
And say what you will about Suzune Magica, but it does have good art.
I read Suzune's manga, so I clearly have no issue with spinoffs and yea, it has good art.
Okay, so, something to say about Suzune's event, is that there is a part 2 to it, which introduces Matsuri as playable in MagiReco, it has a similar ending to part 1, but a very important twist: The memory manipulation at the very end is done by Kagari herself, and while she messes with everyone else, she herself keeps all memories of the event, while also hinting very strongly at a potential part 3, which would introduce Kagari as playable, and potential resolve/give an alternate ending to the story of Suzune Magica, with fewer or entirely no deaths, due to interference from the Kamihama characters, even Chisato is still well and fine after part 2, and I already went into how quickly she got axed in her original story.
I honestly am not sure how I feel about it. If it's canon to the manga, what a cop-out. If it's not. I wish it was clearly stated that it's just a what if scenario or some kind of alternative take on events.
But tying everything together is just a gacha game thing in general
Honestly I think MR story in general would do much better with fans of OG series and newcomers if they just openly said it is just a different take on original story, because what imo hinders MR story the most right now is unclearness how canon exactly the story is and trying to tie it to everything else. Just have fun with different timelines/universes/whatever don't try to make everything make sense, because from what I saw so far, you're doing a poor job on it.
FGO does the same with its in-franchise collabs
FGO has the excuse that Fate franchise is a multiverse to begin with and it never made sense. It's build on contradictions, different outcomes and possibilities. So you can pretty much explain it with whatever jargon you want and it'll make sense in-universe. Madoka, for the most part, was very grounded. Sure it had timelines with Homura time traveling, but it was never said it's like multiple universes or something. It was clear Homura is living in 1, just repeats the same period over and over. What MR is doing is taking surprisingly simple and straightforward story about groundhog day month and makes it unnecessary complicated and bends over backwards to make it all make sense and tie together.
just the day before it got actually announced.
Yea that was pretty neat.
EDIT: Also this is completely random, but Nevri, I think I just fought you in Mirrors... I didn't even have time to process the name before clicking the button, but as the fight was loading, I had that "...wait, what?" moment to it and I had to check right after...
Oh yea xD I'm the same. I barely pay attention to names. Just looking for easy team to defeat. And yea, rank and leader of the team checks, though I use her first art. Do you remember what team composition it was? I use Homura, Yachiyo and Kyouko with Dark/Fire formation.
Speaking of FGO (another gacha game I play often) I think it'd be pretty interesting for them to do a collaboration event between that game and this one. I wonder how Mashu, Gudako, and depending on when it took place Romani would react to the magical girls and vise versa. What the Magius (or another group of magical girls or Homura) would do with the Holy Grail given it's wish granting machine properties.
On a somewhat related note, I could totally see Atalante being one of the Magius (Touka or Nemu's) servants given her love for children.
Megucas as mages summoning servants? I can see that. And yea, especially since Roman was fan of virtual idol Magi☆Mari it'd be funny to see his reaction xD I'd need to think a bit more about what servants who could summon, but coming up with new servants, especially for setting like that, is fun too, but I get the main appeal would be seeing those characters interacting. Also Kyuubey would totally be a vessel for the grail.
Legendary? While I do agree the Nanoha franchise and in particular the NanoFate ship is quite popular I don't know if I'd necessarily call it Legendary compared to other older ships like Sailor Neptune/Sailor Uranus.
I think they're legendary not in the sense of being a famous couple (whatever confirmed or not), but more like they're a go to example of lesbian married couple with a child. Sure they're not confirmed, but we don't have a confirmed example and they're pretty much subtext canon like Madoka girls etc. Heavily implied, but just never confirmed. At least that's my take on it.
Okay so, my thing with Nanoha, is that I have an immense distaste for the militaristic and armored design aesthetics,
The funny thing is that they actually do not have armored designs like that in the original show. The armors they wear are only from third and forth movies (which the collab event is promoting, they use music from 4th movie) that unlike first and second that adapted first and second season of anime, are original content that is supposed to take place between season 2 and season 3 (I think, maybe they're just telling different story and taking plot into different direction altogether, I didn't watch them and I only read basic descriptions). Their normal designs are more typical Magical Girl kinds
Nanoha
Fate
it also hits some of my most disliked magical girl tropes, including my absolute most hated trope in "age-up physical transformations"...
They don't actually use it. Only Nanoha's adopted daughter uses it and only in 4th season and in 5th all child characters use it. So you can safely watch first 3 seasons (which most people consider the best anyway, and there's even plenty of people who hate 3rd) and never see it. Well I guess she does transform into her older self at the end of season 3, but that's more because of villain fucking with her body rather than her using some kind of power up. He tried to turn her into perfect weapon.
a pure mystical magic system, explanations that expand upon said magic system's details, and so on.
Well Nanoha usually avoid going into details, but their magic is pure science rather than magic, so I guess that one won't work for you. It's in fact one of the reasons it really appeals to some people, but I guess different people have different tastes.
I personally love detailed, understandable magic systems, because it's fun seeing how different characters use and explore/exploit different aspects of it and also makes ass-pulls and unclear stakes much rarer, which is a common issue with abstract magic with no rules, that often simply becomes deus ex machina and what characters can and can't do depends solely on the plot. It's very hard to keep proper tension with those and situations like character barely managing to do something often don't feel earned, because of proper lack of understanding how much effort does it really take, especially when the line when they hit their limit and when they can still keep going, feel very arbitrary.
That being said, I have nothing against pure mystical magic and it can be fun too, if done right. I actually hate when some series start with premise of "how they do it? magic", but later try to explain it using science. Like in Naruto at first they just used chakra to do ninja magic and I was perfectly fine with that explanations. But near end of the series they started to try explaining it with logic and reason and it just took all the charm from it.