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Wth did I just read...I kept waiting for a Chisa x Ai development. I got invested for them in the beginning and then all of a sudden there's the kuhai.
The pacing of the characters reads as a story of a five year old playing with dolls.
It literally goes like "these two loved each other but then they broke up. Now this one loves the new one, the new one loved her husband instead, but then loved this one back"

MacySan
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I hope that just because their birthday is right around the corner, that it doesn't mean we are only getting one or two volumes.
This can go on much much longer, to even spawn an anime adaptation. The mangaka just needs to learn how to calmly pace things.
I have a feeling he feels his girls wont attract enough attention within the new yuri communities, so his pacing is all over the place. Makes me wonder if he is just testing the waters to see how the sales are in order to focus on a 12-13 episode adaptation.

I agree, I was thinking the pace is too fast too. Instead of days left the mangaka could make it months or even a couple of years. In between add more fights with that clan Souma is in etc.

I feel like there's a possibility of Himeko being more cunning here than she lets out. There had been two instances where she felt shady and as if she was trying to seduce Chikane on purpose, especially in that bath scene.
It would be an interesting twist if this turns out to be true. It would show how the moon fights with physical strength, but the sun, due to its light, possess the weapon of manipulation instead.

It seems like Souma likes Himeko here too, so maybe they could be collaborating on that tactic together.
Also idk what's going on with Souma's gender, because Chikane was calling her a "him" but then suddenly said "that woman"

MacySan
Citrus + discussion 20 Apr 12:06
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Very interesting. For me Mei is the highlight of the series. She feels much more human than the other characters

Literally how though? I'm genuinely puzzled.
I could see how the author tries to make her seem hurt and having a difficulty expressing her true feelings (which some people might find cute) but she executes it very poorly. She should have made Mei show emotions from time to time, in subtle ways. (I know there have been some instances, but even these barely had any true passion/emotion)
She is a literal robot in this chapter. Yuzu has her b-day, and Mei's face is drawn in the same static expression all throughout the panels. It really feels like she doesn't gaf and always talks about work, while others constantly praise her for being so responsible (a level of which only a robot could reach tbh). Saburuta could even draw a little blush on her when she wasn't facing Yuzu in this chapter, to show her supposed hidden emotions but she didn't.

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Citrus + discussion 20 Apr 10:48
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Mei always spoils the mood for me. I'd rather read a friendship story between the rest of the characters without any romance. It'd be nice to read about Yuzu and Harumin doing stupid gyaru stuff like wearing their bikinis while studying, without Mei the Dementor around.

MacySan
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Is this story an official continuation of KnM, or just a doujinshi?

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This kind of marriage you speak of is actually very plausible, especially in a society like Japan, where marriage due to convenience or societal pressure is a definite option. Based on my own circle of married Japanese friends and acquaintances, I cannot tell you how many of them have told me how convenient “marriage” can bring to their social lives. One told me she still has her single life and isn’t bothered by pesky questions of “when will you get married?” anymore. Another told me having a wife means a promotion. I even had a friend who I never knew was married for a long time! They led completely separate lives and she could easily be mistaken as single. These same people admire and respect their spouses, but I’ve never hear them say love. While these are het relationships, I don’t see why same sex couples wouldn’t do the same. Personally I don’t see anything wrong with it. If two consenting adults agree on such terms, then why not? It is Eurocentric to believe that marriage should only be based on love. Marriage, after all, is still practically a contract.

I dont think the concept of marrying because of love is Eurocentric. Maybe marriage for love is talked about more in Western countries, but from the other cultures that I've seen, they also talk about that too (an example could be Bollywood)
Maybe it's more "forced" for a lack of a better word to fall in love before marrying in a western society, but the reality is, this concept of marrying just for the sake of having kids or even people stop bothering you is applied in Europe as well. Especially in Eastern Europe. Russia just banned gay marriage not because they want gay people to stop being gay (like their president said), but to establish their own sovereignty against USA and foreign propaganda.
Also back in monarchy times, people used to marry to unify their families' powers, especially royals.

One of the main reasons gay people were and are still frowned upon is (as believed by many) the loss of power. A gay marriage is not mainly based on procreating (even though this can happen too), at least in a lot of people's minds. Especially in more traditional societies. So it's kinda contradicting for a traditional parent to be satisfied with their kid marrying someone irregardless of their sex.

But of course in a story this can happen because it's fantasy. I remember reading a fan fiction about a female anime character being bugged to get married in 15th century. And she married a woman and everyone was fine. Sometimes it's just suspension of disbelief. I think this story is interesting to read and that's what matters.

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For those who haven't already read the rest on Mangadex: After a whole bunch of drama, the manga ends on an 'only good friends' note.

Once Mangadex is back up, you can judge for yourselves.

I've started reading it from Manganelo...
Also why did i have to read that spoiler -.- I was like I don't mind spoilers, but I didn't see that coming tbh...

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Lol at the last panel where the silhouette of the author appears...kinda creepy too.

Also this covid thing has lasted so long that now even characters in anime wear a mask. For example in the OP of Jujutsu Sekai we can see passers by wearing a mask too.
Anyway, I think the April's fool tag was mostly regarding the content of the story within, and not so much as the author writing a story for April's fools, whether that actually kinda happened or not.

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Honestly, I also had the same thought when I read the LN, I was really disturbed with how Rei acted with Claire and was confused af. But honestly, with the amount of chapters I had to wait to get an explanation, I doubt it’ll be shown in the manga. It probs might takes years. I highly recommend you reading the LN to have all your questions answered.

Didn't know this had a LN. I just checked it and it's 242 chapters. I wonder if one LN chapter =one manga chapter. Because that would be huge. Regardless, the manga will still be long either way, so yeah it will take years. I'll start reading the LN then, even though I like manga as a medium better.

MacySan
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Such a classic move, a flashback chapter after a big cliffhanger.
Well, I can't say I didn't like it at all, because it gives us a new perspective about how Kurokawa feels and thinks. I just think this chapter was too short and I expected to see that scene where she bumped into Fujishiro and her boyfriend, and shows us how she felt about that encounter.

I was expecting the same, but we already got a semi-explanation of how she actually felt that day in the last chapter. I think we would get at least another flashback chapter of her actual thoughts on her whole friendship with Nanaki and would get to see her actual thoughts during that moment before we get to see the climax of Nanaki's confession. At least thats what i'm hoping for.

Ohh that would be interesting to read...Even though we already know why Kurokawa had such a rejection to Nanaki's advances, throughout the story we are only introduced to her insecure side. We haven't seen her side that likes Fujishiro, and this chapter showed a snippet of it. This is why I don't consider it a filler.
Another (very specific example) I'd like to see was that scene during their school trip where Kurokawa got really close to Nanaki's face to demonstrate how far she can see without her glasses. And even though Nanaki was really flustered/upset, Kurokawa seemed very nonchalant about it. So it would be interesting to see if Kurokawa got flustered too and hid it.

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MacySan
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Such a classic move, a flashback chapter after a big cliffhanger.
Well, I can't say I didn't like it at all, because it gives us a new perspective about how Kurokawa feels and thinks. I just think this chapter was too short and I expected to see that scene where she bumped into Fujishiro and her boyfriend, and shows us how she felt about that encounter.

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The world building is a little weird, because when Rei got in, there wasn't magic and there weren't any signs of these element monsters being around. Adding them 8 chapters later feels like the author wasn't sure about how they wanted the world to be from the start. Anyway, the magic part is not bad though.

I don't think chapter 2 counts as adding magic 8 chapters later

What I meant was, the magic felt out of place because they only started developing it pretty later. That part you posted was like "yeah there's this challenge you can play in the game" and that's it. You don't see the magic around the school much or at all before the whole Water slime monster.

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The main idea of this story is interesting, but it's not something super original either, since isekai is not an uncommon theme in manga. The pacing, if you read all the chapters together is good.
The world building is a little weird, because when Rei got in, there wasn't magic and there weren't any signs of these element monsters being around. Adding them 8 chapters later feels like the author wasn't sure about how they wanted the world to be from the start. Anyway, the magic part is not bad though.
The overall plot is interesting, but the weak spots are the main character and her (lack of) chemistry with Claire.
I liked that chapter where they were talking about mc's sexuality, because we got a glimpse of how she actually was in real life. This gave her more depth, because other than that, I find her character cartoonish. She's just an idiot and it doesn't make any sense why she likes Claire that much. I mean, it was just a character from a game...I know this is supposed to be for comedic reasons and the only way to make Claire warm up around Rei, but Rei enjoying getting bullied by her is a bit cringey and makes her look like an idiot.
And now we are at the point of getting a development between Claire and Sein lol. I was like, yeah start dating, I don't care. Because the chemistry between Claire and Rei is almost zero. I know it makes sense regarding Claire's character and how she is "destined" to dislike Rei, but so far I don't care much about shipping them. Also I can't say I like Claire much either, because she is behaving like that typical kinda idiot villain too. Other than showing signs that she doesn't want to really bully the mc, she gives off that typical spoiled brat vibe. But I'm sure there will be a development regarding the characters, so I will wait to see my overall opinions until later.

I'm really curious to see if we will get an explanation about why Rei got Isekai'd, if she will reveal it to Claire once they get closer, if she will go back to her world, or even if Claire would go back with her.
These are the main attractions to the story for me right now, and I want to see them getting addressed until the end. I think it will be shallow and a waste of potential otherwise, to just have Rei stay in that world forever and pretend the getting transferred into a game was normal.

MacySan
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Generally we would very strongly encourage people not to go anime-only on this, because the anime does not do a very good job of adapting this series.

I will read the manga too at some point, probably when I'm out of anime this season. But generally I like anime more even if they don't adapt mangas well, because there's motion and sound and it makes the scenes more intense and realistic. For example, the sound effects add a whole another perspective to the scary factor. Also the colors.
If I read the manga I then lose the will to watch the anime, and I feel like I'm missing out from the experience. But also I can't wait every week for an episode, so oftentimes I switch to manga which ends up being the same regarding the waiting lol

MacySan
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I'm currently anime-only following this, but from the first few pages I've seen in the manga, it seems they've toned down the yuri in the anime.
The story is pretty interesting and bizarre and it's inspired by a book called "Roadside Picnic" written in 1971. It's actually scary at some parts, which I didn't expect to feel like since I've never been scared in anime (I've been disgusted, but that's different). I think the sound effects in the "scary scenes" is one of the reasons.
On the other hand, there seems to be a lack of a main plot or goal, and I don't think the yuri is strong enough to be the main reason someone will follow this if they are not interested in its world and story.
Despite that, there are so many theories you can make about who Satsuki is or what the Otherside is, which is why I'm watching it.

MacySan
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This is awful...that we have to wait a whole month now for an update

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Egh, I know all the characters here are supposed to be sick one way or another, but Haruki doing the deed while Aya quickly crawled like a spider to her room to catch her in action is just ridiculous and hilarious. It removed that knot in the stomach feeling I usually have when reading this story.
The characters have sunk so low, that the story feels like the Scary Movie version of a horror movie.

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I've read the first chapters all together again, and I liked the story better. All characters are likable and the story flows naturally without any forced plots or drama.
Too bad this got licensed, but I'll still keep my eyes on this regardless

MacySan
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AHH FUCK...

Such a roller coaster chapter, but in the end I didn't like how the confession was made because Kurokawa didn't seem to like it and looked terrified. Plus the Fujishiro's ex friends behind them....
Agh. I don't like the forcefully being outed tropes. Also there's probably drama coming to their relationship because they don't seem ready. Especially Kurokawa.

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Honey-san is pretty hot, ngl. Hayate sleeping right next to her naked, holding hands etc and only now realizing her feelings are "weird". Is this level of density even realistic?

Also it's funny how Hayate gets all flustered at hearing "their daughter". Pretty sure having a daughter with Honey is what first crossed her mind.
I'd like to see chapters of just Hayate and Honey doing stuff together like the first pages here and not always having a battle. The battles and that storyline are weak.

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MacySan
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Lol is this chapter two different years? The first part is Uta in college and then it seems like another time skip after she graduates and works.
In the first part it seems like she has moved on, but then goes back to living with Kaoru.

I guess all three of them still live as a family in the end again, with Reiichi living next to them.
Is Uta dating Kaoru now? Personally to me it feels like they're still in a "family relationship" and not romantic, and Uta is content with that. I think the author realized it would be hard to have them date after all the building around Kaoru not being interested in Uta this way. So an open ending was the closest to a "happy ending". This was a bit anti climactic, although I think we needed more chapters to make a proper Uta moving on ending too. Therefore the only ending the author could have pulled given the situation.

The story developed some deep themes about unrequited love, but in the last two chapters it was rushed and we couldn't even have a satisfying ending regarding the theme of moving on to begin with. The author didn't have the guts to go full everyone has moved on but this is just life ending.

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it's hurtfully obvious that Kurokawa knows she's in love with Fujishiro

Yeah, that's a very interesting part of their development that I want to see more. Like get ire scenes with Kurokawa acting conscious about her liking for Fujishiro, and Fujishiro getting angsty.

Also wish this manga updated more often

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Mage and Demon Queen 23 Sep 11:51
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Latest chapter's plot twist was something no one expected. I give credits to the author for that, but tbh I'm not too happy about it

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Citrus + discussion 21 Sep 13:49
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I will prefer if Harumi hits her sister instead who is better and hotter than Matsuri but sure is complicated that why she got for the blondie instead

I kinda cringe with incest but I feel like she even has a better chemistry with her sister than Matsuri.
Harumin's words about Matsuri didn't make any sense, and it feels like Saburuta was trying to make it seem like something deep, but it turned out to have no consistency and be more random.
It just seems like author wants to find an excuse to extend the story as much as possible, because she never had any development between them to begin with. Saburuta isn't very strong with chemistry developing, like we can see with Mei and Yuzu, but Harumin and Matsuri don't just have zero chemistry, but negative. At least in my eyes.

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Citrus + discussion 21 Sep 10:25
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This is weird. I clicked on that link ^ and it took me to the new chapter that was uploaded in September 21st, but when I click on the Citrus + title it doesn't show it to me. The last chapter showing is from August.
Anyone else has that problem?

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