this stories problem in my opinion is that its characters lack believable motives due to a lack of elaboration making their actions make no sense and causes the narrative to become less than convincing as a plausible conflict.

What motives do you want? It's teenage drama. Teens don't need elaborate motives to do stupid shit. That's what teems do. I don't know about you but I can totally related to that.

That been said, it's not like the characters have no motives at all. We know that Yuni's cheating on Nanase because she feels neglected, for instance. People cheat for way less than that, you know? We also know that Fukko is messing with Yuni and Nanase because she's kinda traumatized over her unrequited love for her childhood friend. So there are motives aplenty.

Anyway, my point stands. There's no basis to claim this thing is badly written. It's consistent and the pacing is good and while things are exaggerated for the sake of drama, it's not really implausible.

this isnt about what i want from the characters,its about what the characters need in order for their actions to make sense beyond their so called age which truly doesnt matter at all.these characters would act the same way even if they were older or younger,as the age of a character hardly ever actually make them act their age.

in regards to bad writing:

yuni is "neglected" by her girlfriend so she makes the leap of logic to start cheating as a solution to her relationship problems,and yet some readers claim its because she is a teenager.

fukko was "betrayed" by her unrequited love so she makes the leap of logic to traumatize another person way worse than she was,and yet some readers find this hot so its all good.

nanase is in "love" with her girlfriend so she makes the leap of logic to prioritize her club activities over her beloved girlfriend,and yet some readers claim past trauma is at fault.

this manga simply hasnt truly elaborated enough on the reasoning behind its characters actions forcing the readers to speculate in order to make sense of this mess of a story,and there not being a deeper reason for the characters actions other then the surface reasons causes the story to be very shallow.

Dude, people cheating when they're neglected happens all the time. You seem to live in a world where people's actions are absolutely governed by logic. That's not the real world. In the real world people do illogical shit for very little reasons all the time. And of course it's perfectly valid to have fictional characters acting illogically. It's not bad writing. It's only bad writing when it's inconsistent, that it is when a character known for being a very logically-minded person suddenly starts acting illogical. That's bad writing. But characters acting illogically is not inherently bad writing.

The same goes for the lack of deeper reasons for the characters' actions. It's not bad writing. Some of the greatest literary works in history don't have clear motivations for the characters or are only hinted at and left to readers' interpretation.

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Anyone who hasn't yet, do read all the chapters, because otherwise 17 will seem utterly insane, instead of just crazy and Nanase having a brain seizure from overstimulation.

Right now chapters 10 and 11 aren't here, and those have a bunch of context to understand Fuuko and Yuni bit better.

context wont fix bad writing though?

This is pretty trashy but it's not particularly bad written. The pacing is good, the characters are consistent in their behavior, the tone is also pretty consistent in its silliness.

It's silly and trashy and the characters' behavior and reactions aren't realistic but fiction doesn't have to mirror real-life so this isn't a problem.

it isnt realism that i was regarding to though?

this stories problem in my opinion is that its characters lack believable motives due to a lack of elaboration making their actions make no sense and causes the narrative to become less than convincing as a plausible conflict.

What motives do you want? It's teenage drama. Teens don't need elaborate motives to do stupid shit. That's what teems do. I don't know about you but I can totally related to that.

That been said, it's not like the characters have no motives at all. We know that Yuni's cheating on Nanase because she feels neglected, for instance. People cheat for way less than that, you know? We also know that Fukko is messing with Yuni and Nanase because she's kinda traumatized over her unrequited love for her childhood friend. So there are motives aplenty.

Anyway, my point stands. There's no basis to claim this thing is badly written. It's consistent and the pacing is good and while things are exaggerated for the sake of drama, it's not really implausible.

Anyone who hasn't yet, do read all the chapters, because otherwise 17 will seem utterly insane, instead of just crazy and Nanase having a brain seizure from overstimulation.

Right now chapters 10 and 11 aren't here, and those have a bunch of context to understand Fuuko and Yuni bit better.

context wont fix bad writing though?

This is pretty trashy but it's not particularly bad written. The pacing is good, the characters are consistent in their behavior, the tone is also pretty consistent in its silliness.

It's silly and trashy and the characters' behavior and reactions aren't realistic but fiction doesn't have to mirror real-life so this isn't a problem.

Morals? What morals? I root for Fuuko because she's hot as fuck. lol

Diana's really cool, to be honest. I really dig her somewhat brash personality.

Super fair. I just feel that if Neko wanted to communicate that message, they could have had Diana and Gran argue without needing the comments from Natori about their getting along better than the game. Had they simply argued, that alone would have been a shift from the game and Natori could have looked on in tongue-in-cheek "horror" as she realized that the two had no real chemistry. Instead, she reinforces their chemistry, even going so far as to say it trumps the game and I find that a potentially meaningful choice from the author. That extra turn wasn't needed, if all they wanted was to show that they had no chemistry.

To me what Natori means is that Diana and Gran actually looks like they could be friends now instead of being constricted to what the game's plot demanded. I don't think she's implied any romance possibility between them.

Chapter 16 raw is out, and answers a lot of questions. The maid gives the infodump. As it turns out, Emile's glamour is so strong that even vampires are effected by it. The maid is not affected because there are a small number of vampires who aren't effected by such powers. That maid is like that. But Emile is in despair because all the people around her got all messed up because of her. The maid assures her it's not her fault but this doesn't do anything to cheer her up. So the maid tells her there will be at least one person in her life that won't be effected by her power, and when Emile meets that person, she must treasure them. Emile asks if the maid can be that person, but the maid says she can't because she likes being alone. Emile must find her important person on her own. And so, Emile finds out about the school for vampires and talks her family into send her there. But even in the school people are affected by her power. Emile tries to be kind and nice to everyone to feel like people like her for who she is, but deep down she knows the truth. She still hopes that when her onee-sama is selected, that person will be the one she's waiting for, her one and only, her important person. The flashback ends and we go back to the present time. Emile is outside her room all depressed and Eve is coming out to talk to her. That's the end of the chapter.

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Murasakino is back with more drama yuri. Not gonna be surprised if there is toxicity.

Idk the way it started sounded like the girls won't ended up together. The girl at the beginning seems to be Fuyuki.

Fuyuki has dark hair though. The girl at the beginning is probably Eri since her hair has that reddish tone.

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Um, hang on a moment. Evie's currently rescuing Elsa from imminent death from exposure. Which, the previous version wouldn't have done, would she? Would she have even been on the scene? So, why was Elsa alive in the original timeline?

I know, I know, don't sweat the small time paradoxes.

It has been stated they're in a stable time loop. Meaning Evie had already done this. She does it every time. That's why Elsa considered Evie her destined soulmate from the start. Evie just didn't remember because from her point of view, it still hadn't happened.

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60 chapters in and there isn't even a single pairing that works. What a waste of time.

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There are three chapters in this series and only the first and the third (last) one are translated. The second one is not.

To make it more clear:

1) 突然何となく隣の席の同僚とセックスしたくなりました (translated)

2) 突然何となく隣の席の同僚とイチャつきたくなりました (not translated)

3) 突然何となく隣の席の同僚とキスしたくなりました (translated)

Here's an amazon link to the middle chapter is anyone is interested in translating it:
https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0BL3V8B71

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I actually preferred it when it was just a one-gag manga. Now that the author is trying to develop the relationship a bit I can't help to notice they have very little chemistry and I don't dig the pairing.

So Linda is an elf. I wasn't expecting that. I didn't even think there were elves in this game.

Diana seems pretty jealous there at the end, but I don't think Diana is as far behind Lapis in Natori's heart as she thinks. For starters, Lapis' words about "valuing oneself" echoed Diana's words from chapter 6, and Natori did notice the similarity. Of course, Diana has no way of knowing that. lol

In any case, it's an interesting love triangle. The point of contention is still the fact that Natori has low self-esteem. Both Diana and Lapis try to encourage her and boost her self-esteem but ultimately Natori has to find her own worth on her own.

On the other hand, I feel that Lapis trying to get Natori to serve the prince and Diana is a not too subtle attempt to put some distance between herself and Natori. I think Lapis wants to stay committed to her plan against the commoners and keeping Natori around is making it hard to do so.

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I don't see it that way. Natori's feelings for Lapis come from her necessity for external approval. There's a reason every time Natori goes doki-doki for Lapis is when the latter acknowledges her efforts. But that need for approval is unhealthy. What Natori actually needs is to get a boost on self-esteem, and she can't get that from Lapis. It has to come from withing. Only then she will be ready to have a real relationship (be it with Lapis or Diana).

Basically what I'm trying to say is that despite appearances, I think neither Lapis nor Diana has broken Natori's shell just yet. Which means both of them have equal chances right now.

This got a bit long. Sorry.

Too long, to be honest. It's hard to read and even harder to pick up your points to discuss. I would appreciate it if you could summarize the main points so we can have a proper discussion.

Yes, Natori, the plot proceeds as intended... now that the Heroine has unlocked the Villainess' Familiar route. :D

I wonder if the intended result of this chapter was for the entire readerbase to fall in love with Diana.

It definitely was. Chapter 6 is the opening of volume 2, and if you recall, Diana has been a rather flat and bland character in volume 1 (compared to Lapis), who suddenly started acting inconsistently and violently in chapter 5. I am pretty sure that the author and their editor received feedback from the first volume about it and went back to the drawing board on how they present Diana, effectively removing Lapis for an entire chapter to give Diana enough time to shine and to establish her as a credible rival to Lapis for Natori's heart. And I say they've achieved their goal admirably.

If they want Diana to truly feel like a rival they need to have Natori acknowledge and feel similarly for Diana as she does for Lapis. Right now Diana follows along and crushes on Natori but Natori hasn't really reciprocated. The fact that Diana is so upfront with her crush is becoming a hindrance to her being a true rival because, even with that constant affection from Diana, Natori still treats Lapis as a completely different entity compared to Diana. Natori's meaningfully touching moments have all come with Lapis and it seems Lapis is able to touch her heart with comparatively fewer words than Diana, implying that Lapis has a connection and understanding of what Natori wants to hear more than Diana (at this point). This works both ways, since Lapis also seems to have been greatly touched by Natori, even within their short time together.

If Lapis weren't busy with her schemes and forced to be away, would Diana even have a chance? It doesn't seem so. And Lapis won't be away forever. As of now, Diana has more been positioned as a 3rd wheel who desperately wants what Lapis seems to have--even with Lapis's limited presence--while maybe not fully understanding what makes Lapis stand out and affect Natori so much in the first place.

I don't see it that way. Natori's feelings for Lapis come from her necessity for external approval. There's a reason every time Natori goes doki-doki for Lapis is when the latter acknowledges her efforts. But that need for approval is unhealthy. What Natori actually needs is to get a boost on self-esteem, and she can't get that from Lapis. It has to come from withing. Only then she will be ready to have a real relationship (be it with Lapis or Diana).

Basically what I'm trying to say is that despite appearances, I think neither Lapis nor Diana has broken Natori's shell just yet. Which means both of them have equal chances right now.

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Diana is so cute, and her love for Natori is pretty solid.

EDIT: is it me or Diana unlocked the kabedon event before Lapis? lol

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The one who decides who gets the sword is the god, Sylph. So far the sword had always been inherited by people from the royal family, but this time the god picked a nun instead of the queen. I hope we get a proper answer as to why. Did Natalia lack some qualification? I want to know.

I don't think that's it. The exact phrasing Sara used in chapter 1 was "The real sword is here rooted in me" and not something like "I had been granted the sword" or similar. If I had to guess it's a ploy by Slyph to give Natalia someone she can rely on and keep by her side.

This is only a guess of course, but if it's correct it's definitely working.

It's not correct. The sword is rooted in its host. Natalia's brother, the previous king, called himself the host in chapter 1. But after his death, the nun became the new host. Natalia wasn't chosen as the host for whatever reason.

But that doesn’t mean Natalia ain’t queen because only the next in line can use the sword, just because the sword is hosted in Sara doesn’t mean Natalia is lacking in being queen or Sara is supposed to use the sword insted of Natalia

Natalia is the queen. No one is putting that in doubt. But the sword is not just a symbol, it's very much a weapon the king uses to protect the kingdom from monsters and other dangers. After all, there's a reason her father and brother are dead, right? And we already saw hints of this in the monster that attacked the towns in chapter 2 or 3. What if more powerful monsters attack though? Natalia's power can only do so much without the sword.

That's why it's very strange that the god didn't let Natalia become the host of the sword like her brother and her father before herself. They had the means to protect the kingdom (and still died, mind you) while she does not.

Meanwhile, Sara, someone who doesn't even have the magical power to beat a minor monster, became the host the sword instead of Natalia. It's very strange.

One thing for sure, I don't think Sara can let Natalia use the sword. The sword only responds to its host. That's what Natalia's brother told her in chapter 1. And now the host is Sara.

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The one who decides who gets the sword is the god, Sylph. So far the sword had always been inherited by people from the royal family, but this time the god picked a nun instead of the queen. I hope we get a proper answer as to why. Did Natalia lack some qualification? I want to know.

I don't think that's it. The exact phrasing Sara used in chapter 1 was "The real sword is here rooted in me" and not something like "I had been granted the sword" or similar. If I had to guess it's a ploy by Slyph to give Natalia someone she can rely on and keep by her side.

This is only a guess of course, but if it's correct it's definitely working.

It's not correct. The sword is rooted in its host. Natalia's brother, the previous king, called himself the host in chapter 1. But after his death, the nun became the new host. Natalia wasn't chosen as the host for whatever reason.

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I thought it made sense not to bring up that the sword was a fake because Princess Natalia would be unlikely believe it. Sister Sara has no proof as far as we know, so I think she might also be trying to earn the trust of Natalia so that she will be more likely to consider trying to pull the sword out of Sara.

I don't think that's how things work. I think they said the sword can only be used by the host who inherited it (Sara in this case) so I don't think Natalia can use it.

The one who decides who is the host for the sword is the god, Sylph. So far the sword had always been inherited by people from the royal family, but this time the god picked a nun instead of the queen. I hope we get a proper answer as to why. Did Natalia lack some qualification? I want to know.

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I'm sure this will be the dumbest question's to ask. Out of all the girl's at there school that fuuko could have dated. Why did she choose yuni? Is it because she love's yuni or is it for some other reason?

Wasn't it simply because she knew that Yuni was gay? Fuuko had already experienced an unrequited love for a straight girl. I'm sure she didn't want to go through that shit again so when she found out Yuni was gay (through her social media) it was like a gift from heaven, I would assume.

Fuko's personal dilemma is all about not being "number one" in the eyes of the girl she loved.

Now she tells Yuni she's fine with being her "second girlfriend / side chick" but that's not true. She's not fine with it at all. She wants to be Yuni's "number one." And we see she can get really jealous when Yuni is thinking about Nanase or talking about her. So I don't think polyamory is an option here.

Both perspectives are factually accurate

Or maybe not. People think there's gonna be some romance between Fuyuki and Eri because that's usually what you get from this sort of setup. But I wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Fuyuki ends up with her senpai at the end and Eri ends up all alone.

I actually like this outcome. Not necessary Eri ends up all alone, but for once I want the protagonist to be able to move on and find her own happiness. Yes, losing your first love for a long time is really hurt, but there are many fishes in the ocean and you can find someone that will love you as much as you love them, and drama-free lol.

But given the brief timeskip in the first chapter, it probably won't happen. Or maybe it can, and that's actually the wedding between Fuyuki and someone else (could be the senpai), while Eri and Kyou did indeed break up, and just attend it separately.

The woman with the wedding dress in the first page of chapter 1 looks like Eri to me, not Fuyuki. If I had to guess, I'd say Eri is marrying an unknown person that is neither Kyo nor Fuyuki.

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Okay lemme guess, Fuyuki tries to fuck around with her mysterious senpai to get over Eri, Eri gets jealous and tries to get Fuyuki back, Kyou is the mystery in this scenario

This would be the expected outcome if the author wasn't Murasakino. If there's one thing Murasakino is not afraid of is going against expectations.

Personally, I think Fuyuki will indeed try something with her senpai, but I don't think Eri's reaction would be what people expect. I don't think Eri is in love with Fuyuki. I think she's deeply possessive of Fuyuki, maybe to an obsessive degree, but I don't think her feelings are romantic.

All in all, I'm expecting Eri to do something drastic to keep Fuyuki around, but that's probably gonna bite her in the ass. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if Fuyuki ends up with her senpai at the end and Eri ends up all alone.

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