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I hope the time travel stuff is BS

I think there is way too much foreshadowing for it to be BS. The whole super genius brother thing for one screams sci-fi shenanigans. Also, given the way she burst into tears and completely freaked for little reason when Akira declared she considers her a friend suggests this girl isn't telling the whole truth about what befell Pure and her "amore" in the future. I mean who breaks the laws of the universe just to go back and meet their girlfriend a little sooner?

Something horrible has compelled her to return to the past to change things and from what we have seen that is exactly what she is doing. She is changing the future. That was the whole point of that scene with the conflicting memories after the amusement park. We see her confused by the disparity between her memories of what once was and what is now being rewritten. Most concerning is the fact Pure doesn't seem to remember her "amore" ever telling her she loved her in the original timeline. She altered something in her own past by going back and more specifically by going on that date and it seems to be messing up her mind and making her ill.

This story has tragedy written all over it. Dead mother. Horrible betrayal by her father. Two mentally ill siblings both suffering from serious emotional and psychological damage from the family melting down. Some crazy yandere chick claiming she is from the future shows up and starts crying out of nowhere etc. This one isn't going to be all sweetness and fuzzy good times.

last edited at Sep 15, 2018 11:14PM

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

as i wonder why yuri as a genre is so repetitive and filled with generic drama, being nothing more than a romance subgenre... then i see comments like these once in a while... and makes me realize... it might not get any better any time soon.

Um...hate to tell you this, but yuri is a romance subgenre. So is yaoi. At least when they're not being porn subgenres. Being invested in the characters' love lives is sort of the point.

Not that this says it has to be bad or repetitive, that's on the individual authors, and I definitely agree that the (sub)genre could use a lot of work expanding the subject matter. It is happening, far as I can see from stuff going up on Dynasty, but it's slow going.

You don't have to tell me, I already know. And gripe about it frequently. I've read/seen everything, even after i was bored of it all.

You CAN have lesbian characters in something that isn't just the usual yuri romance-drama. Personally, I am really having trouble caring for anything with a plot, cuz its all just the same shit that i read over and over and over... Melodramatic soap operas... Everywhere...

Even as a subgenre it's rather contrived into being so samey. Little to no variety in comparison with so many het romance out there.

But even when we get something thats seemingly different...
Yuri in a mech series? they end up in a love triangle / b-but we are both girls drama.
Yuri in a fantasy/adventure series? they end up in a love triangle / b-but we are both girls drama.

You have to admit like 80% of het romance dramas have some kind of love triangle or harem as well. There are just way more het romance stories so that 20% that don't go that route constitute a much larger number overall.

last edited at Sep 15, 2018 10:42PM

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Spanking 15 Sep 21:58
45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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I was going to suggest just looking it up via tags, but weirdly enough despite having a tag for pretty much everything under the sun there isn't one for that. We even have tags for 'lizard' and 'not a lizard'. I guess you could sift through everything under the BDSM tag since spanking would generally be included there, but be warned you will find some pretty crazy stuff in there so tread carefully.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

I'm glad the kind folks translating this didn't drop the project after all these ingrates howled, and screeched and foamed at the mouth here in the comments section over the fact that that the translator felt the characters heavy accent was important to preserve in the translation in order to capture the original feel and meaning of the dialog in the manga.

Seriously, you people complaining about this make me sick to my stomach. If you have a problem with the manner in which it was translated then by all means do the work yourself. If somebody bakes you a cake you don't spit in their face and screech, "How dare you make it chocolate when I prefer vanilla!"

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Amanchu! discussion 14 Sep 05:35
45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Not even close. I have been on the receiving end of homophobia and I don't know what sort of idyllic, sugar coated fantasy world you come from, but this is light years from that.

Sorry to be the one to inform you but there are different levels of homophobia, just like there are different levels of racism. Beating a gay man to death is homophobic, sending your gay child to a conversion camp is homophobic, calling the butch girl in class a dyke is homophobic, telling a child that girls cant love girls is homophobic. All on different levels but all are still homophobic.

The worst you could accuse the character of is being a strait girl that is slightly presumptuous in assuming that male she is talking to is heterosexual and attracted to her friend. All she is trying to say to him is she believes the way they feel towards Pikari is different because in her case she is not sexually attracted to her.

You really lack the context of the scene. The kid is the one accusing Teko of being romantically attracted to Pikari. Teko doesn't retort with an understandable "I don't like girls." She instead explains that since he is a boy and she is a girl that their love for Pikari is different. The implication is that girls can't love girls. If it wasn't then bringing up the fact that he is a boy would be irrelelvent, it assumes that if he were a she then his love wouldn't be romantic. His gender reveal redefined his attraction to Pikari.

This is just how people talk it has nothing to do with Teko or the author hating on gay people. She is a very shy girl so it would be completely out of character for her to say something like, "The way we feel about Pikar is different because you are sexually attracted to her and I am not." Also keep in mind the context which is that she is trying to explain sexual feelings to a kid.

Yes, it has everything to do with the author hating on gay people. She went out of her way to add a male love interest and kill off all subtext between Teko and Pikari. The entire point of this scene is to show that girls can't love girls, that a persons gender defines their love and not who they are as a person. And I got to love how you treat it like he is just a kid with a crush when he becomes Pikari's boyfriend not long after. Funny how you think he has to be treated like a kid to be explained the birds and the bees but the author doesn't do the same when his 16 year old girlfriend accepts his marriage proposal.

No, you are presumptuous in believing I lacked awareness of the context of the scene. I have watched this entire anime and read the manga. I am fully aware of what was going on in this scene. If the author wants to make it clear that one of characters isn't gay that's completely fine. That has nothing to do with hating gay people. It's her story and her characters and she is free to do as she pleases with them.

If she had had Teko say something like," Of course the way I feel about Pikari is different from you because I am a girl and girl's romantically liking other girls is gross and wrong" that would be homophobic. Simply implying that she is strait through an innocuous line of dialogue is not.

From what I can tell, the author probably was likely initially writing intentional lesbian subtext into her story because some of it is pretty on the nose, and for one reason or another she got pressured to stop doing that perhaps either due fan responses or somebody higher up with her publisher decided that lesbian love stories don't fit the publications image and target demographic. Monthly Comic Blade is a shounen magazine so I can see how she might get asked by her editor to either add a male love interest and or put an end to the lesbian subtext. I have never seen anything said or written by Kozue Amano to suggest she hates gay people.

I don't see where some of the people on this forum get this whole, "It's heterosexual, quick burn it with fire" mentality. Seriously, that's the sort of crap you expect to hear from a bunch of intolerant bigots at a KKK rally when somebody spots a gay person or a black guy. It's not the sort of behavior I would expect from a strongly lgbt community full of people who know what it is like to be discriminated against.

Edit: I should probably add that your comment itself didn't really warrant my rant. It was more like the straw the broke the camels back in that it was the last in a long string of comments by people flaming content creators over harmless creative decisions they make for their work. Just because a creator sinks your favorite lgbt ship doesn't mean they should be called bigots or homophobes. Mangaka and other famous artists are people with feelings too and should be treated as such. I really liked Pikari x Teko too, but it doesn't make it ok to flame the poor mangaka just because she took her story a different direction.

last edited at Sep 14, 2018 5:51AM

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

Now this was a well crafted and memorable read.

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

I love how adorable and twisted all the characters are. Even the crazy, stalker pedophile teacher is somehow cute.

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Amanchu! discussion 13 Sep 11:03
45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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I don't think you even remotely understand what the term "homophobic" even means.

Pretty sure stating that a person's love is different depending on their gender is pretty damn homophobic.

Not even close. I have been on the receiving end of homophobia and I don't know what sort of idyllic, sugar coated fantasy world you come from, but this is light years from that.

The worst you could accuse the character of is being a strait girl that is slightly presumptuous in assuming that male she is talking to is heterosexual and attracted to her friend. All she is trying to say to him is she believes the way they feel towards Pikari is different because in her case she is not sexually attracted to her.

This is just how people talk it has nothing to do with Teko or the author hating on gay people. She is a very shy girl so it would be completely out of character for her to say something like, "The way we feel about Pikar is different because you are sexually attracted to her and I am not." Also keep in mind the context which is that she is trying to explain sexual feelings to a kid.

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Amanchu! discussion 13 Sep 06:20
45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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RIP!!!!
https://storage.animetosho.org/sframes/0008099f_1030119.png?s=3

Well, i wanted to watch this Anime, but now there's no sense to do it..! That's quite homophobic.

I don't think you even remotely understand what the term "homophobic" even means.

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Mousou Envy discussion 13 Sep 05:35
45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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You're being too absolute. Demanding sex is rape only if the other party is under duress or compelled to accept the demand. For example, telling someone "have sex with me or leave" would still be cruel, or rude, or gross, but if someone says that to, say, a stranger on the street, or an acquaintance visiting their apartment—a person who knows they can simply refuse, walk away, and never interact again if they so choose—I don't see how anyone could see that as equivalent to rape. Under those circumstances, if someone agrees, then they are voluntarily consenting.

When it comes to this manga, I think people can reasonably disagree over whether Keiko is under duress in this situation. On the one hand Asumi has every right to decide who lives in her apartment, and Keiko is free to leave. On the other hand, for all we know she's threatening to kick Keiko out into the night to sleep on the streets.

Yeah, this does not even remotely qualify as rape. This is just some immoral woman trying to cruelly manipulate her friend into whoring herself for a roof over her head.

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Enough discussion 13 Sep 01:15
45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Kind of reminds me of bride's maid (i forgot the name...) from another author.. fucki'n stings ma heart...

Yeah, few things are as painful as having to be there and witness your life's love make their vows to someone else right in front of you, knowing you have to wish them well and how wrong it is that it's gutting you on the inside to do it.

last edited at Sep 13, 2018 1:18AM

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

I just found that two more chapters have been translated.

I know there's a special procedure to message the admins and ask them to bring here the new stuff, but I dunno how it works (I'm kind of a noob in this forum). So perhaps some of you could do it in my place?

Chapter 3 was especially shocking: there's an enormous surprise at the end, one that I wasn't expecting at all. If you wanna be spoiled...
We find that Coco isn't really the innocent little angel she pretends to be. She actually is aware of Minori's crazy crush on her, and she loves it. What's more, she seems to be more or less aware that Yuu is her rival in love, tee hee.

There isn't much that truly makes me laugh but this did. This manga has a rather wicked sense of humor to say the least.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

I recently subscribed to several multi-chapter ongoing series, but it doesn't seem to do anything at all. There are no notifications etc. when a new chapter comes out. Is subscribing supposed to do something?

Edit: Never mind. I am an imbecile. I was subscribing to individual chapters rather than the series as a whole.

last edited at Sep 12, 2018 6:31AM

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Looks like somebody mixed huffing glue and the internet again. Come on people. Surely we should know better by now that these two drugs don't combine well.

Cute illustration.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Happy Ending is the perfect example of horseshit. I hate whoever made that garbage after reading it. Serious waste of time. As being an only yuri reader (sometimes yaoi if theres nothing else tho that gets boring) I've only read the yuri chapter in this manga. Yeah it broke my heart for her (likely) unrequited love for her friend but it also definitely inspired me, no matter how many times I've seen the same formulas with yuri, it just never gets old for me. That's why I can already tell this manga will be pure shit if it does without yuri. I don't think I've ever read a het manga fully and yet I find it so predictable and dull. The only genre that truly perfects a manga is yuri, yuri action, yuri drama, yuri horror, etc. without the yuri what's the point? After reading and searching for as much as I can, it's hard not to feel strongly about it. Yuri FTW always and forever.

Tired of the same old yuri formula? It sounds like you should read "Her Joy." Also "White Angels Have No Wings" is rather unconventional yuri.

Back to the topic at hand. So why the lack of Yuri Crush tags? I mean the crush isn't just implied. It's presented as an outright love rivalry in the mind of the MC's best friend and it's brought up pretty much every single time the MC's friend has any sort of face time in the story which is often.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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I think "Psuedo-Incest" is about as concise a term as we are going to get as far as conveying the desired meaning. I think pretty much anyone who reads it will immediately get what it means which is sexual relations between family members that are not blood related.

Where as "not incest" really is a far less clear term even if it is technically more grammatically correct.

Oh no, it's not about what's more grammatically correct. It's for the sake of the joke, like how salamanders are tagged as "Not lizard" here.

D'oh! Poe's law.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

I read all the comments here, and I still don't understand the ending...

To put it simply her tutor is a lesbian child molester who goes around pretending to be a tutor in order to find fresh girls to commit statutory rape with. Since she only likes young girls, she is disgusted with the fact one of her prior victims has come back and found her as an adult and tried to re-initiate a romance with her.

The young innocent girl aka the unripe fruit has since matured, ripened and rotted in her eyes and she no longer wants it. Sensei is not a good person.

last edited at Sep 11, 2018 11:34AM

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Oh my goodness me. This is one of the most wonderful things I have ever read. And now I have to wait for god-knows-how-long for maybw the final chapter...? My heart can't handle it. This manga has made me feel so happy.

Um, I think the manga is coming to its end. The next chapter is in October, I feel probably like last 3 chapters to end? Now just resolution on their relationship.
Doubt the author will go on showing their lovey dovey life afterwards unfortunately. :(

Note to self: Stock up on pitch forks and torches to hand to the angry mob when asakura89's jinx comes true.

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Liberty discussion 10 Sep 18:00
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I've wanted to like this, I really have. And I try not to be overly-judgmental about characters until I see how things (mostly) play out.

But Liz's "mysterious" aura just turns out to be a cover for an abusive, self-dramatizing user, and I guess the MC is supposed to be sweet and understanding, but that's not the same as being a willing doormat.

And I'm hoping that "let me know if you want to be slapped" line was supposed to come off differently than it actually sounds.

It was, I believe, self deprecating humor.

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Mousou Envy discussion 09 Sep 19:27
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This is the best kind of Naoko Kodama story, where both of the leads are kinda awful people so that you don't have to feel bad for either of them.

What is awful about MC? Randomly insult a character like that is awful.

It wasn't rape, because senpai had the full autonomy to leave. It wasn't taking advantage of a vulnerable person, because senpai intentionally didn't want to find work and just wanted to mooch off people. If anything, the request for sex was a fair AND admirable decision. Admirable because MC wasn't a doormat that let people step all over her without doing anything about it, but she wasn't nasty about it either. Truly awful people would have pretended to be nice and selfless on the surface then talked behind the other's back in contempt.

Basically the MC told her friend "Be my whore or be homeless." Sure that's the sort of noble thing all nice, balanced and morally upstanding individuals do to their best friends and love interests. I'm not saying I hate the MC or anything, but saying she did nothing wrong is hilarious. She is actually probably the more morally stained of the two characters. The other one is just a lazy free loader.

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Beautifully done, this one remains an old favorite of mine. This really is a good tragedy (kind of an oxymoron here..) although the art could have been nicer, the story itself really is beautiful.

On a side note, I find the supernatural tag quite unfitting here, I'd suggest to replace it with the alternate reality one.

I agree that the alternate reality tag is fitting, but I don't see why it should replace supernatural. They are not mutually exclusive and both tags describe different elements of this manga. The whole afterlife thing is definitely supernatural.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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I think "Psuedo-Incest" is about as concise a term as we are going to get as far as conveying the desired meaning. I think pretty much anyone who reads it will immediately get what it means which is sexual relations between family members that are not blood related.

Where as "not incest" really is a far less clear term even if it is technically more grammatically correct.

45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
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Thanks. =)

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1 x ½ discussion 06 Sep 01:43
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I curse the internet for making me growing more immune to weird shits. I honestly think it is gross mother x daughter, but now it has simmered down more than before. I still don't like it, but I keep clicking next!

Just admit that you're into it. You can't possible hate it if you've stuck around this long.

Gotta keep up those tsundere credentials, yo.

I-it-it's not like I like to read it or anything b-ba-baka

Just a classic case of this honestly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otAzSKWQt14

You know I was going to complain about the damn incest thing, but I've read every last page of this story so I don't think I am allowed to complain anymore.

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45b4e36d555ca184502130f8249354c2--flcl-furi-kuri2
joined Jul 19, 2018

Awww, crazy people need love too.