I myself get the impression that someone had read a lot of attenuated manga plots and decided, “Fuck that—here’s how things ought to go . . . .”

Seriously, this reads like a fix-fic of every melodramatic and convoluted yuri manga combined and I love it.

This is kind of a hectic mess that I simply can't be bothered to try to parse plus there's the slur issue on top of that.

Also :

DID YOU JUST ASSUMED THEIR GENDER ??
Sorry, had to do it.

No you didn't and I wish you hadn't.

I don't get why the position of "stories that only have gay subtext should be tagged as subtext" always gets so much pushback here. Like, what's the point of tags if nobody is going to tag things accurately.

Probably because different people interpret things differently. I think this story was quite overt about their romantic interest, so there can be an argument for why its not just subtext.

Even if it wasn't, certain people express that opinion in overly aggressive ways, so the pushback is probably more related to such outbursts against the author, the readers and the mods. The author wrote a story that is arguably subtext... so what? It's not a personal insult and doesn't devalue the story. But most of the "This isn't yuri!" crowd takes it very personally and lashes out at the world at large.

I mean I can understand seeing as I too am pretty damn exhausted with this site's arbitrary tagging policies. The subtext thing is irritating enough but it's even worse when mods actively resist tagging emotionally jarring content to "preserve a twist." Like, hey edgelord maybe I didn't want to read a super fucked up story and your desire for shock value is wildly inconsiderate and defeats half the point of tagging shit. This isn't a psychological thriller archive it's a gay romance site.

I don't get why the position of "stories that only have gay subtext should be tagged as subtext" always gets so much pushback here. Like, what's the point of tags if nobody is going to tag things accurately.

I'm pretty baffled as to why anyone is surprised by this development. Like did you really think this super light-hearted and soft love story was suddenly gonna become a grim revenge story where a literal child is destroyed and we delve in depth into the ramifications of bullying? Of course Tadokoro forgave her it's the obvious in character thing for her to do regardless of how you may feel about how deserved it is.

Yeah but it didn't have to happen in the spam of 4 pages tho

Pretty much the entire tone of this series has been rapid-fire development over the span of 4 pages. Did you really think this story was going to suddenly arbitrarily put the brakes on its madcap pacing because the bully's redemption arc deserves more in depth development then the actual romance has gotten? If anything I'm glad we just zipped through it because I really didn't want to waste a bunch of chapters on bully drama in a fluffy romance series.

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I'm pretty baffled as to why anyone is surprised by this development. Like did you really think this super light-hearted and soft love story was suddenly gonna become a grim revenge story where a literal child is destroyed and we delve in depth into the ramifications of bullying? Of course Tadokoro forgave her it's the obvious in character thing for her to do regardless of how you may feel about how deserved it is.

Add the ability to instantly inflict crippling remorse to Nikaidou's list of super powers.

Ugh, another manga about how tomboys secretly long to be girly and are being forced into it by peer pressure or some nonsense.

I generally make an exception for this trope in the very specific context of masculine girls in all-girls schools being pigeonholed into the role of surrogate boy because I can empathize with it as a trans woman. I think "tomgirls secretly all want to be feminine" and "girls with naturally masculine features can be self-conscious about expressing their femininity because beauty standards and gender roles are vicious" are two superficially similar concepts but ultimately very different ones.

I gotta agree with people who felt like this was abrupt. Like, generally I feel that if a series ending catches me by surprise it's not a sign of excellent pacing.

Youko kinda just sucks as a person.

The worst thing about this site is that it takes part in April Fools nonsense.

I dont see how its so bad lol. Even if you dont find it funny its just like 1 story chapter a year - id hardly call it a huge negative even IF I too had zero humour.

Because swinging from "Oh cool, a new chapter of a series I like" to "Oh never mind it's a stupid April Fools prank" isn't actually funny it's just annoying. Also "One story chapter a year" is like 10% of this series' releases which is pretty obnoxious.

The worst thing about this site is that it takes part in April Fools nonsense.

In my opinion, it's not great. It's hovering between bad and average and the deformed versions of the characters, with the triangle heads, are horrendous.. They are becoming more frequent also.

When the characters are supposedly talking about serious stuff, the author just defuse the tension with ridiculous faces. And even the serious stuff is sanctimonious.

Akira was actually an interesting take on a transgirl, but she's just a side character.

Yeah, nothing about this has really grabbed me and the preachiness is made extra annoying because half the time what it's preaching is "turn the other cheek" bullshit. I think I'm gonna wait this one out and see if it develops into something more interesting before I invest anymore time into it.

I feel like I'm the only one who isn't feeling these collabs. I mean no hate obviously, just that it doesn't...feel like a Mochi story without her trademark art? Idk.

You're right, it doesn't but I'm burned out on Mochi stories and stopped reading them ages ago so that's a plus for me.

"the norm" is overrated.

That's a sentiment that is often true when it comes to cis/heteronormative societal norms but when it comes to a stance like "sapphic trans women are pretty common" it's actually kind of a shitty (and blatantly false) thing to say.

Statements of preference at the expense of straight trans people are okay but not at the expense of bi or lesbian ones? Lol.

Not what I said at all but go off.

It's really interesting how a different art style manages to majorly affect the tone of the writing for me. Like if this were with Mochi's art I just know it would feel like an inconclusive gag comic rather than something with any depth or feeling (which is why I stopped reading Mochi's works til now).

"the norm" is overrated.

That's a sentiment that is often true when it comes to cis/heteronormative societal norms but when it comes to a stance like "sapphic trans women are pretty common" it's actually kind of a shitty (and blatantly false) thing to say.

I don't have an issue with text-only stories being here but I still think that this reader is an odd choice of format to present them in.

This manga is like the world's softest most g-rated exploration of kink.

I'd be a lot more upset about Akira being a glorified supporting character in her own coming out story if she wasn't so incredibly uninteresting. At least Hime has a personality.

I think that's the huge oversight a bunch of people are making about this story. This isn't Akira's coming out story. This is the story of Hime's confusing and angst ridden first love.

Think about it. The story always follows Hime's point of view rather than Akira's. Whenever we are privy to the character's internal thoughts or memories it's Hime's that we see. When the two split up the story then follows Hime rather than Akira. This never really was Akira's story to begin with. As the MC's love interest she is basically the second most important character in the story, but she was never intended to be the protagonist and people should stop trying to treat her as such.

Just because Akira happens to be transgender it doesn't automatically make her the MC.

I meant more that this is yet another story where a trans person's coming out/transition features centrally that's more concerned with how this affects the cis people in their life than about their own experience. Yes, clearly Akira's perspective is not important to this narrative but that's kinda the issue: trans people's experiences are rarely important to the narrative either in stories centered around them or in their own lives. It's not "Akira happens to be transgender so she should automatically be the MC" it's "Akira is transgender and this entire story pivots around that fact and it'd be nice if stories like that actually had a trans MC for once."

I'd be a lot more upset about Akira being a glorified supporting character in her own coming out story if she wasn't so incredibly uninteresting. At least Hime has a personality.

I'm getting whiplash from how fast this chapter threw around conflicting romance flags.

Admittedly I didn't read every het transgirl manga there is, but, focusing on the "real" transgender manga, not the magical ones, even though most of them are transgender metaphors (like Bra Girl, Boku Girl, Kanojo ni Haru ni...), nor the crossdressing or trap ones...

List of transgirls lesbians in manga :
- Nicoichi

Did Nicoichi change dramatically after the point where it stopped getting translated because as far as I remember the protag was definitely a cis dude who cross-dressed due to circumstance.

Well that went entirely as expected.