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joined May 9, 2017

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into her relationship with Adachi.

Agreed but I'd add that...

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into [ nearly every aspect of her life ].

She's one of the most thoughtful MCs I've read and not over simple topics either. Very introspective and questioning. She really wants to define herself at every opportunity and feels uncomfortable when she can't do so. That makes her "slow" because she takes time to think things through first or to wonder about her experiences. That's largely why she gets misunderstood at times.

I do agree and for me that's the biggest selling point of AdaShima. But to be fair, being that thoughtful is not healthy. Instead of living in the present, it almost feels like she is an external character to the story, analysing what is happening. But this is what makes the character unique and what makes me want to see her evolve past that. The spontaneity of Adachi is certainly helping her in that regard.

I don't think there's anything unhealthy about it and she has no real issues in her life that would necessitate a change. Maybe we just use the word "unhealthy" differently. But I agree: her and Adachi definitely do balance each other out for sure.

Unhealthy was a poor choice of word indeed. But to be in a proper relationship she needs to learn to be more spontaneous and to be more in phase with her/other people's feelings. At the current time, she often Cannot react to Adachi's actions because she needs to process them first. Which in a way is good, but it kills the spontaneity and the magic a bit.

joined May 9, 2017

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into her relationship with Adachi.

Agreed but I'd add that...

she's actually a nuanced character that puts a lot of thought into [ nearly every aspect of her life ].

She's one of the most thoughtful MCs I've read and not over simple topics either. Very introspective and questioning. She really wants to define herself at every opportunity and feels uncomfortable when she can't do so. That makes her "slow" because she takes time to think things through first or to wonder about her experiences. That's largely why she gets misunderstood at times.

I do agree and for me that's the biggest selling point of AdaShima. But to be fair, being that thoughtful is not healthy. Instead of living in the present, it almost feels like she is an external character to the story, analysing what is happening. But this is what makes the character unique and what makes me want to see her evolve past that. The spontaneity of Adachi is certainly helping her in that regard.

Aikosaurus
joined May 9, 2017

Honestly, I've seen people hating on both Erika and Koto and being obsessed with convincing other people how horrible people they are. It's indeed not that kind of story, and while I do enjoy the debate and the passionate discussions happening around that title, I can't help but think that people hating so much some flawed but understandable characters must have problem(s) themselves... That much hate is definitely not healthy and and doesn't look good on them...

That being said, a while ago, Kabocha posted a drawing on their Pixiv fanbox, and the comment was interesting.

They said, about Aya, on the drawing:
"The line drawing was posted on twitter previously, and when my editor saw it, he said "the reason she has her hand tucked into her pocket might be because there are so many thing she is hiding". I thought it was a good setting, so I went with it. "

I think so far the story is a bit unbalanced, as we are seeing Aya struggling from her situation, but not really suffering or being traumatized by her situation like Erika and Koto are. She might be hiding something herself, though so far, we have no sign of that.

Can't wait to see what future chapters are holding! The manga was on pause during July, so publication will resume next week. The schedule also changed, as Kabocha was mentally drained, so it will be 2/3 of a chapter per month (instead of one chapter per month). Slower progress, but as long as they stay healthy, I'm happy with that.

Aikosaurus
joined May 9, 2017

This chapter felt a bit redundant? Sure, Nekomori backstory was a bit expanded but I think we got the gist of it already, and the rest of the chapter is just her overhearing the argument that alreaedy started in previous chapters :P

I agree. Knowing this is the last volume and that the ending is a bit rushed (not bad just rushed), I'm a bit sad a better editor wasn't able to do a better job guiding the mangaka through the last chapters.

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Mitsuki is definitely super cool in this chapter and I'm glad she is able to show her real self in public, but I'm a bit upset as well that she doesn't let Aya knows that she's fine. Aya have probably been worried sick, to the point were she wonder if she did well getting angry and yet she is being completely let down by Mitsuki.

It's been like that for quite some time already. Aya seems more like a supporting character rather that being part of the main cast and the last panel makes me think she feels that way...

joined May 9, 2017

I would enjoy it way more if one of the MC wasn't looking like an 8 year old kid... I understand that some people look way younger that their real age, but I can't help but feel sickened when it is that extreme.Too bad, the story is entertaining, but I guess I'll start reading the novel instead.

joined May 9, 2017

I don't like when half chapters are released. They feel obviously incomplete (because they are, of course). I'd prefer it if they released a full chapter every two months, or shorter but complete chapters each month.

And before anyone jumps in to say this, I will be reading it every two months regardless, if this continues to be the case. I just think they're ruining the pace and make the series less enjoyable by doing this, so I'm not sure if this is a good call on the publisher's side.

It's a pretty common practice for monthly chapter being released on the internet. The other manga I'm reading that way either have really short chapter or have long chapter being divided into 2/3 parts.

I actually do prefer chapter when they are longer, even if they are being released in multiple parts. It allows for more development because have a story being contained in a few pages can feel suffocating in the long run. The thing is in this case, the cut is way too obvious. Generally speaking, they managed to cut at a place where is does feel more natural. In this case, they could have just cut at the page where Miyagi says "I'll buy you for 5000 yens" and it would have been fine.

joined May 9, 2017

Huh. I think this is the first time I've seen hookah portrayed in manga... Maybe it's not that popular in Japan?
I can confirm such lounges are good for drawn out conversations, both casual and serious

Same never seen hookah in any manga before and I'm just as surprised there aren't people in the comments freaking out about smoking tobacco. I've done it a handful of times in college while it was a fad and I only have fond memories of it while hanging out with friends.

There is quite a few hookah bar in Tokyo as least, but the one I've tried were not really good. Like they do not know how to properly make the tabacco. But I do like it from time to time to hang out with friends in a chill environment. Restaurants can be noisy and and limited in time, while hookah bar tend to be more relax, calm and we can stay much longer.

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Aikosaurus
Frostbite discussion 22 Jul 00:23
joined May 9, 2017

This is a sad story for the main character but at one point, one must also learn to protect themselves... So much red flags, starting by the fact that she already got scammed once by her...

The style is nice, but given how everything is happening so fast, I have trouble getting really engaged by the story. I'll still read the second part though, I'm intrigued by how is the author will conclude it.

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joined May 9, 2017

Please kiss, I can't take it anymore

Neither can they.

joined May 9, 2017

Come on Tsukushi, weren't you naturally gifted at academics etc? You gotta be more confident xd

What? 2025?! Surely you jape

I was memeing about the message at the end of extra chap, but ofc we're still getting the individual chapters in the meantime.
Not sure about possible delays tho with that date in mind

Not sure exactly what happened to Hijiki, but both of her series have been on hold for a few months. This chapter was supposed to be released in April but got delayed until now. Contract sister's new chapter will be published in August, this is also several months without publication. I hope she is ok, and that she is taking care of herself. It's easy to get burn out when working this industry...

joined May 9, 2017

All in all, ShuuKura is probably my favorite yuri story right now. And that's saying something because 95% of what I read is yuri/GL.

I've never met anyone that was only reading yuri (I would guess there are other readers like that here though). It's also the case for me, and it's also the reason I got a decent level of Japanese. It was the only thing that motivated enough to get myself to learn how to read. There are other stuff I'd like to read, but there are so many yuri novel/manga I haven't read yet that I don't feel like starting anything not yuri related.

Also, I find the point about pitying Sendai in the previous post interesting. Honestly, I go through times of frustration with both characters as I read. At this point, though, I think I pity Miyagi far more than Sendai. Sendai has been much too scared about actually defining what she wants their relationship to be to Miyagi, leaving things all on Miyagi, who doesn't know and/or is in denial about how serious she wants the relationship to be. (And even if she did know, she has her self-esteem and abandonment issues to reckon with.) Sendai justifies being cowardly by making assumptions about how Miyagi is going to react, which is just kind of shitty (and maybe even a little manipulative) in my opinion.

That's a a valid point, I never thought of this this way. I guess because Sendai have been more active in the relationship, I was mostly seeing her side, but she does act a bit cowardly in that regard indeed. But it is understandable to an extend.

I would prefer to see Sendai confess though. I think it will be the final blow that makes Miyagi realize her own feeling. I wish she would come to term on her own, but I really think she needs the extra push, and a confession from Sendai could be that (after running away for a few days though, it's Miyagi after all). Maybe the present will make Sendai emotional enough so she will confess out of the blue!

Something I do regret is that they are not talking more honestly with their friends, though. The extra characters, while not being uninteresting, are just there as device plot and doesn't feel real enough to me compare to the main characters. I understand it's not the focus of the story, but that would be nice to have a little extra on that side.

Btw, I wonder how many people noticed that all family names in shuukura are region, prefecture or city of Japan. Miyagi is a prefecture, which capital is Sendai. Utsunomiya is a city. Noto is a region (Noto peninsula, where the big earthquake happened this year …). We don't know the family name of Mio though (or I don't remember), but I bet it will be the same.

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Aikosaurus
joined May 9, 2017

(Also like the horror is well done and presented even better than I'd imagined based on the novel)

I thought it would have been a difficult scene to adapt, as the transition from being physically present to being lost in thoughts can be difficult to represent in drawing, but the mangaka really nailed it once again.

I'd like to comment more about UraPi, especially so it would get more recognition but at the same time, except saying how good the manga is compared to the novel, I don't really know that to say. For me it's definitely, and by far, the best novel adaptation I've ever read.

joined May 9, 2017

Here is my piece about it. Not comparing it to Arioto though. I don't think the comparaison is that interesting, but I do enjoy talking about the novel though.

I started reading the light novel when volume 1 was released in Japan, like a year and half ago and I was really into it (I even talked about it in a thread a year ago). Then, when I finally catched up with the web novel, I really started to lose interest in it. Still do read the weekly release though.

I don't mind the slow burn but here I feel like it's dragged out to the point of stupidity. The relationship is also a bit too unbalanced for my taste, and I started to pity Sendai a while ago, as she has to bottle up her feelings constantly. Miyagi is only conceding the smallest amount of thing just to keep their relationship afloat, to the point where it's becoming ridiculous. Is it kind of toxic in a way. When she finally admitted that they weren't just roommate, it was just to have the stupidest advancement in a relationship ever...

The thing is I understand that she has to come out of her shell and process/address her abandonnement issues. But they never talk about it, and it doesn't even seem the author is planning on having Miyagi process that one way or another. Not really surprising knowing how therapy is almost non existent in Japan, but it's really frustrating. I wish they were also communicating on a deeper level. Most of their interactions are very limited, it's a lot of guessing and stuff not being said, but it's part of the issue Miyagi is having. But after years of knowing each other, I'd wish to see more advancement on that part.

The sexy scenes are well written and I do enjoy (re)reading them, but are so spaced in time that is looks like they aren't at all on the same libido level at all. Not that I want to have more sexy scenes written up, I just would like to see them on the same level. Sendai is always waiting for Miyagi to catch up. She honestly deserves for Miyagi to better herself.

I'm complaining a lot, but I used to be really into it. My reading speed in Japanese is pretty slow and it took me about 7/8 months to catch up on the WN and I felt like my life was really rhythmed by those two characters, it was really enjoyable. I started to lose interest after seeing very little progress, which become even more apparent when I catched up with the WB and started reading the weekly release.

While before I really enjoyed seeing the character evolving and understanding their motivation and each other, now I feel like I'm seeing the author writing the character more than I can feel the characters being real (at least, since around chapter 200). I see them dragging the narrative more than necessary. The reason I feel that way, is because at the beginning, maybe up to around chapter 200, their progression was organic and felt natural. Not it feels like it's being slow down just to drag the slow burn.

I know that with the last chapters we are waiting for Miyagi to do something soon, but depending on what/how it happens, I'll probably stop reading the WN for a while. Maybe reading multiple chapters at the same time will help to feel a better sense of progression.

joined May 9, 2017

They can't adapt the internal rants of a LN in manga form. The format is totally different.

You can have a lot of introspection in a LN, but the heart of manga is dialogues. Too much exposition and tldr; and the manga gets axed.

Sure you can, just look at Otherside Picnic. It's just kinda hard to make internal monologues in a manga not boring when they're not on a situation with more intensity than "this bitch gave me money and won't take it back >:/" lol. Otherside Picnic uses it's monologues to convey the feeling of experiencing alien, otherwise unknowable dramatic situations, like actually getting a girlfriend from Canada instead of having to make one up

Adachi to Shimamura is another good example as well of good internal monologue in a manga.

Understanding those characters from their internal monologue is half the fun of this WN. It's also when characters are being honest (to the extend of the character being honest with themselves though). So missing on that is missing some of the most important parts imo.

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By the way, I also heard that Miyagi's face looks gentler than in the LN. I heard that in the LN, her face is always frowning, like when Sendai licked her feet.

She is always frowning indeed, at least in front of Sendai. Sendai's face looks also too naive. That's why I'm not a fan of the manga style. Not than it's not nice, but it doesn't reflect their personalities properly. U35 got it right though. Their illustrations are on point.

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I'm a big fan of U35's illustrations and definitely not a fan of the manga style. Not that it's bad, but it doesn't fit very well I think. I guess I'll tag along for a while, I might get used to it.

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Thanks for the translation, always so quick!

I've catched a mistake in the last panel though. What the Japanese means is more along that line "somehow, the gap is huge for both of them". Not "in between them".

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This author has drawn many series but still doesn't have an anime. I hope this manga will get an anime (the context of high school students is easier to get an anime than an adult context or office romance, right?).

Looks at Takemiya Jin, Amano Shuninta, among many others
Right. Multiple works but still no anime in sight. It do be sad

I don't think any of Usui's work it worthy of an anime anyway. They are a lot of yuri that are better and more popular that have yet to get an anime adaptation. I also think the rhythm of their manga is way better in writing form.

I have to admit though, I'm try to like their manga, but none of them really clicked to far. I'm not sure what the problem is, but I think all characters are awkward to me. Which is fine when it's one or two characters, but when I feel that way about the whole cast...

Aikosaurus
joined May 9, 2017

Damn, I had no idea a event on Urasekai picnic took place in January, feel a bit bumped out to learn about that now...

Regardless, this one is pretty accurate regarding Sorawo. Was a fun read.

joined May 9, 2017

Does she still let other people touch her girlfriend? I couldn't handle that.

I'm extremely glad Makino doesn't have that kind of possessiveness because it would make for a really awful unpleasant story compared to what we have now and she would absolutely be the wrong partner for Mashiro. How they are now is much better :)

As far as I know, Mashiro is supposed to stop health delivery when she enter university. Makino is fine because it's temporary, I think. We've seen before that she was bothered by it a bit.

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So, I finally decided to read this chapter... Honestly? As much as I hate Ami, Rei is pathetic. Characters like her deserve every single drop of unhappyness and misery the plot sends their way...

Yup, I do feel the same. I just don't like people that have so little self-respect. Sometimes, authors are trying to give those characters some depth and complexity, so you can like them them despite their flows. But in this manga, nothing have been made to make me like the MC, I just find her pathetic and annoying.

In a sense, Ami is a much more interesting character.

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This doesn't have the same impact that it should, the manga can't really describe the emotions all that well...

Well, I haven't read the novel, but I really like the past chapters. Should read it though... But so many good yuri novel to read...

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That ending felt a little rushed. It seemed like a complete 180% without earning it? Like there's a part missing towards the end, almost. (Not talking about the scan job, but the story itself.)

All that is there to say about this oneshot, right at first post.

Indeed. Some people have been able to understand/read more into it than what I was able to, but whether they are right or not, this is bad story telling.

Most of the time, I'm quite impressed by how good those short stories are. I feel like it's a format that have been mastered by a lot of manga artists specialized in yuri (maybe out of necessity, as getting a serialized manga can be pretty difficult) but this one fails to deliver. Well, I guess not every one-shot can be a great one.

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That was nice, but I've never been a big fan when the touching is once sided. But it was nice nonetheless.