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BugDevil
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If there is likely to -be- a season 2, then that'd all be well and good. But you know, when I got interested in yuri anime and started really paying attention to it, you know what I kept seeing over and over?

"It's alright, but it's slow and the ending sucks."

Sasameki Koto. Aoi Hana. Sakura Trick. They all stick pretty solidly to the sequence of events in their respective manga series, and they're all kinda disappointing at the finish line. Yeah, you can go to the manga to get the rest of the story, but many people -don't-, and so they just end up being regarded as kind of disappointing non-events in the long run by many people. A lot of people -won't- check out the manga specifically -because- they found the anime disappointing.

There are various reasons to make an adaptation. One is to appease the existing fans and get money out of them, but another is to reach an audience that wouldn't see the story otherwise. If you're interested in making a work that stands up, that reaches it's own audience, sticking slavishly to the events of the books at the expense of the structure and ending of the adaptation is a mistake.

By contrast: Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid makes some small changes to story order and focuses on a different series of events from the manga. If they had done the manga scene for scene, it would have been cute and funny and I would have enjoyed it, but I wouldn't have had nearly the FEELS that I got when Kobayashi falls into heartbroken single parent mode at the end It easily transcended -and lifted up- the source material explicitly because they -didn't- just stick to the original pattern of events. They structured the season on the assumption that that was all they were getting, and they made something that drew me into a manga that I honestly would have just passed by entirely.

So while I get the desire the fans have to see a faithful and precise adaptation scene by scene and then have a second season that carries us through to the finish line, unless a two-season deal was discussed as likely from the start, I think that'd be a mistake. The -entire structure of the season- is about building up to the play. If we never get there, most people aren't going to get to the end, and go 'Oh, I guess I'll read the manga now,' They're going to go 'What? We don't even get to see the play? How diappointing.'

And then they'll go watch Citrus or something.

So much wrong, so little time...

First of all what you describe has nothing to do with Yuri. Period. All genres have these adaptation "issues" you speak of.
Secondly, no that is not why these adaptations are made. Sure, there might be 2 or 3 of those out there, but that's never the point and never will be the point of these kinds of anime adaptations. They exist as promotion for the manga, nothing else. You will have to accept this. Far more people start to read the manga because the anime ended on a cliffhanger, rather than being put off by it. If the anime has a completely satisfying ending, then that will undoubtedly lead to less people checking out the manga, that's simple psychology, but that doesn't mean the anime has to be bad for it. Taking your original route or ending is ballsy and turns out terrible 90% of the time. So forgive me if I don't have any love for that approach.

Kobayashi might have changed the order a bit, but it didn't change the events. And more importantly Kobayashi doesn't have a rigid story structure. It is very slice-of-life allowing for easy interchanging. Yagate Kimi ni Naru is not like that in the slightest.
Also, they blew up an event that was not quite as dramatic to make it a finale, but why is that better than what we could have gotten instead? There are quite a few emotional moments in the manga that could have served as great finales as well. Sorry, but you are just saying "I liked that, so it was the best move" lol

That's your very self-centered presumption, sorry to say. Again, it works, that is why the studios do it. People do want to know what happens next, especially if the anime was interesting, which is more guaranteed if they actually stick to the same quality as the source material.
The story builds up to the play, but there are several levels of subplots involved and ultimately the play is just a means to an end. The emotional weight of Yuu's decision can carry the finale easily. I want to see the shallow audience that would not be interested to read the manga after that scene. If they exist, then they can pray for a second season and if they don't get it and still dont want to read the manga, they didn't care enough anyway.

last edited at Nov 17, 2018 5:14PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I'm surprised nobody has commented on that scene in the movies where Kasumi made the initiative to grab Sakarako's hand. It's one of the only times we have ever seen Kasumi instigate physical affection. Usually it's Sakurako who is all over Kasumi. It's cute that Kasumi has started reciprocating.

It even looked like she was a bit annoyed that Sakurako wouldn't do it on her own lol
Also she kept watching her instead of the movie~

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joined Aug 26, 2018

I'm trying to make a post under "Bloom into You discussion" but it says it is detecting it as spam and it says to contact dynasty scans if you think the detection is wrong. I've been looking around and I can't find any contact info though, does anyone know where to find it?

My best advice would be to PM one of the mods. They ought to know the site best.

last edited at Nov 17, 2018 4:13AM

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Eivhbyw
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OT3

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^"SSSS.Gridman." It's in the tags you know?

BugDevil
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It's okay to love her, just don't overestimate her because of that.

There will be a second important confession soon, only this time it's the other way around haha

Stretched out, really? It was like 3 seconds. That scene was incredibly quick actually, especially compared to the train kiss from episode 2 lol

hahahaha! Well, if you count their feet shot... it's a tad bit longer... but, in all fairness, I re-watched the episode and it wasn't as long as I remembered. lol

I can't help but to overestimate Sayaka. Where's her flaw? (Other than loving Touko.) She isn't the conventional antagonist, but I think we can say that we are afraid of her next step.

Guess perception may vary, especially when you see it coming.

Her flaws, eh? She doesn't pick up on things fast enough or stays passive when she shouldn't. She gets jealous and then feels guilty about it. She supported Touko's facade, even though that might have been detrimental to her (even if it is what she "wanted to do"). Yuu figured the right solution out in a way shorter time after all. Their degree of closeness might not be comparable though.
Other than that, she is said not to remember things she doesn't have an interest in, which is generally rude when it involves people. lol
She also fronts really hard.

Well those are just minor issues and usually have a good-natured core. I think she deserves happiness more than even some other characters here~

I don't see Sayaka as an antagonist and I am not afraid of what she will do. Her next action will push the situation forward, one way or another. The one who will get hurt the most (once again) is her anyway.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Yep... Let it be known... I love Sayaka!!

Sayaka may not be approachable. Where as, Touko is and that's why she gets all the confessions. But, you're right, I don't think that history has any bearing on the main story. Only one confession from Sayaka's past is important.

Oh, and the kiss between Riko and Miyako was stretched out a bit in the anime.

It's okay to love her, just don't overestimate her because of that.

There will be a second important confession soon, only this time it's the other way around haha

Stretched out, really? It was like 3 seconds. That scene was incredibly quick actually, especially compared to the train kiss from episode 2 lol

last edited at Nov 16, 2018 1:48PM

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Image Comments 16 Nov 13:44
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Momokiss

^she is an unsocial person who has a tough time making friends or opening up (as revealed in later chapters concerning her love for music and instruments). Basically she is just awkward with everyone.

BugDevil
Image Comments 16 Nov 04:46
Eivhbyw
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Tmcpuod

^Why is that surprising to you?

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BugDevil posted:

BugDevil posted:

I dunno how it got to naming favorite Greek deities, but alright. Hermes is one swell dude.

Because instead of platonic, johnb wrote plutonic and they went from there.

Yeah I noticed. I was just wondering how one would make that mistake...

It seems to be common misspelling.

I guess there is some overlap between the two philosophers Plato and Plutocrat. Platonic comes from the former.

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
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Of course it is. Mint and chocolate is superior.

Vanilla being the best flavor out there is a hill worth dying on for me, but I would make a concession towards Straciatella, which is vanilla with some choco pieces strewn in there.

BugDevil
Image Comments 16 Nov 03:52
Eivhbyw
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Dr15namu4aa5ecu-orig

^There is no real yuri focus right now, it's basically just a tribute to Toho monster and giant robot fighting shows. And yes, it's incredibly entertaining.

BugDevil
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Good job Nemo, you played yourself

BugDevil
Image Comments 16 Nov 03:46
Eivhbyw
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Jock

Ah the "You are dumb and I am dumb too because I love you" phase. Surprisingly common.

BugDevil
Image Comments 16 Nov 03:44
Eivhbyw
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Momokiss

It's not like the animation team pairs them up, that's literally how they are in the manga too.
But yeah it's less than subtext. There is more chemistry between Jiro and Kaminari than this.

last edited at Nov 16, 2018 3:44AM

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Hand scissoring... the depravity knows no bounds!

BugDevil
Image Comments 16 Nov 03:40
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So these were the kinds of pictures Kase-san wanted to take in the last chapter...

BugDevil
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Eivhbyw
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This is a diss towards libraries and I'm offended on behalf of all librarians.
Still cute tho

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AGILITY 100

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Nanananananana Niceman!

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Image Comments 16 Nov 03:35
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This pairing has two songs already. Might as well be canon (to Jeff Williams)

BugDevil
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Tmcpuod

It's kinda like lesbian bars, just for underage girls

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
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The next episode will include Sayaka's "coming out"... so to speak (according to YagaKimi tweet).. I wonder if they'll include how many confessions that she's turned down since she's been at this school... I mean, she's apparently just as hot as Touko and just as smart if not smarter... It seems she doesn't really need to try. In fact, I find her perfect. Which, probably the reason the whole school ships these two even if it's for fun.

Hm? I don't remember that being addressed in the manga. I wouldn't find it out of the ordinary, but was it ever addressed that Sayaka also got lots of confessions? I somehow doubt it. If the anime were to add that, it would kind of interfere with her character arc anyway.

You seem to idolize Sayaka a bit there. Sayaka is being presented as very studious, yet she still always loses to Touko, so she is definitely not smarter. And how many characters have actually complimented her on being hot or pretty aside from Doujima who thinks any girl that looks his way is a 10? lol

EDIT: To be honest, by this point, I actually HOPE timezone difference is the reason why I'm not getting replies, cuz I'd really be mad (mostly at myself, but, to a lesser extent, y'all too) if it's the case that you read my comment, roll your eyes, forget about it and then wait until the next day to start a new sub-topic.

That's fine, go ahead and be a little mad. Getting worked up is good for your complexion.

last edited at Nov 15, 2018 5:18PM

BugDevil
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joined Aug 26, 2018

It seems build up and pacing towards a relationship are dead in this short attention span society.
Or I just wanted to say something pretentious. Not gonna flip that coin~

last edited at Nov 15, 2018 5:12PM

BugDevil
Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

That was some high level manipulation on Kasumi's part there, completely exploiting Sakurako's affection.
She must have read that psychology book more than we could see.

Aw, even Hinako acknowledges that it's mutual. The "which one are you jealous of" comment was pretty nice too~