Spin-offs I'd like to see:

Midori and Manaka hooking up

Don't care about the rest :v

You. I like you.

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Spinoffs I'd like to see.... Koyomi's introspections

I knew I forgot something. Squeeze that somewhere between #4 and #5.

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The art of subtlety is lost on some people.

There are those who will never be satisfied unless Sakurako and Kasumi sit down and talk about the nature of their relationship, which is something these two will never do because that messes with their characters and the over all flow of the story.

Funny you would mention that. They kinda did do that last chapter. Not in-depth or anything, but the result only lead to more confusion for some.

BugDevil posted:

It's also not our problem that the characters are dislikable. Or that they don't end up together. Or that a story is badly written or executed. Do you even need to read a story if you can't care about its aspects anymore?

You know that is a terrible argument.

Good thing all of those are facts and not opinions.

They end up together in most of her works. I enjoyed quite a bit of her works. I appreciated that she is capable of drawing something different than everyone else, giving us some variety. You don't need to like it, but there are plenty people who do. Also she is more than capable of drawing cute, fluffy stories. She just usually prefer writing about trash people, since it's her fetish.

I was just giving examples of how far you can take that nonsensical argument. I didn't actually think all her characters are dislikable or badly written. The phrase "it's none of your concern/not your problem" is just really bad in this context.

I don't like her fetish, but I think that's the normal stance here. I'll always gladly read her conventional works.

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When did they start dating? I swear I´ve missed something XD
Are their kisses deleted scenes?

I feel like this love is still in the platonic stages, or the author maybe doesn’t think it’s necessary to depict kisses or anything sexual to prove it. I kinda appreciate the subtlety of it.

Except they literally kissed several times already.
I feel like people posting this stuff didn't actually read the manga. They come back after a long time and just read the most recent chapter and say "Wtf when did they start dating?"

That kinda happens when you skip stuff.

I thought Kasumi was kidding around when she said she wanted to be Saku's pet, but a simple pair of cat ears can shed new perspective on things. Now we only need her to meow...

People are unfair to Kodama Naoko. She likes soap opera-like plots, torturing her characters, or some of her characters are purposely dis-likable, okay.

But most of her works (if not all?) end up with the yuri couple in a relationship. That it's not necessarily a healthy one isn't your problem.

It's also not our problem that the characters are dislikable. Or that they don't end up together. Or that a story is badly written or executed. Do you even need to read a story if you can't care about its aspects anymore?

You know that is a terrible argument.

Primalyossi gets a temp one day ban for instant rudeness after their last ban, but yeah BugDevil, quit it. Tone it down please.

Aye aye Captain.

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So what are you doing in cat cafes if you don't eat or drink?

Cuddle with cats and chill. It's worth the entry fee to some, don't judge.

Cat cafes are great. So comfortable. Just don't eat or drink there, because you will be coughing cat hair for days.
I'll never get tired of the "You can't eat that" jokes. lol

At least in the most recent chapter we saw a side of Maki that's different. He actually showed some regret towards being aroace, where before he seemd 100% contend. If he wasn't such a minor character I am sure Nakatani would probably explore it some more.

To use a slightly altered version of a Bill Wurtz meme:
You can make a spin-off out of this.

Let's not go crazy here. This is the the exact order of relevance of necessary spin-offs here:
1. Midori x Manaka spin-off
2. Sayaka spin-off
3. Riko x Miyako spin-off
4. Cooking spin-off "Rei's cheesecake patisserie"
5. Doujima romcom (with Doujima constantly failing to get a GF and crying to Maki about it)
6. Maki spin-off

This list is not debatable.

Innocent teacher being pursued by an aggressive student. Perfect. I wouldn't want it any other way.
Now if sensei was in her early twenties or something instead it would be even better.

Bottling up this atom bomb of hormones and feelings will result in the most mindblowing graduation ceremony of all time.

Welp that was a twist. So she just really liked gay skinship.
" You think I am your girlfriend!"
Should have replied "Oh I didn't know that, thanks for telling me."

These dorks are made for each other. What a nice indirect confession.

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I definitely agree, but I feel in the minority when it comes to Maki. Most people seem to like him but I see him as a creep and as a clear plot device whose entire character is "I am asexual and I like watching others' romances". He is definitely not a bad person, he is a nice guy but yeah. Having an asexual character here would have been much better if his character wasn't reduced to just that, since I believe showing different sexual orientations in this manga is nice and fresh when compared to other yuri manga.

At least in the most recent chapter we saw a side of Maki that's different. He actually showed some regret towards being aroace, where before he seemd 100% contend. If he wasn't such a minor character I am sure Nakatani would probably explore it some more.

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Also, just to be clear, the heroine in Villainess doesn't end up in the game as such. She ends up in a "real" world that's like the game.

My initial reaction was "That's basically the same thing", but upon further contemplations I realize it's not. Making it a real world takes away the issues of "programming" and "scripts". So people can actually change and alter their predetermined path.Guess that was the right move.

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@Firefly Fanatic

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^Well tomboys don't have to look masculine, but I catch your drift.

I couldn't read all that text

I'm sure they will release a picture book version for you eventually.

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I personally think the terms significant other or life partners fit them better than dating, but again as I was saying from the start, the entire point of this chapter was that not all relationships fit into silly pre-cut categories or labels nor should they. ~shrug~

That is just semantics tbh. It's the exact same thing in reality.
I personally think the chapter was about how they can't define their relationship, because they think they are many things at once and don't have one umbrella term for it. The problem is that they don't need one. You can be a girlfriend and hugging pillow and a best friend all at once. You don't need to find an overarching term for all of it.

Oh and they never said they aren't dating. That idea came from another user here who assumed that if they don't call each other girlfriends or lovers they don't date.

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I love how the delinquint finally someone who isn't attractive. Nice

Ouch. According to quite a few comments here that seems to be debatable lol

To my understanding Isekai only works if the protagonist is from our world or at least a version or Earth similar to ours. If you go from one fantasy world into another it doesn't count etc.
That's about the only parameter I know of though.

With broad definitions like that Inuyasha was Isekai. As was Digimon.

There's a bunch of yuri isekai. But I can't say I can think of many I'd really recommend. I Favor the Villainess isn't too bad though; it's not harem and it takes homosexuality mostly seriously. It's even translated, although it's just an edited machine translation (and that shows, but, well, it's readable).

I wonder if getting sucked into an Otome game counts as Isekai... The definition is rather broad though.

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BugDevil posted:

Seriously most people would stop being in denial at the "love each other romantically and go on dates" stage.... How do you do it Yukiko-sensei?

Simple. They're playing the longest game of chicken in history. Don't worry. They'll stop once they feel like it got too gay. After being married for like 20 years and popping few kids, probably.

At 90 year old Kasumi's death bed
Kasumi: "Sakurako... before I go... do you love me?"
Sakurako: in tears "Of course Kasumi-chan!"
Kasumi: "Hah. Gaaay...." dies
Sakurako: "Dang it!"
Doctor: "...what?"