That makes sense, thank you for clarifying.

I always chalked this up to be a mangaism, like daughters all wanting to marry their fathers and similar. In yuri, the characters are frequently in denial about liking women at first too. My exposure to other Japanese entertainment media is limited though, so you could be right. This still is more extreme than the vast majority of manga I've seen, which I think is why it got this strong reaction from people. It's on the level of explicitly BDSM works like Yuri SM or some of the less extreme parts of Face You Shouldn't Show, or some of the weird seinen depictions of actual assault. More people can pick up on the less extreme examples in typical works.

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Okay realistically speaking this is still technically rape because “if it’s not a clear yes it’s a no” especially if the other person is obviously expressing how they didn’t wanna do it, but still, the tag has some pretty good stories attached, though some feel WAY more rapey than others.