Hateful love is so delicious

zanpakutoman posted:

With the way this story's been going I feel like the Idiot couple and Lots of kissing tags should be added.

Nah, the idiot_couple tag is for stuff like Kase-san to Yamada or Strawberry Shake Sweet. These 2 may behave idiotically, but they're not an "idiot_couple"

You might have a point with the lots_of_kissing tag, tho....

last edited at Apr 18, 2024 10:03PM

LOL wow Komaki has a crush on Wakaba, not like this isn't obvious now. It's like when drafting it up the author said, "Ok but like what if it was the same troupe where a boy can't figure out how to say they like the girl normally so he teases her to oblivion butttt it was a genius girl and a her former best friend turned rival"

Bro who casually says that kissing that much is to ruin dignity. Do you see her kissing a bunch of other people? No, she's obsessed with you. And to think the first couple chapters had everyone confused lollll

I quite like these two but honestly. I might've preferred a slice of life of their childhoods together. The idea of Wakaba being Komaki's only friend while she consistently challenges her to random bouts would've been very cute if a bit generic.

The current dynamic feels tense in general. It's like Wakaba wants something but the only way she feels she can demand something of Komaki is if she wins against her. I have no idea if Komaki wants Wakaba to submit or to win and knock her down a peg. I for one, am looking forward to where this manga goes, but it might pull some generic shenanigans considering a new challenger approaches

The problem is that it's an adaptation of a WN, so it's verbose and there's a lot of internal dialogue and exposition. But the mangaka can only cram so much.

So we have to follow the line of thought of Wakaba and make sense of it.

The problem is that it's an adaptation of a WN, so it's verbose and there's a lot of internal dialogue and exposition. But the mangaka can only cram so much.

So we have to follow the line of thought of Wakaba and make sense of it.

Yeah that tends to be an issue, a lot of what I really love about Arioto is kind of lost in the manga, it was still fun to see the characters in a manga though!

Have you read this mangas LN? If so how did you feel about it?

Also a little off topic, but have you read the either the Arioto manga or LN? If so I'd love to hear your thoughts.

I'm sorry in advance if these questions are bothersome, I only ask because you scanlate a lot of manga that I really like.

I can't root for any of them really, their personality is so (unexplainable and unreasonably) twisted that it's really impossible to like them or hope they end up together, they're so toxic lol

It's the opposite for me, they're both so twisted and obsessed with each other than I can't not root for them to end up together. Early chapters might have had a tinge of "Wakaba deserves better" but it's entirely gone now.

Hell yeah, now this is what I'm looking for. Delicious.

I can't root for any of them really, their personality is so (unexplainable and unreasonably) twisted that it's really impossible to like them or hope they end up together, they're so toxic lol

It's the opposite for me, they're both so twisted and obsessed with each other than I can't not root for them to end up together. Early chapters might have had a tinge of "Wakaba deserves better" but it's entirely gone now.

They're perfect for each other and Komaki has always known it. She's just been putting in the work to get Wakaba to realize it too. Instead of "realize), I should say "accept it," because Wakaba obviously likes Komaki. Messy but fun.

last edited at Apr 19, 2024 10:05AM

Who is this?

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/how_i_lose_bets_with_my_sadistic_gifted_childhood_friend_and_she_steals_all_of_my_firsts_ch3_2#14

Bitter moon, the yuri manga version

Who is this?

Same girl as here, I believe.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/how_i_lose_bets_with_my_sadistic_gifted_childhood_friend_and_she_steals_all_of_my_firsts_ch2_2

Okay, I'm starting to see why she's like this towards mc

Wakaba's ability to read Komaki's mind games is so well developed, yet she simultaneously doesn't understand what she is thinking at all. It seems all so strange.

For example the exchange:
"What would you do if you had a lover?"
"Probably a sleepover."
"Then I'm looking forward to it."
This can hardly be going over her head, yet somehow it does.

What really stands out in this chapter is how many weaknesses Komaki shows. For someone supposedly so perfect she suddenly appears much more hopeless. She can't handle spicy food, she can't sleep without her specific pillow. It's all contrary to her perfect image. Wakaba even actively compensates for those weaknesses.... Hmm. I think there is a point to that too.

What really stands out in this chapter is how many weaknesses Komaki shows. For someone supposedly so perfect she suddenly appears much more hopeless. She can't handle spicy food, she can't sleep without her specific pillow. It's all contrary to her perfect image. Wakaba even actively compensates for those weaknesses.... Hmm. I think there is a point to that too.

I am still pretty sure Komaki wants to be called out on her bullshit, forcefully. It seems pretty apparent that she hates the way she is and wants to be reined in instead of everyone (including Wakaba) letting her get away with it.
I think subconsciously Wakaba is kinda attuned to that part of Komaki and does deeply care about her friend's self-hate. She's going about it the way she does because she doesn't actually see another way. Just severing ties with her would leave Komaki to suffer, so the only way she sees to break her out of this spiral is eventually beating her.

Outside of the explicit challenges, Wakaba has several times managed to break her composure for a moment, but I'm not even sure she realized that.

Edit: The overall vibe of this one reminds me of Arioto in the best way possible, and speaking of which, apparently Arioto's manga has ended now? On Mangadex, the 15th chapter released two weeks ago is tagged as "end" and the series as "completed". Too bad Me-A didn't do the third volume.

last edited at May 21, 2024 6:06PM

"Komaki do you love me?"
"What if I told you I do?"
"I don't believe it?"

Why even ask then, Wakaba? Wonder how spicy this sleepover will get...

Toxic yuri fans been eating good these past couple days. This manga, Destroy It All and Love Me In Hell, and My Girlfriend's Not Here Today have all released new chapters.

zanpakutoman posted:

With the way this story's been going I feel like the Idiot couple and Lots of kissing tags should be added.

Nah, the idiot_couple tag is for stuff like Kase-san to Yamada or Strawberry Shake Sweet. These 2 may behave idiotically, but they're not an "idiot_couple"

You might have a point with the lots_of_kissing tag, tho....

"She's kissing my stomach and getting jealous when I talk to other girls...if only she didn't hate me!" - Wakaba, an idiot

I’m so confused by this chapter. Komaki said how she feels and then believes she can’t go out with wakaba? Wtf is this bs?

zanpakutoman posted:

With the way this story's been going I feel like the Idiot couple and Lots of kissing tags should be added.

Nah, the idiot_couple tag is for stuff like Kase-san to Yamada or Strawberry Shake Sweet. These 2 may behave idiotically, but they're not an "idiot_couple"

You might have a point with the lots_of_kissing tag, tho....

"She's kissing my stomach and getting jealous when I talk to other girls...if only she didn't hate me!" - Wakaba, an idiot

She's definitely funny. Her friend seems to know Wakaba has some feelings for Komaki. She's known them since they were kids so she might know the game.

The overall vibe of this one reminds me of Arioto in the best way possible, and speaking of which, apparently Arioto's manga has ended now?

It was always set to only cover volume 1 of the LN. The LNs are at about 8 now and the two are still going strong.

last edited at May 21, 2024 6:45PM

Nevermind, she's a psycho, what the heck

zanpakutoman posted:

With the way this story's been going I feel like the Idiot couple and Lots of kissing tags should be added.

Nah, the idiot_couple tag is for stuff like Kase-san to Yamada or Strawberry Shake Sweet. These 2 may behave idiotically, but they're not an "idiot_couple"

You might have a point with the lots_of_kissing tag, tho....

"She's kissing my stomach and getting jealous when I talk to other girls...if only she didn't hate me!" - Wakaba, an idiot

Komaki, as established this chapter, has been awful to wakaba for years. It's much more believable that komaki is just sadistically toying with her

last edited at May 21, 2024 7:22PM

I’m so confused by this chapter. Komaki said how she feels and then believes she can’t go out with wakaba? Wtf is this bs?

Well, the person she wants to go out with appears to be straight (if the tennis club incident is any indication), has told her- directly to her face- that she hates her, only hangs around her because of a weird bet they made, and has said that she wouldn’t believe Komaki if she did confess to having feelings for her. Granted, Wakaba clearly does have something akin to feelings for Komaki boiling beneath the surface, but unless she can read the subconscious mind, I’d say it’s fair for Komaki to assume that she wouldn’t have a shot trying to properly go out with Wakaba.

last edited at May 21, 2024 7:25PM

This is really fun lmao. Like genuinely what a fucked up couple and I can't wait for them to figure things out.

Right, so Umezono spelled it out for her and Wakaba failed to read.

this manga is straight up HOT GARBAGE :fire-emoji: