Now that the arc is translated I would say it was fine, though I can see how if one wants more of the initial formula multiple chapters of this might be disappointing.

Also about the chapter after it: Geez she doesn't even pretend she is "not into yuri" anymore does she? If the translation is correct she outright admits she has a thing for her and that is some heavy fooling around.

Needed a few more chapters to properly do this but still cute and as some said it had some hot kisses.

Now I feel like reading some more poly

I guess the final drama only existed so it feels like an "ending" and not like randomly ending after a slice of life chapter. Not great but not terrible either. Though as usual with subtext stories I would have preferred some development there instead.

I read chapter 5 first and thought "ah so she slowly gets her used to the idea that there is nothing wrong with it, might be cute" and then went back and got lots of aggressive fondling while watching porn.^^ Well guess this is a bit of a sexual fantasy, doubt the author thinks that would actually work. Not worse than a Bodice Ripper I guess. (Though some of the justifications here for why it is okay are a bit creepy to me. No offense. )

This is highly irregular! Main main characters should keep their head at least until the end of the story. Also damn some of the oddman are odder than others.

I say this a lot: you can curl a straight but you can't straighten a curl

I am pretty sure I have straightened my curls (temporarily) before so that doesn't really work.

Updates! I forgot all character names though.

You've gotta be brain dead to agree to a contract like that. Hopefully it isn't as serious as it seems.

It is not like it has any legal power (unless japan has weird laws I guess) but yeah probably a sign to find a new crush.

It´s because of things like this that I´m so glad it´s extremely hard for me to fall in love... It seems like an awful experience...

Personally I find crushing on someone who is not available quite pleasant actually. They are in a relationship so that is that but the crush still enhances how much I enjoy their company which is nice. But yeah if you are the type to be sad if you can't have them I am sure it can suck. (And here the other isn't in a relationship just interested in someone else so she has more hope which might make things worse.)

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Why try to copy the fake cutesy maid cafe stuff isn't the guy running a normal cafe? I don't know how it is in japan but I would be willing to visit a maid cafe (once at least) for the novelty but in a normal one I would find that stuff rather off putting. Well I guess it isn't entirely normal since it has cats, but still.

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That is actually a pretty decent idea for a play.

I read this because of some comments and wow she really cuts through various drama plot.
Love interest is upset:"...you will leave me in the end too...."
MC:*taps her on the head* "stop that or I will really get angry"
LI actually stops.

Since queer identity is only rarely explored in anime and manga, and a character even identifying with the word lesbian is uncommon, I assume you are more dissatisfied with old tropes like "but we're both girls" and the tendency of yuri to focus on conflicts that stem from living in a heteronormative society (e.g. denial of feelings, self-loathing about being in love with another girl), and that a character in the yuri genre should hold more intrigue to her beyond being attracted to another woman.

It's a complicated topic with many sides to it, to be honest. For anime though, given the basically complete lack of simply anything at all lately, I'd be happy with anything ... that's good.

Overall I just like a mix of things. For example, Yoon Ha Lee's Machineries Of Empire features a lesbian heroine but there's no romance at all. It's as relevant as the color of her eyes. In Joseph R Lallo Free-Wrench series nothing about the heroine's preferences are known - until book 5. It's just a minor point in a larger adventure series. In Seth Dickinson's brilliant Baru Cormorant the heroine's homosexuality is a deadly threat and important secret, and the romance leads to quite possible the simultaneously best and worst end in literature ever, but the romance nonetheless doesn't overwrite the heroine's motivations concerning the plot. Ellen Hart's Jane Lawless series features a lesbian heroine in our world and her homosexuality is relevant, but although she's frequently in relationships and they often matter to her, it's all about the mysteries, and the love interests only rarely show up.

And so on.

I mean, even in literature the selection of "good" FF novels is kinda underwhelming. But at least the themes are a bit more varied than "yuri = Girl A meets Girl B, some drama/cuteness happens, The End" (which is fine per se, just not all the time please). Of course, there's some example of stuff trying to do a bit more, like maybe Gamma, but it doesn't happen very often.

Baru Cormant… Even without the title you know the whole book that it will come if you are aware that potentially important meetings in fiction you don't see and don't hear anything about afterwards are bound to be important. But you always hope that maybe it will not.

Anyway about books with lesbian characters that aren't just about them being a lesbian couple there is also Fire logic (and the following books). They are the MCs so their relationship matters but it is a solid fantasy story not a lesbian romance story in a fantasy setting. It is always a bit of a surprise when genre fiction with an lgbt tag is good genre fiction often the quality of the other portion is sacrificed for the romance side. To a lesser degree there is Beauty & Cruelty I guess, it has a decent main plot imo though I have a few issues with their relationship. (Mainly that Cruelty is the evil witch who cursed Beauty and in the beginning it shows unpleasantly in their interactions, she changes during the book of course but still.) I would have to think about it to name more, sadly I never bothered to actually use my lgbt tag on goodreads (at the moment it only contains Humanity for Beginners (werewolves)) which would make remembering so much easier. I guess Jane Fletchers's lyremouth chronicles might barely count. But it is farther to the romance story side than Fire logic for instance. (As you might have noticed I mostly read fantasy books, sometimes scifi too but mostly fantasy.)

For manga I am pulling a blank at the moment. Well I guess what I read from After Hours is more about the rest of their lives than just the romance for instance but definitely yuri genre. But something like a good non slice of life story where the protagonist just happens to be a lesbian? (Not counting Murciélago where it might be a different type of story but her obsession with woman is rather central.)

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zensunni posted:

(I'm still not entirely clear on how becoming a "yes woman" fits with wanting to be by oneself... I guess it is not wanting to stand out as odd and standoffish, like Natsume does, and going to the other extreme? One wonders if the people around her perceive the lack of sincerity?)

It wasn't really clear, but implication is that she in general prefers to be alone, but for some reason felt discomfort when being by herself in classroom full of people, which forced her to interact with people just to endure school time, and somehow along the line she ended up doing favors for everyone, because she tried to be too nice.

That reminds me of spending time with a group of strangers for some purpose and there being downtime and everybody forming groups and chatting. I might not have a strong desire to talk with the people and would rather spend the time reading or something but it would feel awkward to not engage someone in communication because it is expected that I do.

"How do two girls do it, anyway?"

That question in manga always puzzled me. YOU'RE A GIRL, goddammit. Unless you've been really sheltered, you should know better than anyone how to please a girl.

I always assumed it comes from some thinking of anything beside penetration as foreplay.

That certainly was quick. Cute though as someone said this format would quickly get boring. Though you could use it as beginning for a story where it about the actual relationship. Of course you can just start with the relationship already existing but it could be amusing to start it like this.

At this point, this is just me trying to deny the fact that Tsubasa might like guys, or might have gone out with a guy.

Your mind is just tainted by all the manga and doujins you read. These Japanese comic books do often overexaggerate whenever one of their girls is revealed to have an ex, usually by either making the ex an NTR villain or continuously emphasizing that said girl is stained. This causes weebs like us to believe that if a girl have an ex lover (especially if she's not a virgin), said girl is leftover used goods. In reality, there's nothing wrong with an 18 years old girl having dated someone before.

I think I have juuuuust a tad bit more knowledge when it comes to having relationships, and it comes down to preference. You like what you like, I like what I like. Not to say that I think a girl who has had an ex-boyfriend is a hoe, don't twist my words now. Also, just because you are a weeb, doesn't mean that you have no real knowledge of how things work lel.

As a guy, I know how guys are, and trust me, no one likes the thought of a guy's dick.

As a guy having a dick I always found some guys hang ups about thinking of or seeing other dicks (or mal nudity in general) quite weird you have seen your own plenty of times there is nothing shocking about it. (Well luckily that is more prevalent in the USA or at least its media than in my country, cultural differences I guess.) If it is just about thinking about a girl and the penis I don't find that any less weird. (Weird as in I find it weird that it would bother someone.) So, no you don't know how guys are you know how you are and some people you know are. (I just tend to find it annoying when people think just being part of their group x allows them to speak as authority on group x.)

Since I am not reading some older work I know this will most likely end with them together and it will probably go the usual way but I can still hope for it to surprise me and for Mei to have a change of heart and do something instead of placing all initiative for changing it on Yuzu.

Ah so if I understand this right she isn't engaged right now but her family is searching for someone new. Makes sense earlier I wondered whether she already had gotten a new engagement of screen which would have been weird. Denying the match making is hard when a strategic marriage is expected by your family and you care about duty and your grandfather. Plus the reason you are opposed is that you are a lesbian in love with your step sister which is rather awkward to announce.

She talks about it as a gift so I assumed it is not a proposal. Anyway do your proposals in person.

I actually skipped through this chapter because I find the "pretend to be your sister" bullshit annoying and had no patience for it at the moment.

Attempt to attract players for a Mobile Game by developing actual content? Are these people even trying? It's like an unspoken rule of Mobile Games that all marketing is done by asking the artist to design a female character with massive boobs and little clothes, and use her in every single add.

People were writting bullshit online about her game.

With all new content being reskins of old content, you can bet they did.

Then they are far behind cheap flash games! They have discovered that they can make adds with almost nude girls and suggestive lines without them having anything to do with the game!

So it will likely go the triad route. Or troll us by pairing the two and leaving Amane alone, but triad more likely.

Is it really so hard to believe that the completely unamused, flat chested, dead fish eyed girl with a passion for groping (lol @ page 7) could have a secret admirer in love with her, Natsuko? I mean... you out of all people should realise the charm.

By the way, I love the ridiculously one sided way challenges work Japanese anime/manga: "I challenge you in order to get what I want from you, to the type of competition that is my forte, at the time that is the most convenient for me. You're a coward if you don't accept."

Heh yeah, or they don't even wait for an answer and it is just assumed like here. And the MC always just goes along with it no matter how ridiculous.

Well that was quite unfinished.

The fact that there's so much repeated criticism says otherwise.

I don't think that fact shows anything of that kind, but lets leave it at that since I don't think anything interesting would come from continuing

If its not sex I don't consider it friends with benefits but yes I guess they do that much, forgot about that for a moment. that aside I could just describe the story in another way.